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In a message dated 3/4/01 10:18:56 AM, bigd@... writes:

<< Anyone know a good source for standard rack screws ? >>

http://www.middleatlantic.com/rackac/hardware/hrdwr1.htm

Middle Atlantic Audio.  You can buy the sets of their black screws with nylon 
washers at Guitar Center and pro audio stores.  These are high-quality screws 
and washers.

Ivan

Anyone know a good source for standard rack screws ?
Thx
Jim

I was hoping to go to the hardware store if i could actually,  : )  GC not may
fave, anyone know what size to get ?
Jim

ivancu@... wrote:

> In a message dated 3/4/01 10:18:56 AM, bigd@... writes:
>
> << Anyone know a good source for standard rack screws ? >>
>
> http://www.middleatlantic.com/rackac/hardware/hrdwr1.htm
>
> Middle Atlantic Audio.  You can buy the sets of their black screws with nylon
> washers at Guitar Center and pro audio stores.  These are high-quality screws
> and washers.
>
> Ivan
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

In a message dated 3/4/01 10:27:07 AM, bigd@... writes:

<< I was hoping to go to the hardware store if i could actually,  : )  GC not 
may
fave, anyone know what size to get ? >>

10-32 is the size; 3/4" is a typical length.

Ivan

# 10/32  I have found the black ones with Hex heads at both Lowes and
Furrows.  They are a bit pricey this way.  But, its fine if you only need a
few in a hurry
Larry H

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Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] OT: Rack screws ?


I was hoping to go to the hardware store if i could actually,  : )  GC not
may
fave, anyone know what size to get ?
Jim

At 1:24 PM -0500 03/04/01, ivancu@... wrote:
>In a message dated 3/4/01 10:18:56 AM, bigd@... writes:
>
><< Anyone know a good source for standard rack screws ? >>
>
>http://www.middleatlantic.com/rackac/hardware/hrdwr1.htm
>
>Middle Atlantic Audio.  You can buy the sets of their black screws with
>nylon washers at Guitar Center and pro audio stores.  These are
>>high-quality screws and washers.

I think I have a bunch of those.  I also have a bunch of screws that came
with various racks from various manufactures including Mid Atlantic...

They all suck.

They suck because they are all made out of aluminum.  Aluminum is soft.
The racks rails are steel.  So you have a soft dissimilar metal with a
large weight hanging at 90 degree angle to the rotation of the threads.
When you go to unscrew them, their heads snap right off.  I must have had a
dozen aluminum rack screws break over the years, forcing me to use a drill,
extractor, vise grips, or some other tool to get them out.

If the slots in the Phillips head look a little worn, I immediately throw
the screw out and replace it with a new screw.  I do this knowing that this
new screw will eventually go bad and need to be replaced with an even newer
screw.  One bastard goes in and another one comes out.


The only decent rack screws I have came with my Aphex Dominator II --
they're brass.  If I decide to sell the Dominator, I'm keeping the screws :)

In a message dated 3/4/01 12:20:33 PM, mark@... writes:

<< I also have a bunch of screws that came
with various racks from various manufactures including Mid Atlantic...
They suck because they are all made out of aluminum. >>

The Middle Atlantic screws are definitely steel.  Actually, I've never seen 
aluminum rack screws, which would obviously be unsuitable for holding heavy 
equipment in a rack.  I've used the Middle Atlantic screws on 84-pound Crest 
8001 amps in racks on world tours and have never had a problem.

Ivan

At 5:16 PM -0500 03/04/01, ivancu@... wrote:
>
>In a message dated 3/4/01 12:20:33 PM, mark@... writes:
>
><< I also have a bunch of screws that came
>with various racks from various manufactures including Mid Atlantic...
>They suck because they are all made out of aluminum. >>
>
>The Middle Atlantic screws are definitely steel.  Actually, I've never seen
>aluminum rack screws, which would obviously be unsuitable for holding heavy
>equipment in a rack.  I've used the Middle Atlantic screws on 84-pound
>Crest 8001 amps in racks on world tours and have never had a problem.

I've used them with heavy equipment as well, but the screw I have fromMid
Atlantic are definitely not steel.  Maybe they sell two kinds of screws.
Can you pick them up with a magnet??  If you ever get a chance, put one of
the ones you have to a grinding wheel and tell me what the sparks look like.

In a message dated 3/4/01 2:41:54 PM, mark@... writes:

<< I've used them with heavy equipment as well, but the screw I have fromMid
Atlantic are definitely not steel.  Maybe they sell two kinds of screws.
Can you pick them up with a magnet??  If you ever get a chance, put one of
the ones you have to a grinding wheel and tell me what the sparks look like. 
>>

Could be.  The Middle Atlantic screws I have are definitely magnetic (I use 
them on my Makita and they stick to the magnetic bits) and if they get and 
stay wet then they rust in places where the black finish is scratched.

I have seen some cheesy rack screws included with a lot of product.  Even in 
my SKB cases (not for tour use) I don't use their screws but use the Middle 
Atlantic ones instead.  Know what you mean about the brass screws though; 
they're great, but hard to find.

Ivan