MOTM

I don't know if anybody is remotely interested in my case building 
saga, but there are some new pics up at:

http://motm.retrosynth.com/moe_stuff/case_pics/

I cut some side profiles out of scrap wood just to live with them for 
a few days. The "Finger of MOTM" is the wildest looking, but also the 
hardest to build. The other one in the same pic was described by a 
Stooge critic as looking too "top heavy", so I took a saw to it and 
tapered the panel slope subtly backward. The result can be seen in 
the second profile pic, and I'm pretty pleased with the result. 

Next: temporarily attach some rails and try out the ergonomics!

Moe

Ooh. I like the "Finger of MOTM", symbolically giving the finger
to digital synths with giant walls of menus hidden behind the 
peep hole of a two line, forty character display.

Tomy


mate_stubb@... wrote:

> 
> I don't know if anybody is remotely interested in my case building
> saga, but there are some new pics up at:
> 
> http://motm.retrosynth.com/moe_stuff/case_pics/
> 
> I cut some side profiles out of scrap wood just to live with them for
> a few days. The "Finger of MOTM" is the wildest looking, but also the
> hardest to build. The other one in the same pic was described by a
> Stooge critic as looking too "top heavy", so I took a saw to it and
> tapered the panel slope subtly backward. The result can be seen in
> the second profile pic, and I'm pretty pleased with the result.
> 
> Next: temporarily attach some rails and try out the ergonomics!
> 
> Moe
>

I'll throw in my entry for "My case can beat up your case"

http://www.hylander.com/images/hymotm.jpg

Not the greatest picture, but I'll work on another when I add the next row 
of Mods.

-dave-

Yeah!  Very cool!  12U wide?  And 10U high (2 X 5U)?

What are the yellow and green LEDs on the EGs?  Other EG mods?

What are the custom 1U panels with 4 1/4" jacks top and bottom with the blue
connector in the middle?

Seems a bit dangerous at the top of the stairs like that.

Lovely macreme wallhanging.  ;-)

Now all you need is some patch cords.  Ha!

Cheers!
Shemp

>
> I'll throw in my entry for "My case can beat up your case"
>
> http://www.hylander.com/images/hymotm.jpg
>
> Not the greatest picture, but I'll work on another when I add the
> next row
> of Mods.
>
> -dave-

At 09:32 PM 2/17/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Yeah!  Very cool!  12U wide?  And 10U high (2 X 5U)?

Yes, and the 2 900's are mounted on the back of the lower case.


>What are the yellow and green LEDs on the EGs?  Other EG mods?

They are Dave Bradley's 800 mod for EG output a gate signal in.


>What are the custom 1U panels with 4 1/4" jacks top and bottom with the blue
>connector in the middle?

That's the interface for my Moog 956 Ribbon controller and 959 X-Y joystick 
controller.  The jacks are CV and Trigger out for both.  The CV has both + 
and - output.



>Seems a bit dangerous at the top of the stairs like that.

It's safe believe me.


>Lovely macreme wallhanging.  ;-)
>
>Now all you need is some patch cords.  Ha!

Don't need any, got about 125 from Mr. Wacky Kovacky........

-dave-

Cool! An arms race<g>! That looks great, Dave. I spot a Wavefolder, 2 
MOTM-320s modded (with mults?) and what's that 1U thing with the 
white light?

I bought some very nice birch veneered 3/4" plywood today for my 
case, along with birch veneer edging strips, a DeWalt plate joiner 
(biscuit cutter), long furniture clamps, jars of biscuits, stain, pre-
stain wood conditioner, and polyurethane finish. I am SO BROKE!

Moe

--- In motm@y..., Dave Hylander <david@h...> wrote:
> I'll throw in my entry for "My case can beat up your case"
> 
> http://www.hylander.com/images/hymotm.jpg
> 
> Not the greatest picture, but I'll work on another when I add the 
next row 

> of Mods.
> 
> -dave-

Nice looking case Dave.  However, you now have additional responsibility.
We must have information about the modules in the case we may not recognize.
Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Hylander <david@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] my case can beat up your case, continued


I'll throw in my entry for "My case can beat up your case"

http://www.hylander.com/images/hymotm.jpg

Not the greatest picture, but I'll work on another when I add the next row
of Mods.

-dave-

OK Dave, so the green light on the ADSR I understand, but the yellow one,
what is that??  And the 1U with the white light, huh??  Oh, and I noticed
that with all those esoteric modules, you don't have a 120.  What's up with
that??

George

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Dave Hylander [SMTP:david@...]
> Sent:	Saturday, February 17, 2001 9:25 PM
> To:	motm@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	Re: [motm] my case can beat up your case, continued
> 
> I'll throw in my entry for "My case can beat up your case"
> 
> http://www.hylander.com/images/hymotm.jpg
> 
> Not the greatest picture, but I'll work on another when I add the next row
> 
> of Mods.
> 
> -dave-
> 
> 
> 
>

Dave,
Very nice cabinets with a very nice motm-based setup.  Do the individual
cabinets just 'sit' on top of each other or do you have them fastened
together?
Jeff

On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Dave Hylander wrote:

> I'll throw in my entry for "My case can beat up your case"
> 
> http://www.hylander.com/images/hymotm.jpg
> 
> Not the greatest picture, but I'll work on another when I add the next row 
> of Mods.
> 
> -dave-
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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They just sit on top of each other.  I put on some small urethane feet 
which prevents the cabinets from sliding when patching.

-dave-



At 10:30 AM 2/18/01 -0600, you wrote:

>Very nice cabinets with a very nice motm-based setup.  Do the individual
>cabinets just 'sit' on top of each other or do you have them fastened
>together?

The yellow light is gate on.

The 1U module is a Synth.com Instrument interface (preamp & envelope 
follower) that I MOTMized.  I replaced the cheap panel, pots, jacks with 
MOTM equivalents.   It works, but when Paul does one, the Synth.com 
goes.  I'm not very impressed with the quality or operation of the interface.

The 120 is just left of the instrument interface module.

-dave-

At 09:29 PM 2/17/01 -0800, you wrote:

>OK Dave, so the green light on the ADSR I understand, but the yellow one,
>what is that??  And the 1U with the white light, huh??  Oh, and I noticed
>that with all those esoteric modules, you don't have a 120.  What's up with
>that??

At 03:44 AM 2/18/01 +0000, you wrote:
>Cool! An arms race<g>! That looks great, Dave. I spot a Wavefolder, 2
>MOTM-320s modded (with mults?) and what's that 1U thing with the
>white light?

Thanks, I added mults to the 320.  There's a lot of open panel on the 320, 
and I'm trying to avoid dedicated mults as much as possible.  Leaves space 
open for the real stuff.  The 1U thing is a synth.com instrument interface 
which I MOTMized.  The "white led" is actually on of the NKK mini toggle 
switch catching some light.  As soon as Paul does something similar, I'll 
trash this one.


>I bought some very nice birch veneered 3/4" plywood today for my
>case, along with birch veneer edging strips, a DeWalt plate joiner
>(biscuit cutter), long furniture clamps, jars of biscuits, stain, pre-
>stain wood conditioner, and polyurethane finish. I am SO BROKE!


I have one of the Dewalt plate joiners myself, and it is great.  I didn't 
have to fool with edging strips though as I used 3/4" solid oak. :)

-dave-

Thanks for the explanation.  Looks like mults in the LFO - a great idea and
efficient use of panel space!  I have to say, that is one sweet setup.  The
case is quite striking.  I especially like how you encapsulated the kenton
pro, a patchbay and what looks to be an 8-chan mixer in the bottom unit.  A
very nice job, indeed.

George

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Dave Hylander [SMTP:david@...]
> Sent:	Sunday, February 18, 2001 11:41 AM
> To:	motm@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	RE: [motm] my case can beat up your case, continued
> 
> The yellow light is gate on.
> 
> The 1U module is a Synth.com Instrument interface (preamp & envelope 
> follower) that I MOTMized.  I replaced the cheap panel, pots, jacks with 
> MOTM equivalents.   It works, but when Paul does one, the Synth.com 
> goes.  I'm not very impressed with the quality or operation of the
> interface.
> 
> The 120 is just left of the instrument interface module.
> 
> -dave-
> 
> At 09:29 PM 2/17/01 -0800, you wrote:
> >OK Dave, so the green light on the ADSR I understand, but the yellow one,
> >what is that??  And the 1U with the white light, huh??  Oh, and I noticed
> >that with all those esoteric modules, you don't have a 120.  What's up
> with
> >that??
> 
> 
> 
>

Since we are on the subject of Synth.com and I happen to own this same
module, I have a couple of comments for those that may have looked at this
stuff.  I bought three of them, just to see what they were about, and
quickly fill in some holes in my MOTM system while waiting for the real
thing.  I bought the instrument interface, the VCA, and the panner / fader.

In general, my comments about the instrument interface would echo Dave's
very closely.  The VCA and the panner fader are better performers, but still
suffer from cheap component syndrome in my opinion.  My biggest complaints
are the cheap jacks.  I am absolutely spoiled to the 112A and will never use
imposters.  The pots are OK now.   But, carbon is what carbon is.

I do have to give Roger kudos on a  few things though (even if I don't agree
with his strategy).   He made them cheap to solder and assemble with his
"everything plugs in" approach and universal switch jack and pot harness
components.  However, this is also my second complaint -- too many
connections prone to failure.  I prefer the painstaking route of hand wiring
these from PCB to panel component as on MOTM.

The result is that Roger delivers a PAiA-like-quality module already
assembled at a kit like price.   He does deliver a lot for $80.  And, I
think he has fit well the target market for a lower price range for people
who don't build.  It will never compete with MOTM.  In my opinion, these
products are simple aimed at a different target market.

So, like Dave, when I get my MOTM VCA / panner things (I will get two no
doubt), the synth.com stuff will hit e-bay.
Larry Hendry

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Hylander <david@...>
The 1U module is a Synth.com Instrument interface
(preamp & envelope follower) that I MOTMized.
I replaced the cheap panel, pots, jacks with MOTM
equivalents.   It works, but when Paul does one,
the Synth.com goes.  I'm not very impressed with
the quality or operation of the interface.