MOTM

I'm considering purchasing another 420 filter kit.  Right now my only 
filter is a 420.  With two of them you can get -24 dB/oct LP and HP 
responses and -12 dB/oct notch.  Also you can duplicate the filter 
section of an MS-20 by running one high pass and one low pass in 
series.  Parallel processing and stereo fx would be another bonus.

Do you think it would be better to get a different filter, say the 
490 or 440 in order to have a different character available or would 
it be more fun to have two 420s?  Can anyone also possibly provide an 
audio sample of you just noodling about with two 420s.. I'd like to 
hear what sort of stuff is possible, especially when configured like 
the Korg MS-20 setup.  Thanks for any info.
-Jim

How would the 440 compare to a SCI Pro-One's filter?  I read the 440 
is based on the Prophet 5 Rev. 2 and the Pro-One is basically a 
single voice of a Prophet 5, so it would stand to reason that a 440 
sounds similar to a Pro-One's filter.  I'm not knowledgable on the 
different revisions of the Prophets, so my logic may be incorrect.  
Hopefully someone can clarify this.
-Jim

I believe a Pro-1 uses a CEM3320 filter, not a SSM2040 that the MOTM-440 is like.

Paul S.

Only the later Prophets (revs 3.x) used the same filter as the Pro One.
One of the reasons early Prophets are coveted is because they made extensive
use of the SSM chips as opposed to the CEMs that the later models had.

            -John

on 12/13/03 1:06 AM, foraxx at omgemag@... wrote:

> How would the 440 compare to a SCI Pro-One's filter?  I read the 440
> is based on the Prophet 5 Rev. 2 and the Pro-One is basically a
> single voice of a Prophet 5, so it would stand to reason that a 440
> sounds similar to a Pro-One's filter.  I'm not knowledgable on the
> different revisions of the Prophets, so my logic may be incorrect.
> Hopefully someone can clarify this.
> -Jim
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Re: [motm] Dual 420 filtersI would like to second this.  While the 420
offers the most "versitality" of function, the 440 is by far my favorite LP.
So, if you tend to use a lot of LP, I'd get a 440 before a 2nd 420.  But, I
have just about talked myself into the need for 2 of each type. :)
"Need" is such a relative word <snicker>

----- Original Message -----
From: Tobias Machine Head
I got one of all Paul's filters plus two 420. I got the two 420 with the
intention of using them as a band pass filter.
There is some use to having two of them I guess, but not quite as exiting as
I was hoping for. I rarely use the 420's in tandem. I'm even considering
selling one of them to make more room for other modules.
If your only filter is a 420 and you're thinking about buying another
filter, then I highly recommend the 440. I think it's hands down the best
sounding filter ever! Also It's quite nice together with the 420 running
high pass.

Tobias

>I believe a Pro-1 uses a CEM3320 filter, not a SSM2040 that the 
>MOTM-440 is like.

I have a Pro-1, it has a CEM3320 filter chip, it doesn't sound the 
same as the MOTM-440. The MOTM-440 is sweeter.

I agree with the fact that a 440 is your best next investment (although
I haven't built mine yet) but you might find the following useful:

I couldn't get the basslines I like from my MS20 by just using the lpf,
it lacked bass. Putting the hpf cutoff on about 9 o'clock and the hpf
resonance on about 3 o'clock added some serious bass to the sound. If
two 420's behave exactly like this I think it's worth getting a second
to get more bass, after you get a 440 and 490 :)

Krimo

-----Original Message-----
From: foraxx [mailto:omgemag@...] 
Sent: zaterdag 13 december 2003 0:35
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Dual 420 filters

I'm considering purchasing another 420 filter kit.  Right now my only 
filter is a 420.  With two of them you can get -24 dB/oct LP and HP 
responses and -12 dB/oct notch.  Also you can duplicate the filter 
section of an MS-20 by running one high pass and one low pass in 
series.  Parallel processing and stereo fx would be another bonus.

Do you think it would be better to get a different filter, say the 
490 or 440 in order to have a different character available or would 
it be more fun to have two 420s?  Can anyone also possibly provide an 
audio sample of you just noodling about with two 420s.. I'd like to 
hear what sort of stuff is possible, especially when configured like 
the Korg MS-20 setup.  Thanks for any info.
-Jim



 

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On Dec 12, 2003, at 10:24 PM, J. Larry Hendry wrote:

> Re: [motm] Dual 420 filtersI would like to second this.  While the 420
> offers the most "versitality" of function, the 440 is by far my 
> favorite LP.

I'll second that. I tend to only use the 420 as a high pass. For low 
pass, nothing sounds as good to me as the 440's (I have a pair.) I'm 
also a huge fan of the 410, but it's a slightly different beast.

--mikes