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Use of SPF

Use of SPF

2004-12-11 by egcrosser

Gentlemen,
I'd like to return to the SPF issue.

Currently, this filter uses "SPF pass" condition is a reason to
*allow* submission.

As I demonstrated in one of my previous messages, this is not in line
with the concept of SPF, and opens a potential hole for spammers.

Still SPF information can be used in a meaningful way: the filter
should ignore "SPF pass" (and greylist in a usual way), but honor "SPF
fail" and *block* the submission with 5xx code.

What do you think?

Eugene

Re: [milter-greylist] Use of SPF

2004-12-11 by Ivan F. Martinez

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:26:28 -0000
"egcrosser" <egcrosser@...> wrote:

E> 
E> 
E> Gentlemen,
E> I'd like to return to the SPF issue.
E> 
E> Currently, this filter uses "SPF pass" condition is a reason to
E> *allow* submission.
E> 
E> As I demonstrated in one of my previous messages, this is not in line
E> with the concept of SPF, and opens a potential hole for spammers.
E> 
E> Still SPF information can be used in a meaningful way: the filter
E> should ignore "SPF pass" (and greylist in a usual way), but honor
E> "SPF fail" and *block* the submission with 5xx code.
E> 
E> What do you think?

I like, but :

1. The block must be optional as config option. If administrator wants
the message can be accepted (Actually I use spfmilter for the spf job,
and I don't started to test spf with milter-greylist).

2. We can create a new config parameter greylist_spf, when the sender
domain has SPF records use greylist_spf parameter to define the time to
wait, and when no spf record exist use the standard greylist parameter. 
Will be possible to use things like :
greylist_spf 30m
greylist 60m

giving extra bonus to spf enabled domains, but passing it on grey
process to check for the real SMTP and complaint servers.
And maybe create also autowhite_spf.



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Re: [milter-greylist] Use of SPF

2004-12-11 by manu@netbsd.org

egcrosser <egcrosser@...> wrote:

> Still SPF information can be used in a meaningful way: the filter
> should ignore "SPF pass" (and greylist in a usual way), but honor "SPF
> fail" and *block* the submission with 5xx code.
> 
> What do you think?

1) Using SPF as a blocking too belongs to a specific milter. There is no
reason to do that in milter-greylist. We can afford modularity, please
enjoy it.

2) I have the feeling that we are trying to solve a problem that does
not exists yet. Am I wrong?

-- 
Emmanuel Dreyfus
Il y a 10 sortes de personnes dans le monde: ceux qui comprennent 
le binaire et ceux qui ne le comprennent pas.
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