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Patch Diagramming

2000-03-01 by Tkacs, Ken

Are any of you familiar with an iconic drawing program called "Visio"? It's
a great way of quickly dragging/dropping pre-defined shapes onto a vector
drawing field and dynamically connecting the shapes. It gives you a lot of
flexible options for designing your own shapes with "magic" properties,
connectors that follow shapes around as you move them, etc.

I use it at work to maintain drawings of our massive & constantly changing
server room racks, showing connections, etc. I can even assign URLs to the
elements, in this case the IP addresses of the manageable switches, &c., so
just double-clicking on a drawing of a switch brings up an HTML management
console. It's very fast, very cool.

Rumor is Microsoft just bought them. Their products have always dovetailed
very smoothly with MS Office.

Anyway, I mention it because, while this program is fantastic for org
charts, network diagrams, etc., I've recently been thinking that it would be
worth making a stencil bar of MOTM modules. then for patch sheets, all I
need do is drag the modules I'm using off the palette ("Stencil") bar, drag
colored connecting lines that will dynamically change as I shuffle the
modules around on the 'page,' and viola! Completely consistent,
professional, yet customized patch diagrams.

I haven't had a chance to do this yet, but I plan to. I wouldn't mind giving
out the stencil that I create; maybe Paul would even put it on his site as a
freebie for MOTM users.

I was actually thinking of three stencils: one with 'realistic' drawings of
the modules for designing systems, one with more 'stylized' versions for
recording settings, etc., and one using the classic symbolic patch system
developed in the Seventies (circles for sources, triangles for modifiers,
rectangles for controllers, etc.).

On the other hand, if no one else has Visio, this doesn't help you much.
Dell used to give away a free "Lite" copy on their PCs for a while, but they
stopped doing this.

RE: Patch Diagramming

2000-03-01 by Dave Bradley

Works great for me. I use Visio at work also, and yes, MicroSloth did in
fact buy them.

Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tkacs, Ken [mailto:ken.tkacs@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 2:04 PM
> To: 'motm@onelist.com'
> Subject: [motm] Patch Diagramming
>
>
> From: "Tkacs, Ken" <ken.tkacs@...>
>
>
> Are any of you familiar with an iconic drawing program called
> "Visio"? It's
> a great way of quickly dragging/dropping pre-defined shapes onto a vector
> drawing field and dynamically connecting the shapes. It gives you a lot of
> flexible options for designing your own shapes with "magic" properties,
> connectors that follow shapes around as you move them, etc.
>
> I use it at work to maintain drawings of our massive & constantly changing
> server room racks, showing connections, etc. I can even assign URLs to the
> elements, in this case the IP addresses of the manageable
> switches, &c., so
> just double-clicking on a drawing of a switch brings up an HTML management
> console. It's very fast, very cool.
>
> Rumor is Microsoft just bought them. Their products have always dovetailed
> very smoothly with MS Office.
>
> Anyway, I mention it because, while this program is fantastic for org
> charts, network diagrams, etc., I've recently been thinking that
> it would be
> worth making a stencil bar of MOTM modules. then for patch sheets, all I
> need do is drag the modules I'm using off the palette ("Stencil")
> bar, drag
> colored connecting lines that will dynamically change as I shuffle the
> modules around on the 'page,' and viola! Completely consistent,
> professional, yet customized patch diagrams.
>
> I haven't had a chance to do this yet, but I plan to. I wouldn't
> mind giving
> out the stencil that I create; maybe Paul would even put it on
> his site as a
> freebie for MOTM users.
>
> I was actually thinking of three stencils: one with 'realistic'
> drawings of
> the modules for designing systems, one with more 'stylized' versions for
> recording settings, etc., and one using the classic symbolic patch system
> developed in the Seventies (circles for sources, triangles for modifiers,
> rectangles for controllers, etc.).
>
> On the other hand, if no one else has Visio, this doesn't help you much.
> Dell used to give away a free "Lite" copy on their PCs for a
> while, but they
> stopped doing this.
>
>
>
>
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RE: Patch Diagramming

2000-03-01 by Tkacs, Ken

Yeah, I like arrows for looks, but numbers are fast & accurate.
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From: 	alt-mode [mailto:alt_mode@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, 01 March, 2000 3:49 PM
To:	motm@onelist.com
Subject:	Re: [motm] Patch Diagramming



Probably the most difficult thing for the stencils is the knob marking.  I
have seen
this done with arrows or with numbers on the knobs.  The arrows are easier
to
visualize but the numbers are more accurate.

Re: Patch Diagramming

2000-03-01 by alt-mode

Ken,

A Visio stencil is a *fantastic* idea!  I used Visio to draw the Moog/MOTM cabinet I
sent out awhile ago.  I was concerned about using a static module layout diagram for
patch "storage" since patches can use a variable number of modules and the setup can
change/grow.  However, if you use a stencil, we can share diagrams and the modules
needed for a patch would be very clear from the diagram.  For the Visio challenged,
we can make PDFs, JPEGs, or GIFs of the diagrams.  You could even draw up patches
while away from your MOTM system to try out later (great, another thing that can
keep me from getting work done!).

Probably the most difficult thing for the stencils is the knob marking.  I have seen
this done with arrows or with numbers on the knobs.  The arrows are easier to
visualize but the numbers are more accurate.

  Eric


--- "Tkacs, Ken" <ken.tkacs@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anyway, I mention it because, while this program is fantastic for org
> charts, network diagrams, etc., I've recently been thinking that it would be
> worth making a stencil bar of MOTM modules. then for patch sheets, all I
> need do is drag the modules I'm using off the palette ("Stencil") bar, drag
> colored connecting lines that will dynamically change as I shuffle the
> modules around on the 'page,' and viola! Completely consistent,
> professional, yet customized patch diagrams.
> 
> I haven't had a chance to do this yet, but I plan to. I wouldn't mind giving
> out the stencil that I create; maybe Paul would even put it on his site as a
> freebie for MOTM users.
> 
> I was actually thinking of three stencils: one with 'realistic' drawings of
> the modules for designing systems, one with more 'stylized' versions for
> recording settings, etc., and one using the classic symbolic patch system
> developed in the Seventies (circles for sources, triangles for modifiers,
> rectangles for controllers, etc.).
> 
> On the other hand, if no one else has Visio, this doesn't help you much.
> Dell used to give away a free "Lite" copy on their PCs for a while, but they
> stopped doing this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Patch Diagramming

2000-03-01 by Nathan Alan Hunsicker

IF YOU CAN IMPORT EPS'S OR PDF'S INTO VISIO I WILL PROVIDE MY VECTOR
DRAWINGS FOR THOSE WHO WANT THEM, I LEFT SPACES TO DRAW IN WHERE THE LINE
ON THE KNOW IS AND CHECK OF SWITHCH SETTINGS. SO FAR I HAVE THE 800, 100,
110, 120 & 300 DONE. -NATE

PS SORRY FOR ALL CAPS...
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>Yeah, I like arrows for looks, but numbers are fast & accurate.
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> -----Original Message-----
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>From:       alt-mode [mailto:alt_mode@...]
>
>Sent:      Wednesday, 01 March, 2000 3:49 PM
>
>To:      motm@onelist.com
>
>Subject:      Re: [motm] Patch Diagramming
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>Probably the most difficult thing for the stencils is the knob marking.  I
>
>have seen
>
>this done with arrows or with numbers on the knobs.  The arrows are easier
>
>to
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>visualize but the numbers are more accurate.
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RE: Patch Diagramming

2000-03-01 by Tkacs, Ken

Visio can import EPS's, but then they just "sit" there and don't have the
'magic' properties that makes it such a great tool for doing this kind of
thing.

Re: Patch Diagramming

2000-03-02 by james holloway

I use visio at work also. Good Idea to draw patches like that. Maybe we 
could figure out how to convert them to other formats for others.


>From: "Tkacs, Ken" <ken.tkacs@...>
>Reply-To: motm@onelist.com
>To: "'motm@onelist.com'" <motm@onelist.com>
>Subject: [motm] Patch Diagramming
>Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:04:01 -0500
>
>
>Are any of you familiar with an iconic drawing program called "Visio"? It's
>a great way of quickly dragging/dropping pre-defined shapes onto a vector
>drawing field and dynamically connecting the shapes. It gives you a lot of
>flexible options for designing your own shapes with "magic" properties,
>connectors that follow shapes around as you move them, etc.
>
>I use it at work to maintain drawings of our massive & constantly changing
>server room racks, showing connections, etc. I can even assign URLs to the
>elements, in this case the IP addresses of the manageable switches, &c., so
>just double-clicking on a drawing of a switch brings up an HTML management
>console. It's very fast, very cool.
>
>Rumor is Microsoft just bought them. Their products have always dovetailed
>very smoothly with MS Office.
>
>Anyway, I mention it because, while this program is fantastic for org
>charts, network diagrams, etc., I've recently been thinking that it would 
>be
>worth making a stencil bar of MOTM modules. then for patch sheets, all I
>need do is drag the modules I'm using off the palette ("Stencil") bar, drag
>colored connecting lines that will dynamically change as I shuffle the
>modules around on the 'page,' and viola! Completely consistent,
>professional, yet customized patch diagrams.
>
>I haven't had a chance to do this yet, but I plan to. I wouldn't mind 
>giving
>out the stencil that I create; maybe Paul would even put it on his site as 
>a
>freebie for MOTM users.
>
>I was actually thinking of three stencils: one with 'realistic' drawings of
>the modules for designing systems, one with more 'stylized' versions for
>recording settings, etc., and one using the classic symbolic patch system
>developed in the Seventies (circles for sources, triangles for modifiers,
>rectangles for controllers, etc.).
>
>On the other hand, if no one else has Visio, this doesn't help you much.
>Dell used to give away a free "Lite" copy on their PCs for a while, but 
>they
>stopped doing this.
>
>
>

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RE: Patch Diagramming

2000-03-02 by Tkacs, Ken

Visio can export to almost any format. But it's the Visio environment itself
that makes it so useful. Exported graphics would be good for static patch
sheets.
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From: 	james holloway [mailto:jimh54@...] 
Sent:	Thursday, 02 March, 2000 7:46 AM
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Subject:	Re: [motm] Patch Diagramming

From: "james holloway" <jimh54@...>

I use visio at work also. Good Idea to draw patches like that. Maybe we 
could figure out how to convert them to other formats for others.

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