MOTM

Guys, here's a great Emu modular link..lots of info and nice pics.  
Some neat module features and some surprising similarities with 
MOTM.  (Surprise or coincidence Paul..?? : )
http://www.siliconbreakdown.com/emu.html
Have fun lusting.
Some interesting tidbits from the site.  The Emu modular used 
conductive plastic pots!!!!  Cool..  I also like how there was a 
common buss between modules and the keyboard in certain areas for the 
real common patches.  Really makes the synth/keyboard a "System".  
Did you know that they also offered a rackmount frame for their 
modules and a tape back-up module too!!
I'm impressed..

~Steve M

In a message dated 01-02-18 23:02:57 EST, you write:

<< Some interesting tidbits from the site.   >>


steve,
certainly emu was the motm of their day. they had very solid engineering and 
construction philosophies.
best,
dave v.

--- In motm@y..., improv@p... wrote:
> >certainly emu was the motm of their day. they had very solid 
engineering and
> >construction philosophies.
> >best,
> >dave v.
> >
> Oh god, please, I hope this doesn't mean Paul's gonna start 
building .........
> 
> SAMPLERS!!!!
> 

Samplers? You mean Emu made samplers too? <VBG>

Moe

>certainly emu was the motm of their day. they had very solid engineering and
>construction philosophies.
>best,
>dave v.
>
Oh god, please, I hope this doesn't mean Paul's gonna start building .........

SAMPLERS!!!!

____________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@...
New & Improv Media
http://www.newandimprov.com
Now available: Admiral Twinkle Devil: Wabi Dub
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In a message dated 01-02-19 22:19:12 EST, you write:

<< 
 Oh god, please, I hope this doesn't mean Paul's gonna start building 
.........
 
 SAMPLERS!!!!
 
  >>


dave,
key part there was the " of their day"......... i meant it to preclude the 
emulators and all the little boxes since then. yes, i`m a heathen but i don`t 
even think of those things when i think of emu, just the modulars.
best,
dave v.

----- Original Message -----

From: <improv@...>
Oh god, please, I hope this doesn't mean Paul's gonna start building
.........
SAMPLERS!!!!

yep.  right after he finishes his all tube VCA.
<snicker>
Larry H

Speaking of old modular circuits.  That circuit Dave promised arrived - the
Serge peak and trough thing.
I'll post it soon.
LH
----- Original Message -----
From: <davevosh@...>

--- In motm@y..., revtor@a... wrote:
> Guys, here's a great Emu modular link..lots of info and nice pics.  
> Some neat module features and some surprising similarities with 
> MOTM.  (Surprise or coincidence Paul..?? : )

I found this site a year or more ago. I'm disappointed to see that he 
hasn't added any of the pics he's missing since then. I still have my 
Dec. '78 Emu technical catalog, which is the source for all that 
site's pics and text.

Emu was a class outfit all the way. They had the finest user 
interface I've ever seen, bar none. Their component selection, the 
mechanical construction, and the designs were top notch - head and 
shoulders above anything else available at the time. It was expensive 
as hell, but Dave and Scott would sell you the essential circuits as 
potted submodules for WAY cheaper, which allowed me to build my first 
synth in '73. The only electronics experience I previously had was 
working on Hammonds, but Dave introduced me to the mysteries of 
summing node opamps over the phone - talk about tech support!

Hmmm - finest parts, great design and tech support - yep, that sounds 
like the MOTM philosophy all right.

The only complaints I've ever heard leveled against the Emu modular 
was that the sound was "too clean", and that it was so damn big. 
Well, it didn't sound like a Moog, but I always loved the sound of 
mine. The size resulted from their philosophy of input and output 
mixers on each module, and you sure didn't care about the large size 
when you found that patching it was a dream.

Are there echos of Emu modules in MOTM design? Well, I hope so. In 
the early days of this list, we debated user interface design of 
various modules much more avidly than we tend to now. I'm sure I made 
people weary extolling the features on the Emu version of this module 
or that. The lag processor is an example of an Emu influenced module 
(features not design), but with an extra MOTM twist. If you look at 
my SuperMoe sequencer designs, they are heavily influenced by the 
modular Emu sequencer approach. It's unfortunate that the site 
doesn't have pics of the sequencer modules up.

Moe

i've had a chance to play with the UCSC system at the top of this 
page: http://www.siliconbreakdown.com/emumore.htm

at the time, i knew absolutely nothing about subtractive synthesis 
and couldn't really do anything.  so i asked the friend who'd got me 
into the lab if he could just set up a basic patch for me to play 
around with.  he couldn't, so he got some other guy.  that guy was a 
little more sucessful, but it wasn't until he'd dragged 
five "electronic music" students in that we even got a working patch, 
and even then they couldn't sort out any envelope.  it was this 
experience and that machine that galvanized my resolve to learn 
classic synthesis.

thanks to whoever posted that link.  

alex

In a message dated 2/20/2001 11:05:33 AM, mate_stubb@... writes:

>Are there echos of Emu modules in MOTM design? Well, I hope so. In 
>the early days of this list, we debated user interface design of 
>various modules much more avidly than we tend to now. 

Ahhhh, those were the days! It seems to have taken Paul more than a year to 
get over that output/CV mixer module debate.

I'm sure I made 
>people weary extolling the features on the Emu version of this module 
>or that.

I was with you all the way with the Emu since that was one of the first 
modulars I'd used too. I think the MOTM input and CV mixers are a good 
example of an Emu influence on the MOTM philosophy -- and of course Bradley's 
input on all the various modules as well.

Apologies to Ken T. for misspelling his name on many recent e-mails.
JB

--- In motm@y..., jwbarlow@a... wrote:
> Ahhhh, those were the days! It seems to have taken Paul more than a 
> year to get over that output/CV mixer module debate.
> 

I'm sure my proposal to have a retractible master volume knob in 3x2 
mode had nothing to do with Paul's subsequent mental breakdown...

nyuk nyuk!

Moe

In a message dated 01-02-19 22:41:53 EST, you write:

<< That circuit Dave promised arrived - the
 Serge peak and trough thing.
 I'll post it soon. >>


larry,
glad you got it. feel free to disseminate it as you will. serge gave it to me 
years ago after the module was discontinued and rex hasn`t re-added it to his 
catalogue so i don`t think any intellectual property rights are in question.
best,
dave v.

mate_stubb@... writes:

>>Emu was a class outfit all the way. They had the finest user interface I've 
ever seen, bar none.<<

Yikes.  They didn't even have tick marks or numbering around their knobs.  
Thumbs down on that alone.  Forget about accurately writing down patches and 
reproducing them.  Unfinished metal panels and knobs that look like something 
off a 1970's Radio Shack tuner just adds to its bland homebrew look.  I 
believe the Polyfusion was probably more straight forward and clear as far as 
"user interface" goes.  However Emu did have a good module selection and 
feature set.

-Elhardt

The 1978 Emu catalog including sequencer modules is located at Emu's web
site, url is http://www.emu.com/products/archives/archives.html .  Look for
"Emu Modular in English."  The file converts to a pdf format.

John Loffink
microtonal@...

----- Original Message -----

From: <mate_stubb@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:04 PM
Subject: [motm] Re: Great Emu link ...


> --- In motm@y..., revtor@a... wrote:
> > Guys, here's a great Emu modular link..lots of info and nice pics.
> > Some neat module features and some surprising similarities with
> > MOTM.  (Surprise or coincidence Paul..?? : )
>
> I found this site a year or more ago. I'm disappointed to see that he
> hasn't added any of the pics he's missing since then. I still have my
> Dec. '78 Emu technical catalog, which is the source for all that
> site's pics and text.
>
> Emu was a class outfit all the way. They had the finest user
> interface I've ever seen, bar none. Their component selection, the
> mechanical construction, and the designs were top notch - head and
> shoulders above anything else available at the time. It was expensive
> as hell, but Dave and Scott would sell you the essential circuits as
> potted submodules for WAY cheaper, which allowed me to build my first
> synth in '73. The only electronics experience I previously had was
> working on Hammonds, but Dave introduced me to the mysteries of
> summing node opamps over the phone - talk about tech support!
>
> Hmmm - finest parts, great design and tech support - yep, that sounds
> like the MOTM philosophy all right.
>
> The only complaints I've ever heard leveled against the Emu modular
> was that the sound was "too clean", and that it was so damn big.
> Well, it didn't sound like a Moog, but I always loved the sound of
> mine. The size resulted from their philosophy of input and output
> mixers on each module, and you sure didn't care about the large size
> when you found that patching it was a dream.
>
> Are there echos of Emu modules in MOTM design? Well, I hope so. In
> the early days of this list, we debated user interface design of
> various modules much more avidly than we tend to now. I'm sure I made
> people weary extolling the features on the Emu version of this module
> or that. The lag processor is an example of an Emu influenced module
> (features not design), but with an extra MOTM twist. If you look at
> my SuperMoe sequencer designs, they are heavily influenced by the
> modular Emu sequencer approach. It's unfortunate that the site
> doesn't have pics of the sequencer modules up.
>
> Moe
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