RE: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-19 by Doug Wellington
... OK, before I slink back and hide under my rock again, I ll say two things: 1) I m not sure what you mean by DO SOMETHING with them, as I have made scores
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FW: [motm] Update
2012-08-19 by Wheaton, Simon
May 1...2013? ________________________________ From: Paul Schreiber [synth1@airmail.net] Sent: Monday 30 January 2012 05:56 To: MOTM List Subject: [motm]
Re: Hotbed of DIY activity
2012-08-19 by jneilnyc
... Most of the discussion of investment in MOTM has not been about monetary value so much as commitment to a growing and evolving platform. You invest by
5U Cloud Generator/MT
2012-08-19 by Paul Schreiber
I recall my Dad saying, after getting off the phone with you some couple years ago, that it sounded like your concept for the smaller-format Morphong
Re: An important point to remember
2012-08-19 by wjhall11
Dad and I first fell in among you when I was thirteen. I was the one who found your site, Paul, on line and pointed it out to my Dad when he was bemoaning the
Re: Hotbed of DIY activity
2012-08-19 by Oats Chamberlain
MUFF ADDICT here - cats n knobs, what more could u want... as a noob watching this convo from the sidelines - its a bit disheartening seeing all this how
Some of my favorite Kickstarters
2012-08-19 by Paul Schreiber
Solder 2 chips on a board, get $90,000 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digistump/digispark-the-tiny-arduino-ena bled-usb-dev-board?ref=category Something I
Hotbed of DIY activity
2012-08-19 by Paul Schreiber
http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=17 I would say this is where a lot of synth DIY is done/discussed. BTW: Muff s is a great forum for all things
RE: [motm] Kickstarter?
2012-08-19 by Paul Schreiber
www.kickstarter.com a) it s for projects b) there is a large and detailed FAQ there, check it out. c) money is not donated. It is pledged towards a $$$ goal
Re: [motm] Kickstarter?
2012-08-19 by Kenneth Elhardt
What exactly is Kickstarter? Some months ago 60 Minutes did a story on some internet site where people could donate money to other people who wanted to start
An important point to remember
2012-08-18 by Paul Schreiber
For many years I did not have to worry about whether or not a new MOTM module would sell. The reason: Curtis IC sales. All of the module R&D budget was 100%
Spirit of DIY > kit building > soldering pots to a panel?
2012-08-18 by Paul Schreiber
And really, probably to really anger some, but put a smile on the face of others: DIY really comes down to: eventually learning how to layout and make your
RE: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Greg James
And you ve been sitting on all the old Stooge panel silk screens for years with no sensibility to give them to somebody (i.e. Scott at Bridechamber) who might
Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by rrossen08
Definitely yes Ken - modulars do have unique and distinct things of their own regarding the human interface aspect. But that all does chisel down to sound
Euro sound quality?
2012-08-18 by Paul Schreiber
(That said, I really don t think my Euro system sounds as good as my MOTM system.) Unless you (currently.cough) have an all Cwejman system (see
Re: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Andre Majorel
... A modular costs more than an equivalent mono synth so why get one ? For some, part of the reason is that they expect to be able to upgrade it by buying new
FW: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Ken Tkacs
... I actually don t agree with this statement, even though on the surface it seems almost obvious. A synthesizer is a musical instrument, and it s human
Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by rrossen08
Interesting back and forth going on here, for what seems to be the same type of back and forth going on 10 plus years ago, but now mostly about
RE: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Doug Wellington
Fascinating to watch this conversation. I for one committed to the 5U format completely a while ago and don t plan to switch. I can see the practicality of
Kickstarter?
2012-08-18 by Paul Schreiber
... first 3 Kickstarters are successful. Does this mean they ARE on Kickstart? Because I searched and found nothing. No, I am just saying what my plans are
Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by jneilnyc
... This is my point *exactly*. ... And why do some people think this is a bad thing ? I don t. Paul S.
RE: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Paul Schreiber
The point, which you ve totally missed, is that in recognition of the fact that you don t want to have 2 sets of documentation and 2 sets of boards to keep
Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by jneilnyc
(apologies to anyone who got this more than once ... thank Yahoo...) ... Adding my 2 bits as someone who wants diversity in the MOTM format and has no vested
FW: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Ken Tkacs
... first 3 Kickstarters are successful. Does this mean they ARE on Kickstart? Because I searched and found nothing.
RE: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by John L Rice
... Like 2005 maybe? I think it was last year? Or 2010?? He came out with the two quantizer modules. John
RE: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by J.D. McEachin
... The point, which you ve totally missed, is that in recognition of the fact that you don t want to have 2 sets of documentation and 2 sets of boards to keep
RE: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Greg James
I appreciate that and now I need 24 more people to do the same :-) In the first 2 months, please. So put up, or. Post a link to your Kickstarts and let the
RE: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Greg James
Ken, I wasn t referring to all of the DIY and MOTM-conforming folks (Stooges, Oakley, Scott, yourself, etc.) who HAVE made and offered these conversions. I was
RE: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Paul Schreiber
But I am *hugely* disappointed that I cannot buy some of these cool new MOTM modules that are coming out in other formats. I don t know how to say this any
RE: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by John L Rice
Hi Greg, I don t think you ll have to worry, only if you want to sell it in the near future. If you wait until it gets to vintage status, ORIGINAL Synth Tech
FW: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Ken Tkacs
... other formats to MOTM? This is news to me.--Greg Converting other modules to MOTM format was all the rage a decade ago. For me it started with finding old
Re: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by John Loffink
I designed a simple 1U panel with a power switch and two x6 mults in Front Panel Designer and mounted the power supplies and power connector boards in the
Re: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by George Kisslak
I think there is a lot of venting and hand waving going on here. All with valid reasons. But at this point the 5U MOTM star is fading, for me anyway. But I
RE: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Greg James
When I think of the THOUSANDS of dollars/hours I spent adapting modules of other formats (Euro/Frac/DotCOM) into MOTM format, buying custom panels, etc., it
RE: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Greg James
John, This is my personal situation, so I m not trying to generalize this to anyone else. I made a decision to standardize on the MOTM format back in 2003.
FYI: The "old" MOTM/Synth Tech site seems hosed up this morning :-(
2012-08-18 by John L Rice
Maybe there isn t going to be anything new there, but we still like to look! ;-) John
FW: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Ken Tkacs
... $399 each. You don t have to do anything except plug it in. I would put them on Kickstarter, and you pay NOTHING until the project is funded. If there is
RE: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Jim Black
Paul and John make great points. Over this transition period - I have transitioned myself... to Oakley and Bridechamber. The Oakley stuff is great. UK Paul and
RE: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Paul Schreiber
Ten-plus years ago I was one of the people crying for more weird modules. We started to get tantalizing hints about things that eventually became the Cloud
FW: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Ken Tkacs
I m not sure I fully understand the thrust of this conversation. Is it solely about MOTM 5U not being available in *kit* form? Or about being available in the
RE: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Greg James
Apologies to John - I didn t see his response until just now. Yeah - what he said :-) -Greg _____ From: Greg James [mailto:gjames@kddlab.com] Sent: Saturday,
RE: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Greg James
Any answer to my question below? If the module is compelling enough, I have no problem with $400. I just don t believe there s enough demand at $400 to reach
Re: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by (no author)
All I have to say is that I support whatever Paul S. decides to do. I recognize that analog modules are a niche market with inherently unstable suppliers.
Re: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by (no author)
ll I have to say is that I support whatever Paul S. decides to do. I recognize that analog modules are a niche market with inherently unstable suppliers. Many
Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by edibennardo
I think the only reason why some of us are feeling frustrated comes from the awareness that there won t be any new MOTM modules in a MOTM format, there s a
RE: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by John L Rice
I seriously don t get why people are upset indicating that they invested many thousands in their awesome MOTM synths and now they are screwed because there
RE: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Paul Schreiber
Were it not for us 5U MOTM customers that helped Paul launch SynthTech, there wouldn t be MOTM in the Euro format. I don t think that s true. Or fair. The only
Re: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Tom Farrand
... All, I m with Jeffrey on this one! This is how I see the current situation: Were it not for us 5U MOTM customers that helped Paul launch SynthTech, there
RE: [motm] Re: 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by John L Rice
It would be great and I d be all for it but I wouldn t be surprised if the partially finished Euro board would cost us almost as much as a finished euro module
RE: [motm] 5xx series in a MOTM format
2012-08-18 by Greg James
A 50 unit minimum looks to me like an awfully high bar to reach. Especially at $400 per. And the rest of the criteria isn t clear to me. Are you saying you