MOTM

i've had a chance to play with the UCSC system at the top of this 
page: http://www.siliconbreakdown.com/emumore.htm

at the time, i knew absolutely nothing about subtractive synthesis 
and couldn't really do anything.  so i asked the friend who'd got me 
into the lab if he could just set up a basic patch for me to play 
around with.  he couldn't, so he got some other guy.  that guy was a 
little more sucessful, but it wasn't until he'd dragged 
five "electronic music" students in that we even got a working patch, 
and even then they couldn't sort out any envelope.  it was this 
experience and that machine that galvanized my resolve to learn 
classic synthesis.

thanks to whoever posted that link.  

alex