MOTM

I agree Chris. I know this list is for MOTM, but I can't help but want to 
compare the two as far as sonic texture and features go. MOTM is the cream 
of the crop, so as a system above the rest I think we need to know what the 
plain-old "milk" modules sound like. PAiA 9700 too! Personally, I find the 
Blacet modules to be an excellent addition to my studio although nowhere 
near as road worthy as MOTM. My whole rack of non MOTM is studio-bound for 
sure while I feel very confident about the construction and life span of my 
MOTM!

I also agree with Paul about using the LFO and its shape features with the 
110 Ring Mod. After some deep experimentataion last night I can't help but 
boast of the 320/110 combo. The results are spectacular. You would need the 
following modules to duplicate the Blacet Klanger:

110 Ring Mod VCA
320 LFO (carrier wave with shape, but LFO also added not on blacet!)
800 EG or 840 Envelope Follower (simple envelope control)

So buy all of these kits above and see the MOTM fireworks if you have a 
blacet and think its the end of the road for features. I used my 
self-oscillating 420 filter for the input to the ring mod. I won't even get 
into how it sounds with both of my two ring mod together, but let me say it 
was a treat. Thanks again for listening,

Thomas White

PS. There is no planned module like the dark star Kaos as of yet? Like 
digital noise or something else snap crackly poppy for us distrotion heads!

>From: Christopher Jeris <cjeris@...>
>Reply-To: motm@onelist.com
>To: motm@onelist.com
>Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM vs Blac** Ring Mod
>Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:46:34 -0500 (EST)
>
>
>Ok, I know D*****r, S***e and all the rest are dirty words, but do we
>really have to star out Mr Blacet too?  I can't be the only one who has an
>informal "subscription" to Blacet Research as well as MOTM.  They
>complement each other nicely!
>
>young enough to think real designers must have "M*",
>Chris Jeris
>
>
>

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> From: "thomas white" <djthomaswhite@...>
> 
> I agree Chris. I know this list is for MOTM, but I can't help
> but want to compare the two as far as sonic texture and
> features go. MOTM is the cream of the crop, so as a
> system above the rest I think we need to know what the 
> plain-old "milk" modules sound like.

Sorry to anybody if I came off as Blacet bashing.  That was not the
intention.  The intention was to point out that it takes another $50 in new
pots, jacks, and such to bring one up to the standard of quality we all
enjoy with MOTM.  I own two of the Blacet modules, as I was curious as to
how they were.  No offense to those that built them stock.  I just couldn't
do it.  My hatred for mini-phone jacks is only surpassed by old PAiA style
4700 pin jacks.  And, the dang knobs are just too close together.

> PAiA 9700 too!

I have two of the PAiA MID2CV8s from the 9700 series.  I was NOT impressed.
 I waited two years for them to come out.  Then, once I found MOTM, ended
up getting a Kenton anyway.  However, they were worth what I paid for them.

> Personally, I find the Blacet modules to be an excellent
> addition to my studio although nowhere near as road
> worthy as MOTM. 

I would not disagree with this.  I think I will find a niche for the two
Blacet modules I have.

> I also agree with Paul about using the LFO and its shape features with
the 
> 110 Ring Mod. After some deep experimentataion last night I can't help
but 
> boast of the 320/110 combo. The results are spectacular. You would need
the 
> following modules to duplicate the Blacet Klanger:
> 
> 110 Ring Mod VCA
> 320 LFO (carrier wave with shape, but LFO also added not on blacet!)
> 800 EG or 840 Envelope Follower (simple envelope control)
> 
> So buy all of these kits above and see the MOTM fireworks if you have a 
> blacet and think its the end of the road for features. I used my 
> self-oscillating 420 filter for the input to the ring mod. I won't even
get 
> into how it sounds with both of my two ring mod together, but let me say
it 
> was a treat. Thanks again for listening,

These are great ideas for a modular-stupid guy like me.  Keep 'em coming. 
I'm taking notes.

Larry (modular-on-stooge) Hendry