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2004-06-15 by J. Larry Hendry
All the sudden I cannot get to my Yahoo stuff. They changed the look of the sign in page I cannot get past it today. It just quits. Fortunately I get my MOTM list at both addresses. But, I do not get my other list mail that is Yahoo only. Is it just me or does anyone else know what is going on. Larry (I hate computers) Hendry
2004-06-16 by Scott E.
Hey Larry, I had a different problem with Y@hoo. It set my outbound account to "Hard Bounced" and was not delivering anything from the groups. You might check that. It may be related... Y@hoo has been upgrading email service last night and could have boogered the whole thing. D@mn, I hate Y@hoo. Scott Evans ================================================== J. Larry Hendry wrote: > All the sudden I cannot get to my Yahoo stuff. They changed the look of the > sign in page I cannot get past it today. It just quits. Fortunately I get > my MOTM list at both addresses. But, I do not get my other list mail that > is Yahoo only. Is it just me or does anyone else know what is going on. > > Larry (I hate computers) Hendry > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered". -Thomas Jefferson in 1802 in a letter to then Secretary of the Treasury, Albert Gallatin "The regional Federal Reserve banks are not government agencies. ...but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations." -- Lewis vs. United States, 680 F. 2d 1239 9th Circuit 1982
2004-06-16 by Richard Brewster
Yahoo was impacted today by a widespread Internet problem: http://isc.incidents.org/ I have not been able to log in to my Yahoo account this evening. I don't know if my problem is related to the above incident report. -Richard Brewster Scott E. wrote:
>Hey Larry, > >I had a different problem with Y@hoo. It set my outbound account to >"Hard Bounced" and was not delivering anything from the groups. You >might check that. It may be related... Y@hoo has been upgrading email >service last night and could have boogered the whole thing. D@mn, I hate >Y@hoo. > >Scott Evans >================================================== > >J. Larry Hendry wrote: > > >>All the sudden I cannot get to my Yahoo stuff. They changed the look of the >>sign in page I cannot get past it today. It just quits. Fortunately I get >>my MOTM list at both addresses. But, I do not get my other list mail that >>is Yahoo only. Is it just me or does anyone else know what is going on. >> >>Larry (I hate computers) Hendry >> >> >> >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
2004-06-16 by konkuro
Email worms, attacks on the net... Don't you just love these thoughtful people who are working so hard to make the world a better place? johnm
2004-06-16 by Thomas Hudson
The world would be a better place if people didn't use Microsoft crap. No Mac OS X or Linux boxes are vulnerable to this. We just have to bear the brunt of thousands of Windows boxes that are infected. Tomy's Law: 99 percent of people who say they hate computers use Windows. 99 percent of people who say they love computers use Linux or Mac OS X. > Don't you just love these thoughtful people who are working so hard > to make the world a better place? Don't you love the people that became billionaires by selling the least engineered solution and made it ubiquitous through questionable business practices and marketing. To make this relevant to the MOTM list, I chose MOTM for Paul's no compromise engineering, which is the opposite that M$ has EVER done. M$ is sort of like the insurance industry, I will cost X to fix it and it will cost Y to handle lawsuits, and Y is cheaper. Tomy
2004-06-16 by Overand
Lawsuits for unfair business practices, sure, but for bad software? Ever read a license agreement? They say they're not liable for anything. Thomas Hudson wrote: > will cost Y to handle lawsuits, and Y is cheaper.
2004-06-16 by Tony Karavidas
Did Microsoft write the viruses? No. It's a-hole hackers causing trouble. Microsoft just happens to be the big target. And yes, Mac and Linux are vulnerable. Check this http://www.hyperactivesw.com/Virus2.html, or this http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/a/macosxflaws.htm Linux has been hit with viruses for more than 3 years now: http://www.viruslist.com/eng/viruslist.html?id=4150 It's just that Microsoft is a bigger target. Anything is a target if security hasn't been specifically designed into the product. Bringing it back to MOTM: I could hack any of Paul's new microcontroller based products to do crazy things such as crashing constantly, locking up throw off the timing, etc. And just as easily, I'm sure many of you on this list could do it to my processor based products too. Why, because there is little reason for us to spend the time and money making these products hack proof. They simply aren't targets. BTW, for anyone on this list that owns an Expressionist, I've updated the firmware and it's on the site. There are now 4 LFOs (instead of the previous 3) and I've added several new waveforms. The list shown below was a quick copy from my source code so I wouldn't have to type them all here. dc.b 'Sine Bipolar ' ;0 Original dc.b 'Sine Unipolar ' ;1 dc.b 'Sine HalfWave ' ;2 dc.b 'Sine FullWave ' ;3 dc.b 'Triangle ' ;4 Original dc.b 'Square ' ;5 Original dc.b 'Square Bipolar' ;6 dc.b 'Pulse 25% ' ;7 dc.b 'Pulse 75% ' ;8 dc.b 'Saw Up ' ;9 Original dc.b 'Saw Down ' ;10 Original dc.b 'Random ' ;11 Original Tony
-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Hudson [mailto:thomas_hudson@...] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:59 PM To: MOTM litserv Subject: Re: [motm] Re: OT: Yahoo crap ?? The world would be a better place if people didn't use Microsoft crap. No Mac OS X or Linux boxes are vulnerable to this. We just have to bear the brunt of thousands of Windows boxes that are infected. Tomy's Law: 99 percent of people who say they hate computers use Windows. 99 percent of people who say they love computers use Linux or Mac OS X. > Don't you just love these thoughtful people who are working so hard > to make the world a better place? Don't you love the people that became billionaires by selling the least engineered solution and made it ubiquitous through questionable business practices and marketing. To make this relevant to the MOTM list, I chose MOTM for Paul's no compromise engineering, which is the opposite that M$ has EVER done. M$ is sort of like the insurance industry, I will cost X to fix it and it will cost Y to handle lawsuits, and Y is cheaper. Tomy Yahoo! Groups Links
2004-06-16 by Neil Bradley
> Did Microsoft write the viruses? No. It's a-hole hackers causing trouble. > Microsoft just happens to be the big target. And yes, Mac and Linux are > vulnerable. Check this http://www.hyperactivesw.com/Virus2.html, or this > http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/a/macosxflaws.htm Or the latest Linux hole that can be exploited by a userland application and lock the whole system. Affects almost all versions of x86 Linux: http://linuxreviews.org/news/2004-06-11_kernel_crash/index.html No problem under FreeBSD... > Bringing it back to MOTM: I could hack any of Paul's new microcontroller > based products to do crazy things such as crashing constantly, locking up > throw off the timing, etc. I'll challenge you to the prize of your choice if you successfully do that to the 650. ;-) -->Neil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Bradley "Your mistletoe is no match for my T.O.W. missile!" Synthcom Systems, Inc. - Santabot - Futurama ICQ #29402898
2004-06-16 by Tony Karavidas
Exactly! The source is even available and yet you get a comment like this: "It is unclear why these specific Gentoo patch sets of the 2.4.26 kernel are safe." Ooh a challenge! If you're using checksum or CRC only it won't be hard. I couldn't imagine you would implement simple or advanced encryption on the firmware download, but I could be wrong. Now that you've challenged me... ;) Tony
-----Original Message----- From: Neil Bradley [mailto:nb@...] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 12:40 AM To: Tony Karavidas Cc: 'MOTM litserv' Subject: RE: [motm] Re: OT: Yahoo crap ?? > Did Microsoft write the viruses? No. It's a-hole hackers causing trouble. > Microsoft just happens to be the big target. And yes, Mac and Linux are > vulnerable. Check this http://www.hyperactivesw.com/Virus2.html, or this > http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/a/macosxflaws.htm Or the latest Linux hole that can be exploited by a userland application and lock the whole system. Affects almost all versions of x86 Linux: http://linuxreviews.org/news/2004-06-11_kernel_crash/index.html No problem under FreeBSD... > Bringing it back to MOTM: I could hack any of Paul's new microcontroller > based products to do crazy things such as crashing constantly, locking up > throw off the timing, etc. I'll challenge you to the prize of your choice if you successfully do that to the 650. ;-) -->Neil ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Neil Bradley "Your mistletoe is no match for my T.O.W. missile!" Synthcom Systems, Inc. - Santabot - Futurama ICQ #29402898
2004-06-16 by mate_stubb
I can't avoid Windoze, but I can do my small part by avoiding Internet Exploder. Everyone should download the Mozilla Firefox browser. It's small, sleek, everything you need and nothing you don't, secure, and best of all more stable than IE even though it's only version 0.8. Moe --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Hudson <thomas_hudson@m...> wrote:
> > The world would be a better place if people didn't use Microsoft crap. > No Mac OS X or Linux boxes are vulnerable to this. We just have to bear > the brunt of thousands of Windows boxes that are infected. >
2004-06-16 by Paul Schreiber
Enough already! Paul S. has Mac and PCs. So what??!?
2004-06-16 by Mike Estee
> Tomy's Law: > 99 percent of people who say they hate computers use Windows. > 99 percent of people who say they love computers use Linux or Mac OS X. 95% of quoted statistics are made up on the spot... ...including this one ;) --mikes