MOTM

Interesting results so far on the poll. Results are all over the
place, and there are more wild folks than I would have suspected.

Keep those votes coming!

Moe

> Interesting results so far on the poll. Results are all over the
> place, and there are more wild folks than I would have suspected.

My $0.02 worth, in addition to my vote: I'm not at all attached to the stock
MOTM look. I'm the happy owner of several Stooge panels but I switched to
using FPE for my own modules and conversions mostly because of the long lead
time for Stooge panels. Personally I think in-filled engraving looks better
than silkscreening, but I realize that makes me a heretic here. I'm not
terribly fussy about how my synth looks; nobody but myself, my girlfriend,
and the teenager who lives next door ever sees it. It's the sound that
really counts in the end, IMHO.

I believe that it's worth pointing out that there is a good deal of *cough
cough* variation in the panel markings of stock MOTM panels. 

It's also worth noting that small-format modular panels represent a good
market for you guys. You're probably already considering this since you
mentioned doing regular rack-mount panels also, but the business model
becomes much more compelling if you don't restrict yourselves to the MOTM
size and appearance.

In any case, I anticipate a need for about 20U of custom (i.e., original
designs, 1-3 of each) MOTM-height panels over the next few years. I'm sure
that represents a tiny fraction of your business. However, one of two
companies will get those panel jobs: FPE or the Stooges. If the Stooges
offer a product that's competitive with FPE in terms of pricing and delivery
time for one-off panels, I'd rather give you guys the business.

--Adam

Hi all--

Adam Schabtach's thoughts mirror, to a large extent, my own.

I've got a good number of standard MOTM panels, and Stooge panels which
match the MOTM standard. I've also got a handful of anodized and engraved
panels, and a few that have been DIY painted and labeled (erhm - *fairly*
neatly, of course), with letraset or whatever you call those stick-on
letters.

I've found that as long as the panel looks _generally_ like its neighbors
(i.e., black surface, white letters, similar knobs), that the precise nature
of the black surface or the lettering doesn't bother me much. I guess I'm
not as much of a stickler for consistency!

> However, one of two
> companies will get those panel jobs: FPE or the Stooges. If the Stooges
> offer a product that's competitive with FPE in terms of pricing and 
> delivery time for one-off panels, I'd rather give you guys the business.

Agreed. Additionally, if there were a Stooge service, I'd be more tempted to
convert over some of my hand-made panels as well.

Frank Vanaman

I totally agree with Adam here. I too have been
increasingly using FPE for making panels for Tony's
modules, and also for additional diy projects, mostly
19" front panels. 
    Also, John Loffink pointed out similar aspects:
the whole thing is getting more and more expensive;
personally, I'm only too happy if I can reduce some of
the costs of FPE, because that money can then go into
additional modules/circuits/other diy projects.
    I do have several anodized panels in use (black,
blue, even 2 provocative gold ones) and I'm very very
happy with their appearance! Also, I don't see any
fingerprints (dust is more of a concern...). And Adam
is also right about the small variations in the
silkscreen in Paul's modules.... as it has been
pointed out before: it's about the sound and noise,
the exterior look is secondary. The important thing is
the form factor (that includes pots and jacks) which
is kept standard.
     If the Stooges are considering to offer a
FPE-like service, that would definitely be a great
thing! Those of us who are also on the SDIY mailing
list are aware that an FPE-like service would receive
lots of positive reactions. That, I think, would be an
advantage price- and marketwise for the
MOTM-community.

Best,
Dino


--- Adam Schabtach <adam@...> wrote:

> My $0.02 worth, in addition to my vote: I'm not at
> all attached to the stock
> MOTM look. I'm the happy owner of several Stooge
> panels but I switched to
> using FPE for my own modules and conversions mostly
> because of the long lead
> time for Stooge panels. Personally I think in-filled
> engraving looks better
> than silkscreening, but I realize that makes me a
> heretic here. I'm not
> terribly fussy about how my synth looks; nobody but
> myself, my girlfriend,
> and the teenager who lives next door ever sees it.
> It's the sound that
> really counts in the end, IMHO.
> 
> I believe that it's worth pointing out that there is
> a good deal of *cough
> cough* variation in the panel markings of stock MOTM
> panels. 
> 
> It's also worth noting that small-format modular
> panels represent a good
> market for you guys. You're probably already
> considering this since you
> mentioned doing regular rack-mount panels also, but
> the business model
> becomes much more compelling if you don't restrict
> yourselves to the MOTM
> size and appearance.
> 
> In any case, I anticipate a need for about 20U of
> custom (i.e., original
> designs, 1-3 of each) MOTM-height panels over the
> next few years. I'm sure
> that represents a tiny fraction of your business.
> However, one of two
> companies will get those panel jobs: FPE or the
> Stooges. If the Stooges
> offer a product that's competitive with FPE in terms
> of pricing and delivery
> time for one-off panels, I'd rather give you guys
> the business.
> 
> --Adam
> 
> 
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