Minimoog aux socket pinout?
1999-06-18 by Dave Bradley
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1999-06-18 by Dave Bradley
I've disassembled the Moog ribbon controller I recently posted about. I'm having a little trouble figuring out the pinouts for everything. One of its connectors is a 6 pin Jones plug that plugged directly into an auxillary power socket in the back of a Minimoog. Does anyone have a Mini schematic that can determine the voltages and signals present on this connector? Help resurrect the ribbon! Dave Bradley Principal Software Engineer Engineering Animation, Inc. daveb@...
1999-06-18 by Paul Schreiber
Seems to be: #1 +10V #2 ground #3 -10V rest are NC Get DVM and verify Paul S. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Bradley <daveb@...> To: MOTM List <motm@onelist.com> Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 3:42 PM
Subject: [motm] Minimoog aux socket pinout? >From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...> > >I've disassembled the Moog ribbon controller I recently posted about. I'm >having a little trouble figuring out the pinouts for everything. One of its >connectors is a 6 pin Jones plug that plugged directly into an auxillary >power socket in the back of a Minimoog. > >Does anyone have a Mini schematic that can determine the voltages and >signals present on this connector? > >Help resurrect the ribbon! > >Dave Bradley >Principal Software Engineer >Engineering Animation, Inc. >daveb@... > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. >http://www.onelist.com >Join a new list today! >
1999-06-18 by gjalass@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:38:23 -0500, you wrote: >From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...> > >I've disassembled the Moog ribbon controller I recently posted about. I'm >having a little trouble figuring out the pinouts for everything. One of its >connectors is a 6 pin Jones plug that plugged directly into an auxillary >power socket in the back of a Minimoog. > >Does anyone have a Mini schematic that can determine the voltages and >signals present on this connector? > >Help resurrect the ribbon! > >Dave Bradley >Principal Software Engineer >Engineering Animation, Inc. >daveb@... > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. >http://www.onelist.com >Join a new list today! Dave, the schematic being attached might be of help ( the 956 I have has a 8pin connector ) . Btw - I don't own a Moog but managed to aquire a ribbon controller ;-) Gert
1999-06-18 by Dave Bradley
I am unable to verify with a DVM myself, since I don't have the Mini, just the ribbon controller I want to hook up to my MOTM! Dave Bradley Principal Software Engineer Engineering Animation, Inc. daveb@...
> -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...] > Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 5:20 PM > To: motm@onelist.com > Subject: Re: [motm] Minimoog aux socket pinout? > > > From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...> > > Seems to be: > > #1 +10V > #2 ground > #3 -10V > > rest are NC > > Get DVM and verify > > Paul S. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Bradley <daveb@...> > To: MOTM List <motm@onelist.com> > Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 3:42 PM > Subject: [motm] Minimoog aux socket pinout? > > > >From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...> > > > >I've disassembled the Moog ribbon controller I recently posted about. I'm > >having a little trouble figuring out the pinouts for everything. > One of its > >connectors is a 6 pin Jones plug that plugged directly into an auxillary > >power socket in the back of a Minimoog. > > > >Does anyone have a Mini schematic that can determine the voltages and > >signals present on this connector? > > > >Help resurrect the ribbon! > > > >Dave Bradley > >Principal Software Engineer > >Engineering Animation, Inc. > >daveb@... > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. > >http://www.onelist.com > >Join a new list today! > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How many communities do you think join ONElist each week? > http://www.onelist.com > More than 5,000! Create yours now! >
1999-06-20 by JWBarlow@xxx.xxx
Hi Dave, Aren't there electrolytic caps where the power comes on to the PCB? If so, you should be able to determine which is +10V, and which is -10V by checking the orientation of the caps. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask you to do a few measurements on your ribbon: 1) What is the resistance of the resistive material across the length of the ribbon? 2) Is there a spring mechanism (causing the touch strip to retract) of any kind on the touch strip of the ribbon? 3) What is the distance between the two strips (conductive and resistive) when no touch is applied? 4) On a picture I've seen of the Moog ribbon it appears to have a large Cinch/Jones plug in the middle of the cable which terminates to: the 6 pin Cinch/Jones plug, a two pin Cinch/Jones plug (for the S-trig), and two 1/4" phone jacks -- one is clearly the ribbon CV out; what's the other one for? 5) Any idea what the resistive material is? I hope you can get it working with your MOTM. John B. In a message dated 6/18/99 12:42:36 PM, daveb@... writes:
>I've disassembled the Moog ribbon controller I recently posted about. I'm >having a little trouble figuring out the pinouts for everything. One of >its >connectors is a 6 pin Jones plug that plugged directly into an auxillary >power socket in the back of a Minimoog. >Does anyone have a Mini schematic that can determine the voltages and >signals present on this connector? >Help resurrect the ribbon!
1999-06-21 by Dave Bradley
> Aren't there electrolytic caps where the power comes on to the > PCB? If so, > you should be able to determine which is +10V, and which is -10V > by checking > the orientation of the caps. The caps are not the usual polarized can jobs, but ceramics unmarked except for a series of colored stripes. I've never seen any like them - an attempt at a color code for capacitance, maybe? I've figured out where V+ and V- are on the board, but there is an extra connection to the 6 pin Minimoog socket on pin 5 that goes to pin 14 of a 7337? that I can't identify - if I had to guess, I'd guess +5V. > 1) What is the resistance of the resistive material across the > length of the > ribbon? Have to check on this. My guess is that the resistive element is not the metallic coating on the underside of the ribbon itself, but the wirewound element embedded in the panel that the ribbon presses against. > 2) Is there a spring mechanism (causing the touch strip to > retract) of any > kind on the touch strip of the ribbon? Yes. The end of the ribbon at the control panel is held in a clamp that is spring loaded. > 3) What is the distance between the two strips (conductive and resistive) > when no touch is applied? About 1/4". > 4) On a picture I've seen of the Moog ribbon it appears to have a large > Cinch/Jones plug in the middle of the cable which terminates to: > the 6 pin > Cinch/Jones plug, a two pin Cinch/Jones plug (for the S-trig), > and two 1/4" > phone jacks -- one is clearly the ribbon CV out; what's the other one for? A second CV is available, controlled by a slider on the control panel - I always controlled filter cutoff with mine. > 5) Any idea what the resistive material is? Let me double check this tonight. Dave Bradley Principal Software Engineer Engineering Animation, Inc. daveb@...
1999-06-22 by JWBarlow@xxx.xxx
Hi Dave, Thanks for answering the questions. I hope you can figure out the IC. I found an OB-1 a couple of years ago with a bad power transistor but couldn't get it to work. The number on it was 7808, it took me a while to realize that was the date code, not the part number -- DOH! Your indication of a wirewound material is interesting since there are very large wirewound resistors. You've got me thinkin! Always a good thing. Good luck! John B. In a message dated 6/21/99 6:20:19 AM, daveb@... writes:
>I've figured out where V+ and V- are on the board, but there is an extra >connection to the 6 pin Minimoog socket on pin 5 that goes to pin 14 of >a >7337? that I can't identify - if I had to guess, I'd guess +5V. >> 1) What is the resistance of the resistive material across the >> length of the >> ribbon? >Have to check on this. My guess is that the resistive element is not the >metallic coating on the underside of the ribbon itself, but the wirewound >element embedded in the panel that the ribbon presses against.
1999-06-22 by Dave Bradley
> >> 1) What is the resistance of the resistive material across the > >> length of the > >> ribbon? > > >Have to check on this. My guess is that the resistive element is not the > >metallic coating on the underside of the ribbon itself, but the wirewound > >element embedded in the panel that the ribbon presses against. I checked this out last night. Resistance of the metallic foil laminated to the ribbon is very low, about 2 ohms. Resistance of the embedded wirewound element is 1K ohms. Dave Bradley Principal Software Engineer Engineering Animation, Inc. daveb@...