MOTM

Many filters = good!  I did not really mean to complain, since the 
Arrick filter sounds very good.  Very Moog-like but I'm not sure if I 
can say "sounds like a modular" or "sounds like a mini".  I *can* say 
that it is not as timbrely complex as the 440.  And hiss I can deal 
with in my DAW...

Mike

--- In motm@y..., jhaible@t... wrote:
> Mike Marsh schrieb:
> > These samples do indeed sound great!  A question: I 
> > bought Roger  
> > Arrick's ladder filter and noticed a significant amount 
> > of hiss,  
> > particularly compared to MOTM filters such as the 440.  I 
> > noticed  
> > that your samples all had a similar amount of hiss and 
> > the character  
> > was essentially the same, too.  Is this endemic to ladder 
> > filter  
> > designs?
> 
> The hiss in my samples comes clearly from the Synthi Clone's
> VCA and the rest of the signal path. No such hiss in the
> filter (or in the final JH-5A for that matter).
> I don't know about the Roger Arrick filter, so I cannot 
> comment on this. In general, the choice of transistors will
> directly have an influence on the noise, for a given 
> architecture.
> 
> Now if you compare the Moog Ladder structure with the SSM2040
> or it's descendant, the MOTM-440, the 440 will win in most
> every category, *except* that typical "trademark Moog" sound.
> It's no secret that the SSM2040 is my all time favorite.
> I used to say "you need to have one Moog VCF for that special
> sound, but that's enough", and consequently I used a single
> (Minimoog clone) Moog style filter and several SSM2040 style
> filters all these years. But recently I decided that the
> "one Moog filter sound" that I wanted was the one from the 
> Modular, not from the Mini. I even consider to sell my MidiMini
> rackmount Mini clone to make space in the studio. (If anybody
> offers me an outrageous amount of money and picks it up at
> my home, that is - so it's more than likely that I'll keep
> it for a while (;->) ...)
> 
> Ah, I forgot, I also have a Moog Taurus I filter clone for some
> years now. Clearly too many Moog filters ! (;->)
> 
> JH.