MOTM

In a message dated 11/11/2000 4:35:06 PM, reductionengine@... writes:

>Does anybody have plans drawn up for cases? I don't really want to use
>a skb 
>(wood looks much better)

This is an on going topic around here (especially with those flat cabinet 
rails "just around the corner"). I think a diy page on cabinet design, both 
specific (e.g., "I built my cabinet like this...") and general (e.g., "if you 
are going more than two modules just multiply....") would be a great idea. 
Someone with a diy page might collect all the cabinet data (design ideas, 
designing, measuring, cutting, assembling, finishing, etc.) and consolidate 
it. But we might have to wait a couple of months or so until that someone 
deals with the diy MOTM panels.

JB

At the risk of starting a riot... aw hell, I'll just say it.

Does anyone know if Larry Hendry's flat rails will hold MOTM 
modules in Roger's cabinets? I haven't decided yet if it's worth 
$200+shipping per cabinet to save the woodworking trouble... 
I'm much more handy with a parametric EQ than I am with a 
table saw!!

cheers,
- Scott

Well, the height is correct but the width will cause some issues or gaps.  If you
are willing to have a gap on the ends, you can fit 26U of modules.  I built a "Moog
sized" cabinet but made the sides a bit thinner to accomidate 27U of modules.  See
the files area for the diagrams/pics.

I don't know exactly how Roger does the lip of the cabinet but I know there aren't
any rails.  He just uses screws into the wood.  So, I don't know exactly how the fit
and finish for the MOTM modules may be.  The face plates will probably stick out
just a bit because of the flat rails.

I guess it all depends on your view of cost vs. time vs. appearance.

   Eric

--- scott.gibbons@... wrote:
> At the risk of starting a riot... aw hell, I'll just say it.
> 
> Does anyone know if Larry Hendry's flat rails will hold MOTM 
> modules in Roger's cabinets? I haven't decided yet if it's worth 
> $200+shipping per cabinet to save the woodworking trouble... 
> I'm much more handy with a parametric EQ than I am with a 
> table saw!!
> 
> cheers,
> - Scott
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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> 
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OK,   I will tell you what I know.
1.  I mailed a rail to Paul just for testing this very feature.
    He apparently has a synth.com cabinet.  Paul ?  Verdict?

2.  According to the specifications on the synth.com cabinet you would have
exactly 3/4 inch gap on each side.  JUST the right size to be filled with a
MOTM end cap.  <how about that>  And, the end cap hole will even line up
with the threaded hole in the flat rail.  However, be aware that:

A - the end caps will be on the opposite side.  So, don't get a logo cap.
It will be upside down.
B- You will have to cut off the end rail on each end top and bottom (that is
4 cuts through 1/8" x 1/2" steel)  Not a problem, but you will need a nice
hack saw and some elbow grease.

Bottom line is I think it will work, but I cannot prove it.  Someone ship me
a .com cabinet and I will let you know <snicker>
Larry Hendry

----- Original Message -----
From: alt-mode <alt_mode@...>
To: <scott.gibbons@...>; <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] cabinets


Well, the height is correct but the width will cause some issues or gaps.
If you
are willing to have a gap on the ends, you can fit 26U of modules.  I built
a "Moog
sized" cabinet but made the sides a bit thinner to accomidate 27U of
modules.  See
the files area for the diagrams/pics.

I don't know exactly how Roger does the lip of the cabinet but I know there
aren't
any rails.  He just uses screws into the wood.  So, I don't know exactly how
the fit
and finish for the MOTM modules may be.  The face plates will probably stick
out
just a bit because of the flat rails.

I guess it all depends on your view of cost vs. time vs. appearance.

   Eric

--- scott.gibbons@... wrote:
> At the risk of starting a riot... aw hell, I'll just say it.
>
> Does anyone know if Larry Hendry's flat rails will hold MOTM
> modules in Roger's cabinets? I haven't decided yet if it's worth
> $200+shipping per cabinet to save the woodworking trouble...
> I'm much more handy with a parametric EQ than I am with a
> table saw!!
>
> cheers,
> - Scott
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


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I calculate a Synthesizers.com cabinet to be 46.75 inches across (22 x
2.125).  26 spaces of MOTM modules is 45.5 inches (26 x 1.75), so the
actual gap would be 1.25 inches, not 1.5 inches.  A gap filler for this
would be nice.

The solid oak used for the .com rails should last several dozens of
thread cycles, long enough to determine if you need flat rails or not.  

John Loffink
microtonal@...

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:08 PM
To: scott.gibbons@...; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [motm] cabinets

OK,   I will tell you what I know.
1.  I mailed a rail to Paul just for testing this very feature.
    He apparently has a synth.com cabinet.  Paul ?  Verdict?

2.  According to the specifications on the synth.com cabinet you would
have
exactly 3/4 inch gap on each side.  JUST the right size to be filled
with a
MOTM end cap.  <how about that>  And, the end cap hole will even line up
with the threaded hole in the flat rail.  However, be aware that:

A - the end caps will be on the opposite side.  So, don't get a logo
cap.
It will be upside down.
B- You will have to cut off the end rail on each end top and bottom
(that is
4 cuts through 1/8" x 1/2" steel)  Not a problem, but you will need a
nice
hack saw and some elbow grease.

Bottom line is I think it will work, but I cannot prove it.  Someone
ship me
a .com cabinet and I will let you know <snicker>
Larry Hendry

----- Original Message -----
From: alt-mode <alt_mode@...>
To: <scott.gibbons@...>; <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] cabinets


Well, the height is correct but the width will cause some issues or
gaps.
If you
are willing to have a gap on the ends, you can fit 26U of modules.  I
built
a "Moog
sized" cabinet but made the sides a bit thinner to accomidate 27U of
modules.  See
the files area for the diagrams/pics.

I don't know exactly how Roger does the lip of the cabinet but I know
there
aren't
any rails.  He just uses screws into the wood.  So, I don't know exactly
how
the fit
and finish for the MOTM modules may be.  The face plates will probably
stick
out
just a bit because of the flat rails.

I guess it all depends on your view of cost vs. time vs. appearance.

   Eric

--- scott.gibbons@... wrote:
> At the risk of starting a riot... aw hell, I'll just say it.
>
> Does anyone know if Larry Hendry's flat rails will hold MOTM
> modules in Roger's cabinets? I haven't decided yet if it's worth
> $200+shipping per cabinet to save the woodworking trouble...
> I'm much more handy with a parametric EQ than I am with a
> table saw!!
>
> cheers,
> - Scott
>
>
>
>
>
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
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The inside dimension of a real Moog cabinet is 46.75".

   Eric

--- "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@...> wrote:
> John, I somehow thought the inside dimension was 47"
> I'll have to find out where I got that crazy idea.
> Paul S.  ??  Got a tape measure?
> Larry H
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Loffink <microtonal@...>
> To: 'J. Larry Hendry' <jlarryh@...>; <scott.gibbons@...>;
> <motm@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [motm] cabinets
> 
> 
> I calculate a Synthesizers.com cabinet to be 46.75 inches across (22 x
> 2.125).  26 spaces of MOTM modules is 45.5 inches (26 x 1.75), so the
> actual gap would be 1.25 inches, not 1.5 inches.  A gap filler for this
> would be nice.
> 
> The solid oak used for the .com rails should last several dozens of
> thread cycles, long enough to determine if you need flat rails or not.
> 
> John Loffink
> microtonal@...
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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> 
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John, I somehow thought the inside dimension was 47"
I'll have to find out where I got that crazy idea.
Paul S.  ??  Got a tape measure?
Larry H

----- Original Message -----
From: John Loffink <microtonal@...>
To: 'J. Larry Hendry' <jlarryh@...>; <scott.gibbons@...>;
<motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:21 PM
Subject: RE: [motm] cabinets


I calculate a Synthesizers.com cabinet to be 46.75 inches across (22 x
2.125).  26 spaces of MOTM modules is 45.5 inches (26 x 1.75), so the
actual gap would be 1.25 inches, not 1.5 inches.  A gap filler for this
would be nice.

The solid oak used for the .com rails should last several dozens of
thread cycles, long enough to determine if you need flat rails or not.

John Loffink
microtonal@...