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What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

2005-09-18 by Richard Brewster

I am taking a big plunge with the 650 by getting into MIDI and a 
keyboard.  While not a keyboardist, I like the idea of having more 
controls.  I need some advice about a keyboard.  My basic requirements 
are at least 37 keys, 61 max, and velocity sensitive.  Here are some:

Synthesizers dot com
http://www.synthesizers.com/qkb15s.html

The wood cabinet matches my dot com cabinets perfectly.  But the 
controls are limited.  I am wondering whether something fancier -- if 
not as good-looking -- would be more entertaining, such as the following:

Alesis Photon X49:
http://www.alesis.com/products/new_products/

Korg microKONTROL.  But I'm not sure I want mini-keys.
http://www.korg.co.uk/products/pro_keyboard/microkontrol/pk_microkontrol.asp

Eridol PCR-M80
http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcrm80.html

I do not intend to plug this keyboard into a computer.  Just MIDI out to 
the 650 or my Digi-001.  While conceived for that purpose, these should 
work without the computer, right?  I do have a computer next to the 
synth running Windows 98SE and ProTools LE 5.1.  So I might take some 
advantage.

Your thoughts and experience are much appreciated!

TIA,

Richard Brewster

Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

2005-09-19 by ivancu@aol.com

Since you're looking for a basic MIDI keyboard I would recommend the 
Edirol PC-50.  It has a surprisingly nice keyboard and is VERY 
affordable, yet doesn't have all the knobs and other clutter of most 
controller keyboards.  It does have a USB connection for computer use.  
Connections come out of the side so it can be pushed right up against 
gear.  And it is simple and attractive looking:

http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pc50.html

I have an Emu Xboard 25 which does have aftertouch and a nice-feeling 
semi-weighted keyboard, but the overall appearance isn't great.  A 
49-key version is also available.  If you're really into keyboard 
"feel" this one is cool:

http://www.emu.com/products/welcome.asp?category=532

Ivan

Re: [motm] What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

2005-09-19 by Scott Juskiw

I've not yet found a keyboard controller that has everything I want. 
I picked up an MK461C from M-Audio a couple of years ago that I'm 
reasonably happy with. Pros: 61 keys, pitch and mod wheels (I hate 
the Roland/Korg levers), lots of knobs and faders, very light, cheap. 
Cons: no aftertouch, very cheap keyboard feel, does not include power 
supply (they think you'll power it from a USB connection to your 
computer) but you can pick one up at Rat Shack.

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MK461C-main.html
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>I am taking a big plunge with the 650 by getting into MIDI and a
>keyboard.  While not a keyboardist, I like the idea of having more
>controls.  I need some advice about a keyboard.  My basic requirements
>are at least 37 keys, 61 max, and velocity sensitive.

Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

2005-09-19 by peng3002

I have a M-Audio/Radium 61 key controller with sliders and knobs and it 
sucks. No monopreasure and I already had a key go bad after less than a 
year of use. There is a Synthesizers.com keyboard on Ebay right now. 
You don't even need a MIDI-CV with this one. It can function as a MIDI-
CV for other MIDI devices, too.

peng

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Scott Juskiw <scott@t...> wrote:
> I've not yet found a keyboard controller that has everything I want. 
> I picked up an MK461C from M-Audio a couple of years ago that I'm 
> reasonably happy with. Pros: 61 keys, pitch and mod wheels (I hate 
> the Roland/Korg levers), lots of knobs and faders, very light, cheap. 
> Cons: no aftertouch, very cheap keyboard feel, does not include power 
> supply (they think you'll power it from a USB connection to your 
> computer) but you can pick one up at Rat Shack.
> 
> http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MK461C-main.html
> 
> >I am taking a big plunge with the 650 by getting into MIDI and a
> >keyboard.  While not a keyboardist, I like the idea of having more
> >controls.  I need some advice about a keyboard.  My basic 
requirements
> >are at least 37 keys, 61 max, and velocity sensitive.

Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

2005-09-20 by coyoteous

Wow, I didn't realize the only hardware E-mu has now are sound cards and 
little controller keyboards - kinda sad...

Barry

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, ivancu@a... wrote:
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> Since you're looking for a basic MIDI keyboard I would recommend the 
> Edirol PC-50.  It has a surprisingly nice keyboard and is VERY 
> affordable, yet doesn't have all the knobs and other clutter of most 
> controller keyboards.  It does have a USB connection for computer use.  
> Connections come out of the side so it can be pushed right up against 
> gear.  And it is simple and attractive looking:
> 
> http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pc50.html
> 
> I have an Emu Xboard 25 which does have aftertouch and a nice-feeling 
> semi-weighted keyboard, but the overall appearance isn't great.  A 
> 49-key version is also available.  If you're really into keyboard 
> "feel" this one is cool:
> 
> http://www.emu.com/products/welcome.asp?category=532
> 
> Ivan

Re: [motm] Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

2005-09-24 by Richard Brewster

Thanks for all the replies, everyone.  I am leaning toward this one:

http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcrm80.html

People say the Edirol keyboards are good.  And the software supports 
Windows 98SE.  Now all I need is my MOTM-650!

-Richard Brewster

ivancu@... wrote:
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>Since you're looking for a basic MIDI keyboard I would recommend the 
>Edirol PC-50.  It has a surprisingly nice keyboard and is VERY 
>affordable, yet doesn't have all the knobs and other clutter of most 
>controller keyboards.  It does have a USB connection for computer use.  
>Connections come out of the side so it can be pushed right up against 
>gear.  And it is simple and attractive looking:
>
>http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pc50.html
>
>I have an Emu Xboard 25 which does have aftertouch and a nice-feeling 
>semi-weighted keyboard, but the overall appearance isn't great.  A 
>49-key version is also available.  If you're really into keyboard 
>"feel" this one is cool:
>
>http://www.emu.com/products/welcome.asp?category=532
>
>Ivan
>
>  
>

Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

2005-10-20 by kvltleader

Is anyone using a Novation Remote 25, 49 or 61.
If so , how is it.
Thanks
KL
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

Thanks for all the replies, everyone. I am leaning toward this one:

http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcrm80.html

People say the Edirol keyboards are good. And the software supports
Windows 98SE. Now all I need is my MOTM-650!

-Richard Brewster

ivancu@... wrote:

>Since you're looking for a basic MIDI keyboard I would recommend the
>Edirol PC-50. It has a surprisingly nice keyboard and is VERY
>affordable, yet doesn't have all the knobs and other clutter of most
>controller keyboards. It does have a USB connection for computer use.
>Connections come out of the side so it can be pushed right up against
>gear. And it is simple and attractive looking:
>
>http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pc50.html
>
>I have an Emu Xboard 25 which does have aftertouch and a nice-feeling
>semi-weighted keyboard, but the overall appearance isn't great. A
>49-key version is also available. If you're really into keyboard
>"feel" this one is cool:
>
>http://www.emu.com/products/welcome.asp?category=532
>
>Ivan
>
>
>


Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

2005-10-20 by Mike Marsh

I'm now using an M-Audio Pro Keys 88 for all things MIDI.  It is a
fantastic value (I picked mine up for $450.00 at Guitar Center in San
Diego): 88 weighted keys, a ton of assignable knobs, buttons and
sliders.  Too cool.

I used to use a Kawai KII, and then an M-Audio Ozone.  All good, but
the 88 has them beat to heck.

Mike

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, kvltleader <skm-etr@s...> wrote:
>
> Is anyone using a Novation Remote 25, 49 or 61. 
> http://www.novationmusic.com/product.asp?id=2&Type=1&bArchive=False
> 
> If so , how is it.
> 
> Thanks 
> KL
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Richard Brewster 
>   To: ivancu@a... 
>   Cc: motm@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:23 PM
>   Subject: Re: [motm] Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?
> 
> 
>   Thanks for all the replies, everyone.  I am leaning toward this one:
> 
>   http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcrm80.html
> 
>   People say the Edirol keyboards are good.  And the software supports 
>   Windows 98SE.  Now all I need is my MOTM-650!
> 
>   -Richard Brewster
> 
>   ivancu@a... wrote:
> 
>   >Since you're looking for a basic MIDI keyboard I would recommend the 
>   >Edirol PC-50.  It has a surprisingly nice keyboard and is VERY 
>   >affordable, yet doesn't have all the knobs and other clutter of most 
>   >controller keyboards.  It does have a USB connection for computer
use.  
>   >Connections come out of the side so it can be pushed right up
against 
>   >gear.  And it is simple and attractive looking:
>   >
>   >http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pc50.html
>   >
>   >I have an Emu Xboard 25 which does have aftertouch and a
nice-feeling 
>   >semi-weighted keyboard, but the overall appearance isn't great.  A 
>   >49-key version is also available.  If you're really into keyboard 
>   >"feel" this one is cool:
>   >
>   >http://www.emu.com/products/welcome.asp?category=532
>   >
>   >Ivan
>   >
>   >  
>   >
> 
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RE: [motm] Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

2005-10-20 by Greg James

I have an NR 25 but I haven't got my 650 yet. I picked the Novation because I needed a small
controller for desktop use and figured I'd get a synth engine while I'm at it. I played around with
competitors and for the price I thought the Novation had the best feel. The UI is a bit convoluted,
but I am using my PC to program it. I liked the key action the best of the sub-$500 controllers.
Most of the others are plain crap. For a full-size kb I think Paul's recommendation of StudioLogic
is right on. But I've already got some other vintage keyboards and am not ready with my MOTM
system to go with a dedicated controller. I like the NR 25 for my purpose and will be interested
seeing how it plays with the 650.
-Greg
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-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of kvltleader
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:16 AM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

Is anyone using a Novation Remote 25, 49 or 61.
If so , how is it.
Thanks
KL
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

Thanks for all the replies, everyone. I am leaning toward this one:

http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcrm80.html

People say the Edirol keyboards are good. And the software supports
Windows 98SE. Now all I need is my MOTM-650!

-Richard Brewster

ivancu@... wrote:

>Since you're looking for a basic MIDI keyboard I would recommend the
>Edirol PC-50. It has a surprisingly nice keyboard and is VERY
>affordable, yet doesn't have all the knobs and other clutter of most
>controller keyboards. It does have a USB connection for computer use.
>Connections come out of the side so it can be pushed right up against
>;gear. And it is simple and attractive looking:
>
>http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pc50.html
>
>I have an Emu Xboard 25 which does have aftertouch and a nice-feeling
>semi-weighted keyboard, but the overall appearance isn't great. A
>49-key version is also available. If you're really into keyboard
>"feel" this one is cool:
>
>http://www.emu.com/products/welcome.asp?category=532
>
>Ivan
>
>
>


RE: [motm] Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

2005-10-20 by Greg James

I should clarify: most sub $500 synths feel like crap to me - not plain controllers. There are several good
sub-$500 controllers...
-----Original Message-----
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From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg James
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:36 PM
To: kvltleader; motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [motm] Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

I have an NR 25 but I haven't got my 650 yet. I picked the Novation because I needed a small
controller for desktop use and figured I'd get a synth engine while I'm at it. I played around with
competitors and for the price I thought the Novation had the best feel. The UI is a bit convoluted,
but I am using my PC to program it. I liked the key action the best of the sub-$500 controllers.
Most of the others are plain crap. For a full-size kb I think Paul's recommendation of StudioLogic
is right on. But I've already got some other vintage keyboards and am not ready with my MOTM
system to go with a dedicated controller. I like the NR 25 for my purpose and will be interested
seeing how it plays with the 650.
-Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of kvltleader
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:16 AM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

Is anyone using a Novation Remote 25, 49 or 61.
If so , how is it.
Thanks
KL
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Re: What MIDI Controller for MOTM-650?

Thanks for all the replies, everyone. I am leaning toward this one:

http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pcrm80.html

People say the Edirol keyboards are good. And the software supports
Windows 98SE. Now all I need is my MOTM-650!

-Richard Brewster

ivancu@... wrote:

>Since you're looking for a basic MIDI keyboard I would recommend the
>Edirol PC-50. It has a surprisingly nice keyboard and is VERY
>affordable, yet doesn't have all the knobs and other clutter of most
>controller keyboards. It does have a USB connection for computer use.
>Connections come out of the side so it can be pushed right up against
>gear. And it is simple and attractive looking:
>
>http://www.edirol.com/products/info/pc50.html
>
>I have an Emu Xboard 25 which does have aftertouch and a nice-feeling
>semi-weighted keyboard, but the overall appearance isn't great. A
>49-key version is also available. If you're really into keyboard
>"feel" this one is cool:
>
>http://www.emu.com/products/welcome.asp?category=532
>
>Ivan
>
>
>