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2000-06-08 by David Bivins
I have a couple Behringer Ultrapatch patch bays. Set channels to parallel mode and connect adjacent channels from behind with short patch cables (only one necessary for each "column"). Instant mults! David.
2000-06-09 by Tentochi
This is EXACTLY what I do. They fit great in SKB pop-up mixer cases too. The path bays are a bit heavy compared to others, but they are built like tanks, easy to configure and fairly inexpensive. I will probably get a few more soon. --Shemp
> I have a couple Behringer Ultrapatch patch bays. > Set channels to parallel mode and connect adjacent channels from > behind with > short patch cables (only one necessary for each "column"). Instant mults! > David.
2000-06-09 by alt-mode
I'll also confirm this trick too! I have a few mults in almost every patch bay. The 6" cables needed to connect them are also pretty inexpensive. I've had the best success with the Neutrik balanced patch bays. Guitar Center appears to be blowing them out at $69 now. They have a removable front plate that allows you to swap a set of jacks between normalled, half-normalled, etc. Very convenient! The final trick I have for patch bays is to lay them out in Excel and get the cell size to match the space above each jack. Then, you can print the labels using Avery 8.5" x 11" label stock, cut out the labels and apply them to the bays. Also, you can create labels for the rear of the patch bay by doing a copy, paste with transposition, sort, and repaste with transposition. I have found the labels on the rear to be a really big help when trying to connect up stuff in the back of a busy rack. If anyone wants a spreadsheet sized for Neutrik or Tascam patch bays, I could probably email them out. Eric --- Tentochi <tentochi@...> wrote: > This is EXACTLY what I do. They fit great in SKB pop-up mixer cases too. > > The path bays are a bit heavy compared to others, but they are built like > tanks, easy to configure and fairly inexpensive. > > I will probably get a few more soon. > > --Shemp > > > I have a couple Behringer Ultrapatch patch bays. > > Set channels to parallel mode and connect adjacent channels from > > behind with > > short patch cables (only one necessary for each "column"). Instant mults! > > David. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
2000-06-09 by alt-mode
After a few patch bays and studio reorganizations/moves, the organizational tricks became a necessity ;) Actually, after you've done it once, future changes are pretty easy. I've put a few layers of labels on some bays and I've also marked them up as things changed rather than reprint the labels. The old Avery labels were messy and stuck too well, requiring Goo-Gone to cleanup. However, the newer labels remove much more cleanly now while sticking well. You might want to give it another try... I use the Post-It correction tape for mixer strips all the time! You can store strips for old setups on the side of a rack real easy. Well, it might require a piece of tape on top just to keep it there.... I also use the correction tape for scribbling things on rack mount boxes, like channel numbers or wierd routings. But you are right, if the tape doesn't have something to fully contact all the time, it dries up and falls off. Eric --- David Bivins <dbivins@...> wrote: > Damn--you're super organized! I've been using the 3M Post-It correction tape > for labeling things, but it doesn't stick for very long. I've been > considering buying a label-maker. I'd do the Avery labels, but they may > stick *too* well, and I'm restless, always moving things around in the > patchbay every few months. > > But thanks for the tips (especially for the backs of the 'bays)! > > David. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: alt-mode [mailto:alt_mode@...] > > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 10:41 AM > > To: motm@egroups.com > > Subject: RE: [motm] cheap mult trick > > > > > > I'll also confirm this trick too! I have a few mults in almost > > every patch bay. > > The 6" cables needed to connect them are also pretty inexpensive. > > > > I've had the best success with the Neutrik balanced patch bays. > > Guitar Center > > appears to be blowing them out at $69 now. They have a removable > > front plate that > > allows you to swap a set of jacks between normalled, > > half-normalled, etc. Very > > convenient! > > > > The final trick I have for patch bays is to lay them out in Excel > > and get the cell > > size to match the space above each jack. Then, you can print the > > labels using Avery > > 8.5" x 11" label stock, cut out the labels and apply them to the > > bays. Also, you > > can create labels for the rear of the patch bay by doing a copy, > > paste with > > transposition, sort, and repaste with transposition. I have > > found the labels on the > > rear to be a really big help when trying to connect up stuff in > > the back of a busy > > rack. > > > > If anyone wants a spreadsheet sized for Neutrik or Tascam patch > > bays, I could > > probably email them out. > > > > Eric > > > > > > --- Tentochi <tentochi@...> wrote: > > > This is EXACTLY what I do. They fit great in SKB pop-up mixer > > cases too. > > > > > > The path bays are a bit heavy compared to others, but they are > > built like > > > tanks, easy to configure and fairly inexpensive. > > > > > > I will probably get a few more soon. > > > > > > --Shemp > > > > > > > I have a couple Behringer Ultrapatch patch bays. > > > > Set channels to parallel mode and connect adjacent channels from > > > > behind with > > > > short patch cables (only one necessary for each "column"). > > Instant mults! > > > > David. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > > http://photos.yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! > > 1. Fill in the brief application > > 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds > > 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR > > http://click.egroups.com/1/5197/5/_/529958/_/960568832/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
2000-06-09 by David Bivins
Damn--you're super organized! I've been using the 3M Post-It correction tape for labeling things, but it doesn't stick for very long. I've been considering buying a label-maker. I'd do the Avery labels, but they may stick *too* well, and I'm restless, always moving things around in the patchbay every few months. But thanks for the tips (especially for the backs of the 'bays)! David.
> -----Original Message----- > From: alt-mode [mailto:alt_mode@...] > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 10:41 AM > To: motm@egroups.com > Subject: RE: [motm] cheap mult trick > > > I'll also confirm this trick too! I have a few mults in almost > every patch bay. > The 6" cables needed to connect them are also pretty inexpensive. > > I've had the best success with the Neutrik balanced patch bays. > Guitar Center > appears to be blowing them out at $69 now. They have a removable > front plate that > allows you to swap a set of jacks between normalled, > half-normalled, etc. Very > convenient! > > The final trick I have for patch bays is to lay them out in Excel > and get the cell > size to match the space above each jack. Then, you can print the > labels using Avery > 8.5" x 11" label stock, cut out the labels and apply them to the > bays. Also, you > can create labels for the rear of the patch bay by doing a copy, > paste with > transposition, sort, and repaste with transposition. I have > found the labels on the > rear to be a really big help when trying to connect up stuff in > the back of a busy > rack. > > If anyone wants a spreadsheet sized for Neutrik or Tascam patch > bays, I could > probably email them out. > > Eric > > > --- Tentochi <tentochi@...> wrote: > > This is EXACTLY what I do. They fit great in SKB pop-up mixer > cases too. > > > > The path bays are a bit heavy compared to others, but they are > built like > > tanks, easy to configure and fairly inexpensive. > > > > I will probably get a few more soon. > > > > --Shemp > > > > > I have a couple Behringer Ultrapatch patch bays. > > > Set channels to parallel mode and connect adjacent channels from > > > behind with > > > short patch cables (only one necessary for each "column"). > Instant mults! > > > David. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! > 1. Fill in the brief application > 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds > 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR > http://click.egroups.com/1/5197/5/_/529958/_/960568832/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >
2000-06-09 by mr sikorsky
2000-06-09 by Brousseau, Paul E (Paul)
I use a Neutrik balanced patch bay. The cheap model. And it grips jacks like no-one's business. I don't think I'll ever have to worry about jacks falling out. You do have to flip cards to change normalization, but once a patch bay is in place, do you really need to change it that much? (Of course, who am I to talk? I've had my patch bay for about a month, and its just sitting on top of the MIDI box-- not even bolted to the rack yet!) --PBr, who almost bought the Behringer...
> -----Original Message----- > From: David Bivins [SMTP:dbivins@...] > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 3:46 PM > To: motm@egroups.com > Subject: RE: [motm] cheap mult trick > > Heh. My use of Behringers (for me--your mileage may vary) is out of > cheapness (they're cheap) and laziness (you select normalling via > switches--no card flipping). The back jacks pretty much blow--my plugs > pull out if you look at them cross-eyed. So the back of my rack is > *usually* carefully arranged to avoid any stress or pressure whatsoever, > but they still pull out. Many nights I've been happily tweaking my MOTM > when suddenly something goes wrong--where'd the spring reverb go? Oh--it > popped out the back of the patchbay. Sigh. > > But I can't justify anything better or soldered until my studio is stable > (i.e. not buying everything in sight). > > David. >
2000-06-09 by David Bivins
-----Original Message-----
From: mr sikorsky [mailto:vulture.squadron@...]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 2:02 PM
To: motm@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [motm] cheap mult trickhello all,yep, my entire attic of doom is wired with Ultrapatch, although knowing B***er (like D***er is refered to sometimes - PLEASE don't anyone turn this into a thread) I await the day when i have to resolder the entire lot. saying that, we have a big pile of Mosses & Mitchell bantam patch at work and although these are almost the pinnacle of patch technology, they do go badly wrong after a whilehowever, if anyone runs Corel Presentations (on PC) AND has Ultrapatch - i have a pre-formatted labelling system i can email through (for that matter, if anyone has M&M 80 way & 96 way bantams, i have that too)anyway, the weekend has just started, i've recovered from lugging my recently refurbished LS1s (ex BBC active monitors - TUBE DRIVEN circa 1961) into the attic, my Claret is suitably warm, and a pizza has just turned up... ...cheers paul b
2000-06-10 by Charles Stella
I have a Brother P-Touch for labeling. I love this thing! Cost about $80 but has many uses. You can buy the labels in all sorts of sizes and colors. And for the ultra-cheap mult I use these Headphone type splitter jacks but with the mono plugs. You just plug the single end into a jack and you have two outputs instantly. You can move them around at will and they are fairly low profile. And did I say cheap!. Charles. David Bivins wrote:
> Damn--you're super organized! I've been using the 3M Post-It > correction tape > for labeling things, but it doesn't stick for very long. I've been > considering buying a label-maker. I'd do the Avery labels, but they > may > stick *too* well, and I'm restless, always moving things around in the > > patchbay every few months. > > But thanks for the tips (especially for the backs of the 'bays)! > > David. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: alt-mode [mailto:alt_mode@...] > > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 10:41 AM > > To: motm@egroups.com > > Subject: RE: [motm] cheap mult trick > > > > > > I'll also confirm this trick too! I have a few mults in almost > > every patch bay. > > The 6" cables needed to connect them are also pretty inexpensive. > > > > I've had the best success with the Neutrik balanced patch bays. > > Guitar Center > > appears to be blowing them out at $69 now. They have a removable > > front plate that > > allows you to swap a set of jacks between normalled, > > half-normalled, etc. Very > > convenient! > > > > The final trick I have for patch bays is to lay them out in Excel > > and get the cell > > size to match the space above each jack. Then, you can print the > > labels using Avery > > 8.5" x 11" label stock, cut out the labels and apply them to the > > bays. Also, you > > can create labels for the rear of the patch bay by doing a copy, > > paste with > > transposition, sort, and repaste with transposition. I have > > found the labels on the > > rear to be a really big help when trying to connect up stuff in > > the back of a busy > > rack. > > > > If anyone wants a spreadsheet sized for Neutrik or Tascam patch > > bays, I could > > probably email them out. > > > > Eric > > > > > > --- Tentochi <tentochi@...> wrote: > > > This is EXACTLY what I do. They fit great in SKB pop-up mixer > > cases too. > > > > > > The path bays are a bit heavy compared to others, but they are > > built like > > > tanks, easy to configure and fairly inexpensive. > > > > > > I will probably get a few more soon. > > > > > > --Shemp > > > > > > > I have a couple Behringer Ultrapatch patch bays. > > > > Set channels to parallel mode and connect adjacent channels from > > > > > behind with > > > > short patch cables (only one necessary for each "column"). > > Instant mults! > > > > David. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > > http://photos.yahoo.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! > > 1. Fill in the brief application > > 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds > > 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR > > http://click.egroups.com/1/5197/5/_/529958/_/960568832/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >