MOTM

This is excellent Tony.  What is the circuit based on?

Things on my wish list:

	* manual trigger button (Paul has unfortunately left this off of the LFO
and EG)

	* delay stage (too costly to do with existing controls--i.e. you would lose
a stage or two for the delay as opposed to a dedicated delay).

	* Ditch the LEDs (except for on the output as suggested)

	* Use MOTM panels from Paul

	* Use MOTM-type parts (and design) whenever possible

I guess these are in anticipation of you releasing a kit which you alluded
to.  A 4U module is fine with me to use the MOTM size Alco knobs.   Perhaps
this also allows CV control of some of the stages (either time or level or
both).

Is a kit a potential reality?  If so...  Estimated cost?  Estimated release
date?

Cheers!
Shemp

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:tony@...]
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 11:21 AM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [motm] MOTM compatible module
>
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> The TCV is a "Time Control Voltage." It can shrink or stretch the
> envelope,
> while keeping the relationship of the 15 knobs.
>
> The switch with the waveforms controls how the unit progresses from one
> stage to the next. It is either linear, exponential, or stepped.
>
> The top switch (you didn't ask, but I thought I'd explain anyway) controls
> the major mode of the module. "Loop only" (as someone guessed)
> configures it
> as a complex LFO. In "One shot" mode, the stages will progress once only;
> the gate will not hold it in any sustain pattern but rather trigger the
> module. The "Gated loop" is more like a standard gated ADSR, but
> the sustain
> portion can have a complex loop anywhere between stages 2 through 4 and 5
> through 7. The "End gate" switch controls the behavior when the gate is
> released. If the switch is up, the module will complete all stages in the
> loop, otherwise it will immediately go to the final release time stage.
>
> Yes I agree about the minimum attack time. A goal is to get the
> attack under
> 1mS.
>
> Paul and I use different graphics tools and I know the font he uses, but I
> don't have the exact one. I'm trying to make it look very close
> so when it's
> in a system, it's a natural addition. The knobs are smaller
> versions of the
> ones he uses, but the mounting of the board is completely different. There
> is no information on cost or kit availability yet.
>
> Tony
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: alt-mode [mailto:alt_mode@...]
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 6:21 AM
> > To: motm@egroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [motm] MOTM compatible module
> >
> >
> > Tony,
> >
> > Very cool indeed!  Here's my comments:
> > - It is kinda tightly packed.  I'd be willing to go for 6 stages
> > to get more room.
> > - I do like the pairing of the time and level controls
> > - I don't think the individual stage LEDs are very useful.  If
> > you need a LED, put
> > one on the output so it brightens in proportion to the signal.
> > - I didn't get the TCV input.  What's that?
> > - I also don't get the switch on the lower right.  I initially
> > thought it was for
> > exponential vs. linear but I don't get the relationship between
> > the three choices.
> > Maybe this is because I haven't used Casios...
> > - The numbers around the knobs are OK but as I said above,
> > reducing the number of
> > stages might make it look neater.
> > - An absolutely crucial element for such an EG is the minimum
> > attack time.  I hope
> > this is in the very few ms range!
> > - Are you planning to use the same mechanical stuff as Paul (e.g.
> > panels, paint,
> > graphics, etc.)?
> >
> > It would be nice to see the high quality MOTM form factor used in
> > more compatible
> > modules.  It would be a nice to have high quality competition to the
> > Doepfer/Analogue Systems/Analogue Solutions and
> > Paia/Wiard/Blacet/FracRac stuff.  I
> > hope there are others out there, either offered through Paul or
> otherwise!
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > --- Tony Karavidas <tony@...> wrote:
> > > Hi group,
> > >
> > > It seems like this is "sneak peek" week, but it truly is a
> > coincidence. This
> > > image is my first graphic attempt and I was interested in
> your feedback.
> > >
> > > http://www.encoreelectronics.com/motm/ENVGEN2.JPG
> > >
> > > It has 5 toggle switches along the right side (which aren't
> > drawn in, there
> > > are just white holes in place). They perform various functions
> > and I'm not
> > > going to explain them in hopes the text and graphics can do it
> > for me. If a
> > > majority of you ask "what's that do" then I guess the image WILL need
> > > further explanation. I'm looking for feedback regarding the
> > numbers around
> > > the pots, the missing numbers, and if it looks ok without them,
> > the lack of
> > > the stage indication (I thought there were too many numbers
> > cluttering up
> > > the panel as it is). Maybe there should be no numbers around
> > the pots, but
> > > SHOULD be numbers for each of the stages. Is the graphic near
> the bottom
> > > useful? Is it in the way? Stuff like that.
> > >
> > > Anyway, this module is quite real, and I think will be a good
> > addition to
> > > Paul's lineup. A 4 stage ADSR is not enough for me.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tony Karavidas
> > > Encore Electronics
> > >
> > > http://www.encoreelectronics.com
> > >
> > > Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet."
> > -Keyboard Oct.
> > > 1997
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Mail  Free email you can access from anywhere!
> > http://mail.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>