MOTM

inspired by david bivins' post about sending trigger signal from a 606
to the 120, i figured "yeah!  now i can sync the the 410 LFO rate to the
606!"  alas, it doesn't seem to work.  can someone tell me why?  does it
have something to do with my not installing that mysterious optional
resistor?  and while i'm on the subject, what does that resistor do
anyway?

sorry if any of this has been brought up before.

alex

> ????
> 
> The 410's built in LFO does not have sync capabilities. However if you have
> a 320, you should be able to sync it to the 606 trigger, and plug it in to
> the 410 overriding the internal LFO.

i think i'm confused between sync and voltage controlled.  forgive my
newbiness.

> The mysterious resistor just changes the audil input gain of the filter,
> optimizing it for the weaker signals outside the MOTM system.

ah, okay.  easy one.

> Right. Let me be more clear if I was not before: I was sending triggers to
> the 800 EG and the 320 LFO. The LFO and EG were then modulating the 420--it
> had nothing to do with the 120. The 120 was just supplying audio into the
> filter and wasn't being modulated itself. What Dave said is intelligent--use
> the 320 to override the internal LFO of the 410.

okay, but feeding the trigger out of the 606 into the 120 does produce a
sound, albeit a rather limited click.

> Now, having said that, let me stir up the pot again--set up the patch the
> same way (audio into 120, 

see, i can't get sound if i audio out of the 606 into the 120.  it was
the first thing i tried upon building it.

> 120 into 420 or 440, trigger into 320 and 800, 320
> and 800 modulating FM1 & FM2 of 4X0), then send a separate LFO output into
> the "B" input of the 120 in cross mode, with "to taste" settings of the
> suboctaves. Playing with the shape and rate of the LFO, you may be able to
> get stepping out of the 120 that's rhythmically compatible.

okay, that works.  i can clearly see i'm going to need more modules! 
but isn't that always the case?

alex

????

The 410's built in LFO does not have sync capabilities. However if you have
a 320, you should be able to sync it to the 606 trigger, and plug it in to
the 410 overriding the internal LFO.

The mysterious resistor just changes the audil input gain of the filter,
optimizing it for the weaker signals outside the MOTM system.

Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
daveb@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander S. Dickey [mailto:perpetual@...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 12:46 PM
> To: motm@onelist.com
> Subject: [motm] clocking the 410
>
>
> inspired by david bivins' post about sending trigger signal from a 606
> to the 120, i figured "yeah!  now i can sync the the 410 LFO rate to the
> 606!"  alas, it doesn't seem to work.  can someone tell me why?  does it
> have something to do with my not installing that mysterious optional
> resistor?  and while i'm on the subject, what does that resistor do
> anyway?
>
> sorry if any of this has been brought up before.
>
> alex
>

Well, I don't know about that!

Moe

> From: David Bivins [mailto:dbivins@...]

> What Dave said is intelligent

Right. Let me be more clear if I was not before: I was sending triggers to
the 800 EG and the 320 LFO. The LFO and EG were then modulating the 420--it
had nothing to do with the 120. The 120 was just supplying audio into the
filter and wasn't being modulated itself. What Dave said is intelligent--use
the 320 to override the internal LFO of the 410.

Now, having said that, let me stir up the pot again--set up the patch the
same way (audio into 120, 120 into 420 or 440, trigger into 320 and 800, 320
and 800 modulating FM1 & FM2 of 4X0), then send a separate LFO output into
the "B" input of the 120 in cross mode, with "to taste" settings of the
suboctaves. Playing with the shape and rate of the LFO, you may be able to
get stepping out of the 120 that's rhythmically compatible.

Did that make sense? If it didn't, make sure to try what Paul suggests as a
120 use--then you'll understand. Basically, put an audio source into input A
of the 120 and a LFO output into input B of the 120 (in cross mode). Then
start dialing in the suboctaves in different combinations (e.g. 1 and 3
"on," 2 and 4 "off," etc.) It's a neat effect, though I'd like to figure out
how to get more flexibility out of it. I have yet to explore all settings of
the 320 in interaction with the 120.

Someone please give your experiences VCing the sweep, rate and depth of the
410; I haven't had time to really get into it yet, and I'm curious about it.

David.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Bradley [mailto:daveb@...]
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 9:50 AM
> To: motm@onelist.com
> Subject: RE: [motm] clocking the 410
>
>
> ????
>
> The 410's built in LFO does not have sync capabilities. However
> if you have
> a 320, you should be able to sync it to the 606 trigger, and plug it in to
> the 410 overriding the internal LFO.
>
> The mysterious resistor just changes the audil input gain of the filter,
> optimizing it for the weaker signals outside the MOTM system.
>
> Dave Bradley
> Principal Software Engineer
> Engineering Animation, Inc.
> daveb@...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alexander S. Dickey [mailto:perpetual@...]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 12:46 PM
> > To: motm@onelist.com
> > Subject: [motm] clocking the 410
> >
> >
> > inspired by david bivins' post about sending trigger signal from a 606
> > to the 120, i figured "yeah!  now i can sync the the 410 LFO rate to the
> > 606!"  alas, it doesn't seem to work.  can someone tell me why?  does it
> > have something to do with my not installing that mysterious optional
> > resistor?  and while i'm on the subject, what does that resistor do
> > anyway?
> >
> > sorry if any of this has been brought up before.
> >
> > alex
> >
>
>
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> see, i can't get sound if i audio out of the 606 into the 120.  it was
> the first thing i tried upon building it.

Do you have a mixer with auxiliary sends? Send the 606 audio to a mixer
channel, then send it out through an aux send, turning up the aux send and
gain trim as necessary to "beef up" the signal. I have a Mackie 1604vlz and
it works like a charm for this purpose. Just sending audio into the 120
without amplifying it may not work for some synths. If you can't boost it
any other way, try using the headphone output of the 606--this will be
louder than the regular output.

David.