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Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by J.C. Wren

I'm thinking of laying out a board for the LPC210x.  I don't need 
much to get started, but if I'm going to put the effort into it, I may 
as well attempt to make it useful to other people.  Features I'm 
thinking of:

    MMC slot (SPI)
    MCP23016 16 bit port expander (I2C, perhaps two of these)
    64K bit FRAM memory (I2C)
    PCF8563 RTC (I2C)
    A/D converter (I2C) (unspec'ed.  8 channels, 10 bits?)
    RESET, INT0, INT1, INT2 pushy buttons
    DS18B20 temperature sensor (1-wire)
    DS2411 silicon ID (1-wire)
    DS2405 addressable switch (1-wire)
    JTAG interface (both ports, Wiggler compatible)
    UART0 MAX232 (or equivalent) level shifter, DB-9
    UART1 MAX232 (or equvalent) level shifter, all control lines, DB-9
    7-30V AC/DC input, 2.1mm coaxial (possibly switcher, probably linear)

    1st MCP23016 would include 8 LEDs and 8 switches (rocker or pushy?)
    2nd MCP2306 would be uncommitted, but have standard 14 pin LCD 
connector.
    LCD bias would be 0-5V, settable via a pot (or 1-wire digipot?)
    I2C and SPI availabel on headers
    5V @ 500ma, 3.3V @ 100ma available for user
    All I/O pins brought out to headers
    All I/O pins disconnectable from devices on board via jumper headers
    Prototyping area?  (I prefer to use connectors, rather than munging 
up cards)

    Anything I missed?  Anything any absolutely must have? 

    --jc

Re: Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by Helge Fabricius-Hansen

--- In lpc2100@yahoogroups.com, "J.C. Wren" <jcwren@j...> wrote:
>     I'm thinking of laying out a board for the LPC210x.  I don't 
need 
> much to get started, but if I'm going to put the effort into it, I 
may 
> as well attempt to make it useful to other people.  Features I'm 
> thinking of:
> 
>     MMC slot (SPI)
>     MCP23016 16 bit port expander (I2C, perhaps two of these)
>     64K bit FRAM memory (I2C)
>     PCF8563 RTC (I2C)
>     A/D converter (I2C) (unspec'ed.  8 channels, 10 bits?)
>     RESET, INT0, INT1, INT2 pushy buttons
>     DS18B20 temperature sensor (1-wire)
>     DS2411 silicon ID (1-wire)
>     DS2405 addressable switch (1-wire)
>     JTAG interface (both ports, Wiggler compatible)
>     UART0 MAX232 (or equivalent) level shifter, DB-9
>     UART1 MAX232 (or equvalent) level shifter, all control lines, 
DB-9
>     7-30V AC/DC input, 2.1mm coaxial (possibly switcher, probably 
linear)
> 
>     1st MCP23016 would include 8 LEDs and 8 switches (rocker or 
pushy?)
>     2nd MCP2306 would be uncommitted, but have standard 14 pin LCD 
> connector.
>     LCD bias would be 0-5V, settable via a pot (or 1-wire digipot?)
>     I2C and SPI availabel on headers
>     5V @ 500ma, 3.3V @ 100ma available for user
>     All I/O pins brought out to headers
>     All I/O pins disconnectable from devices on board via jumper 
headers
>     Prototyping area?  (I prefer to use connectors, rather than 
munging 
> up cards)
> 
>     Anything I missed?  Anything any absolutely must have? 
> 
>     --jc

Sounds like a nice board... Why not include a USBN9603 from National
It can be connected via the SPI. 

//Helge

Re: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by microbit

Hi John,

That sounds great, I think we're all on a similar wavelength here.
I've been wanting to get a gap to investigate whether the Philips ISP
utility asserts/deasserts DTR or CTS, so that it can be routed to P0.14,
so the bootloader entry is automatically done when you start the ISP
utility and reset the board. (it takes 30 seconds with the DRO, and for some
reason
I haven't done it yet :-(
If it doesn't do that, maybe Philips might consider doing something to that
effect.

What do you think ?

-- Kris

----- Original Message -----
From: "J.C. Wren" <jcwren@...>
To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:11 AM
Subject: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?


>     I'm thinking of laying out a board for the LPC210x.  I don't need
> much to get started, but if I'm going to put the effort into it, I may
> as well attempt to make it useful to other people.  Features I'm
> thinking of:
>
>     MMC slot (SPI)
>     MCP23016 16 bit port expander (I2C, perhaps two of these)
>     64K bit FRAM memory (I2C)
>     PCF8563 RTC (I2C)
>     A/D converter (I2C) (unspec'ed.  8 channels, 10 bits?)
>     RESET, INT0, INT1, INT2 pushy buttons
>     DS18B20 temperature sensor (1-wire)
>     DS2411 silicon ID (1-wire)
>     DS2405 addressable switch (1-wire)
>     JTAG interface (both ports, Wiggler compatible)
>     UART0 MAX232 (or equivalent) level shifter, DB-9
>     UART1 MAX232 (or equvalent) level shifter, all control lines, DB-9
>     7-30V AC/DC input, 2.1mm coaxial (possibly switcher, probably linear)
>
>     1st MCP23016 would include 8 LEDs and 8 switches (rocker or pushy?)
>     2nd MCP2306 would be uncommitted, but have standard 14 pin LCD
> connector.
>     LCD bias would be 0-5V, settable via a pot (or 1-wire digipot?)
>     I2C and SPI availabel on headers
>     5V @ 500ma, 3.3V @ 100ma available for user
>     All I/O pins brought out to headers
>     All I/O pins disconnectable from devices on board via jumper headers
>     Prototyping area?  (I prefer to use connectors, rather than munging
> up cards)
>
>     Anything I missed?  Anything any absolutely must have?
>
>     --jc
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Re: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by J.C. Wren

microbit wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> That sounds great, I think we're all on a similar wavelength here.
> I've been wanting to get a gap to investigate whether the Philips ISP
> utility asserts/deasserts DTR or CTS, so that it can be routed to P0.14,
> so the bootloader entry is automatically done when you start the ISP
> utility and reset the board. (it takes 30 seconds with the DRO, and 
> for some
> reason
> I haven't done it yet :-(
> If it doesn't do that, maybe Philips might consider doing something to 
> that
> effect.
>
> What do you think ?

    I think I don't know enough to know what to think yet :)  I haven't 
got anything with a processor yet, so I don't have any experience with 
that.  I'm starting schematics today, and creating symbols.  Is there 
something specific about what you said that I should look out for in the 
design, or would be convienent to have on the board?

    --jc
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>
> -- Kris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J.C. Wren" <jcwren@...>
> To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:11 AM
> Subject: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?
>
>
> >     I'm thinking of laying out a board for the LPC210x.  I don't need
> > much to get started, but if I'm going to put the effort into it, I may
> > as well attempt to make it useful to other people.  Features I'm
> > thinking of:
> >
> >     MMC slot (SPI)
> >     MCP23016 16 bit port expander (I2C, perhaps two of these)
> >     64K bit FRAM memory (I2C)
> >     PCF8563 RTC (I2C)
> >     A/D converter (I2C) (unspec'ed.  8 channels, 10 bits?)
> >     RESET, INT0, INT1, INT2 pushy buttons
> >     DS18B20 temperature sensor (1-wire)
> >     DS2411 silicon ID (1-wire)
> >     DS2405 addressable switch (1-wire)
> >     JTAG interface (both ports, Wiggler compatible)
> >     UART0 MAX232 (or equivalent) level shifter, DB-9
> >     UART1 MAX232 (or equvalent) level shifter, all control lines, DB-9
> >     7-30V AC/DC input, 2.1mm coaxial (possibly switcher, probably 
> linear)
> >
> >     1st MCP23016 would include 8 LEDs and 8 switches (rocker or pushy?)
> >     2nd MCP2306 would be uncommitted, but have standard 14 pin LCD
> > connector.
> >     LCD bias would be 0-5V, settable via a pot (or 1-wire digipot?)
> >     I2C and SPI availabel on headers
> >     5V @ 500ma, 3.3V @ 100ma available for user
> >     All I/O pins brought out to headers
> >     All I/O pins disconnectable from devices on board via jumper headers
> >     Prototyping area?  (I prefer to use connectors, rather than munging
> > up cards)
> >
> >     Anything I missed?  Anything any absolutely must have?
> >
> >     --jc
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Re: Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by haack0815

Hi Kris,

it seems that Philips are using the DTR for a reset and RTS for P0.14
in the new Version of LPC2000 Flash Utility (V2.0.3).

Andreas


--- In lpc2100@yahoogroups.com, "microbit" <microbit@c...> wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> That sounds great, I think we're all on a similar wavelength here.
> I've been wanting to get a gap to investigate whether the Philips ISP
> utility asserts/deasserts DTR or CTS, so that it can be routed to P0.14,
> so the bootloader entry is automatically done when you start the ISP
> utility and reset the board. (it takes 30 seconds with the DRO, and
for some
> reason
> I haven't done it yet :-(
> If it doesn't do that, maybe Philips might consider doing something
to that
> effect.
> 
> What do you think ?
> 
> -- Kris
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J.C. Wren" <jcwren@j...>
> To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:11 AM
> Subject: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?
> 
> 
> >     I'm thinking of laying out a board for the LPC210x.  I don't need
> > much to get started, but if I'm going to put the effort into it, I may
> > as well attempt to make it useful to other people.  Features I'm
> > thinking of:
> >
> >     MMC slot (SPI)
> >     MCP23016 16 bit port expander (I2C, perhaps two of these)
> >     64K bit FRAM memory (I2C)
> >     PCF8563 RTC (I2C)
> >     A/D converter (I2C) (unspec'ed.  8 channels, 10 bits?)
> >     RESET, INT0, INT1, INT2 pushy buttons
> >     DS18B20 temperature sensor (1-wire)
> >     DS2411 silicon ID (1-wire)
> >     DS2405 addressable switch (1-wire)
> >     JTAG interface (both ports, Wiggler compatible)
> >     UART0 MAX232 (or equivalent) level shifter, DB-9
> >     UART1 MAX232 (or equvalent) level shifter, all control lines, DB-9
> >     7-30V AC/DC input, 2.1mm coaxial (possibly switcher, probably
linear)
> >
> >     1st MCP23016 would include 8 LEDs and 8 switches (rocker or
pushy?)
> >     2nd MCP2306 would be uncommitted, but have standard 14 pin LCD
> > connector.
> >     LCD bias would be 0-5V, settable via a pot (or 1-wire digipot?)
> >     I2C and SPI availabel on headers
> >     5V @ 500ma, 3.3V @ 100ma available for user
> >     All I/O pins brought out to headers
> >     All I/O pins disconnectable from devices on board via jumper
headers
> >     Prototyping area?  (I prefer to use connectors, rather than
munging
> > up cards)
> >
> >     Anything I missed?  Anything any absolutely must have?
> >
> >     --jc
> >
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> >
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Re: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by Lewin A.R.W. Edwards

On this topic... if you're implementing MMC please go the whole hog and 
put an SD slot on it instead. I know most people don't have access to 
sufficient documentation to use it, but the connector costs about the 
same and it's a more future-proof design.

-- 
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Learn how to develop high-end embedded systems on a tight budget!
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Re: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by Alaric B Snell

J.C. Wren wrote:

>     I think I don't know enough to know what to think yet :)  I haven't 
> got anything with a processor yet, so I don't have any experience with 
> that.  I'm starting schematics today, and creating symbols.  Is there 
> something specific about what you said that I should look out for in the 
> design, or would be convienent to have on the board?

P0.14 is set up as an input and checked by the ROM loader. If it's in 
whatever state it needs to be in (the state it's not pulled to by the 
internal resister) then it starts trying to talk to a host PC via the 
serial port and offering its services as an ISP programming and 
monitoring interface (upload/download RAM, copy RAM to FLASH, call user 
code, etc) - otherwise it just runs the code in the FLASH.

So in order to program it via the serial port, you need a way of pulling 
P0.14 up or down or whatever it is :-)

> 
>     --jc
> 

ABS

Re: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by Alaric B Snell

Lewin A.R.W. Edwards wrote:
> On this topic... if you're implementing MMC please go the whole hog and 
> put an SD slot on it instead. I know most people don't have access to 
> sufficient documentation to use it, but the connector costs about the 
> same and it's a more future-proof design.

I've just found some information about talking to SD cards:

http://www.sdcard.org/sdphysical_simplifyed_Ver101.PDF

Includes such neat information as:

1) They can be accessed via SPI, MMC, or SD protocols

2) SD protocol is just MMC protocol but with 4 data lines instead of 1. 
The card, on power up, figures out if it's being spoken to in SPI or 
MMC. If in MMC, then you can (1 bit at a time) then ask it to switch to 
SD mode and use a wider bus.

ABS

Re: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by microbit

Hi John,

> that.  I'm starting schematics today, and creating symbols.  Is there
> something specific about what you said that I should look out for in the
> design, or would be convienent to have on the board?

You'd want to make sure that P0.14 can be set high/Low (for Bootloader),
and that you can control DBGSEL and RTCK easily (to enable/disable JTAG).
Next time I fire up the machines I'll actually try the ISP utility, as I
find it bizarre
that the ISP utility prompts to "press reset on the board" but doesn't
prompt
for any action on P0.14 - but I might be presumptious here.

I just think that P0.14 is "banned" from normal I/O use --  unless you can
guarantee
it is HIGH when leaving Reset. (which is a pain, considering there's a NC
pin on the thing)
In the applications I have in mind I can't guarantee that, thus the risk is
there
that the Bootloader is entered on StartUp.

B rgds
Kris

Re: [lpc2100] Re: Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by microbit

Hi Andreas,

Interesting !
I have the V1.0.2 (from lpc2100.com).
I'll hunt for that new version.
RTS puzzles me though, are you sure it's not CTS ??
RTS is an output from MCU to Host (when DTE).
I wish they'd have used DTR for P0.14 ... :-)

B rgds
Kris


> Hi Kris,
>
> it seems that Philips are using the DTR for a reset and RTS for P0.14
> in the new Version of LPC2000 Flash Utility (V2.0.3).
>
> Andreas
>
>
> --- In lpc2100@yahoogroups.com, "microbit" <microbit@c...> wrote:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > That sounds great, I think we're all on a similar wavelength here.
> > I've been wanting to get a gap to investigate whether the Philips ISP
> > utility asserts/deasserts DTR or CTS, so that it can be routed to P0.14,
> > so the bootloader entry is automatically done when you start the ISP
> > utility and reset the board. (it takes 30 seconds with the DRO, and
> for some
> > reason
> > I haven't done it yet :-(
> > If it doesn't do that, maybe Philips might consider doing something
> to that
> > effect.
> >
> > What do you think ?
> >
> > -- Kris
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "J.C. Wren" <jcwren@j...>
> > To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:11 AM
> > Subject: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?
> >
> >
> > >     I'm thinking of laying out a board for the LPC210x.  I don't need
> > > much to get started, but if I'm going to put the effort into it, I may
> > > as well attempt to make it useful to other people.  Features I'm
> > > thinking of:
> > >
> > >     MMC slot (SPI)
> > >     MCP23016 16 bit port expander (I2C, perhaps two of these)
> > >     64K bit FRAM memory (I2C)
> > >     PCF8563 RTC (I2C)
> > >     A/D converter (I2C) (unspec'ed.  8 channels, 10 bits?)
> > >     RESET, INT0, INT1, INT2 pushy buttons
> > >     DS18B20 temperature sensor (1-wire)
> > >     DS2411 silicon ID (1-wire)
> > >     DS2405 addressable switch (1-wire)
> > >     JTAG interface (both ports, Wiggler compatible)
> > >     UART0 MAX232 (or equivalent) level shifter, DB-9
> > >     UART1 MAX232 (or equvalent) level shifter, all control lines, DB-9
> > >     7-30V AC/DC input, 2.1mm coaxial (possibly switcher, probably
> linear)
> > >
> > >     1st MCP23016 would include 8 LEDs and 8 switches (rocker or
> pushy?)
> > >     2nd MCP2306 would be uncommitted, but have standard 14 pin LCD
> > > connector.
> > >     LCD bias would be 0-5V, settable via a pot (or 1-wire digipot?)
> > >     I2C and SPI availabel on headers
> > >     5V @ 500ma, 3.3V @ 100ma available for user
> > >     All I/O pins brought out to headers
> > >     All I/O pins disconnectable from devices on board via jumper
> headers
> > >     Prototyping area?  (I prefer to use connectors, rather than
> munging
> > > up cards)
> > >
> > >     Anything I missed?  Anything any absolutely must have?
> > >
> > >     --jc
> > >
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Re: Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by Richard

Kris,
   See the previous post(s).  ;-)

Richard

--- In lpc2100@yahoogroups.com, "microbit" <microbit@c...> wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
> 
> Interesting !
> I have the V1.0.2 (from lpc2100.com).
> I'll hunt for that new version.
> RTS puzzles me though, are you sure it's not CTS ??
> RTS is an output from MCU to Host (when DTE).
> I wish they'd have used DTR for P0.14 ... :-)
> 
> B rgds
> Kris
> 
> 
> > Hi Kris,
> >
> > it seems that Philips are using the DTR for a reset and RTS for 
P0.14
> > in the new Version of LPC2000 Flash Utility (V2.0.3).
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> >
> > --- In lpc2100@yahoogroups.com, "microbit" <microbit@c...> wrote:
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > That sounds great, I think we're all on a similar wavelength 
here.
> > > I've been wanting to get a gap to investigate whether the 
Philips ISP
> > > utility asserts/deasserts DTR or CTS, so that it can be routed 
to P0.14,
> > > so the bootloader entry is automatically done when you start 
the ISP
> > > utility and reset the board. (it takes 30 seconds with the DRO, 
and
> > for some
> > > reason
> > > I haven't done it yet :-(
> > > If it doesn't do that, maybe Philips might consider doing 
something
> > to that
> > > effect.
> > >
> > > What do you think ?
> > >
> > > -- Kris
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "J.C. Wren" <jcwren@j...>
> > > To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:11 AM
> > > Subject: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?
> > >
> > >
> > > >     I'm thinking of laying out a board for the LPC210x.  I 
don't need
> > > > much to get started, but if I'm going to put the effort into 
it, I may
> > > > as well attempt to make it useful to other people.  Features 
I'm
> > > > thinking of:
> > > >
> > > >     MMC slot (SPI)
> > > >     MCP23016 16 bit port expander (I2C, perhaps two of these)
> > > >     64K bit FRAM memory (I2C)
> > > >     PCF8563 RTC (I2C)
> > > >     A/D converter (I2C) (unspec'ed.  8 channels, 10 bits?)
> > > >     RESET, INT0, INT1, INT2 pushy buttons
> > > >     DS18B20 temperature sensor (1-wire)
> > > >     DS2411 silicon ID (1-wire)
> > > >     DS2405 addressable switch (1-wire)
> > > >     JTAG interface (both ports, Wiggler compatible)
> > > >     UART0 MAX232 (or equivalent) level shifter, DB-9
> > > >     UART1 MAX232 (or equvalent) level shifter, all control 
lines, DB-9
> > > >     7-30V AC/DC input, 2.1mm coaxial (possibly switcher, 
probably
> > linear)
> > > >
> > > >     1st MCP23016 would include 8 LEDs and 8 switches (rocker 
or
> > pushy?)
> > > >     2nd MCP2306 would be uncommitted, but have standard 14 
pin LCD
> > > > connector.
> > > >     LCD bias would be 0-5V, settable via a pot (or 1-wire 
digipot?)
> > > >     I2C and SPI availabel on headers
> > > >     5V @ 500ma, 3.3V @ 100ma available for user
> > > >     All I/O pins brought out to headers
> > > >     All I/O pins disconnectable from devices on board via 
jumper
> > headers
> > > >     Prototyping area?  (I prefer to use connectors, rather 
than
> > munging
> > > > up cards)
> > > >
> > > >     Anything I missed?  Anything any absolutely must have?
> > > >
> > > >     --jc
> > > >
> > > >       Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> > > >             ADVERTISEMENT
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Re: Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by haack0815

Hi Kris,

at the PC(DTE) RTS is an output on pin 7 on the DSUB-9 connector.


Andreas




--- In lpc2100@yahoogroups.com, "microbit" <microbit@c...> wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
> 
> Interesting !
> I have the V1.0.2 (from lpc2100.com).
> I'll hunt for that new version.
> RTS puzzles me though, are you sure it's not CTS ??
> RTS is an output from MCU to Host (when DTE).
> I wish they'd have used DTR for P0.14 ... :-)
> 
> B rgds
> Kris
> 
> 
> > Hi Kris,
> >
> > it seems that Philips are using the DTR for a reset and RTS for P0.14
> > in the new Version of LPC2000 Flash Utility (V2.0.3).
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> >
> > --- In lpc2100@yahoogroups.com, "microbit" <microbit@c...> wrote:
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > That sounds great, I think we're all on a similar wavelength here.
> > > I've been wanting to get a gap to investigate whether the
Philips ISP
> > > utility asserts/deasserts DTR or CTS, so that it can be routed
to P0.14,
> > > so the bootloader entry is automatically done when you start the ISP
> > > utility and reset the board. (it takes 30 seconds with the DRO, and
> > for some
> > > reason
> > > I haven't done it yet :-(
> > > If it doesn't do that, maybe Philips might consider doing something
> > to that
> > > effect.
> > >
> > > What do you think ?
> > >
> > > -- Kris
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "J.C. Wren" <jcwren@j...>
> > > To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:11 AM
> > > Subject: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?
> > >
> > >
> > > >     I'm thinking of laying out a board for the LPC210x.  I
don't need
> > > > much to get started, but if I'm going to put the effort into
it, I may
> > > > as well attempt to make it useful to other people.  Features I'm
> > > > thinking of:
> > > >
> > > >     MMC slot (SPI)
> > > >     MCP23016 16 bit port expander (I2C, perhaps two of these)
> > > >     64K bit FRAM memory (I2C)
> > > >     PCF8563 RTC (I2C)
> > > >     A/D converter (I2C) (unspec'ed.  8 channels, 10 bits?)
> > > >     RESET, INT0, INT1, INT2 pushy buttons
> > > >     DS18B20 temperature sensor (1-wire)
> > > >     DS2411 silicon ID (1-wire)
> > > >     DS2405 addressable switch (1-wire)
> > > >     JTAG interface (both ports, Wiggler compatible)
> > > >     UART0 MAX232 (or equivalent) level shifter, DB-9
> > > >     UART1 MAX232 (or equvalent) level shifter, all control
lines, DB-9
> > > >     7-30V AC/DC input, 2.1mm coaxial (possibly switcher, probably
> > linear)
> > > >
> > > >     1st MCP23016 would include 8 LEDs and 8 switches (rocker or
> > pushy?)
> > > >     2nd MCP2306 would be uncommitted, but have standard 14 pin LCD
> > > > connector.
> > > >     LCD bias would be 0-5V, settable via a pot (or 1-wire
digipot?)
> > > >     I2C and SPI availabel on headers
> > > >     5V @ 500ma, 3.3V @ 100ma available for user
> > > >     All I/O pins brought out to headers
> > > >     All I/O pins disconnectable from devices on board via jumper
> > headers
> > > >     Prototyping area?  (I prefer to use connectors, rather than
> > munging
> > > > up cards)
> > > >
> > > >     Anything I missed?  Anything any absolutely must have?
> > > >
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Re: [lpc2100] Re: Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by microbit

Thanks a lot Richard,

I posted those before I worked through the rest of my
Inbox :-)
I'll be trying out that new version you uploaded - although it doesn't sound
like it will work on a Nohau Tester board, as the 2 DB9s are
wired as DTEs, not DCEs.
I'll be doing my own version of a develop board when the 64 pin parts
are out anyway -- unless I use one of the boards offered by others here.

B rgds
Kris


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" <richas@...>
To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 5:19 AM
Subject: [lpc2100] Re: Evaluation/development board features?


> Kris,
>    See the previous post(s).  ;-)
>
> Richard
>
> --- In lpc2100@yahoogroups.com, "microbit" <microbit@c...> wrote:
> > Hi Andreas,
> >
> > Interesting !
> > I have the V1.0.2 (from lpc2100.com).
> > I'll hunt for that new version.
> > RTS puzzles me though, are you sure it's not CTS ??
> > RTS is an output from MCU to Host (when DTE).
> > I wish they'd have used DTR for P0.14 ... :-)
> >
> > B rgds
> > Kris
> >
> >
> > > Hi Kris,
> > >
> > > it seems that Philips are using the DTR for a reset and RTS for
> P0.14
> > > in the new Version of LPC2000 Flash Utility (V2.0.3).
> > >
> > > Andreas
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In lpc2100@yahoogroups.com, "microbit" <microbit@c...> wrote:
> > > > Hi John,
> > > >
> > > > That sounds great, I think we're all on a similar wavelength
> here.
> > > > I've been wanting to get a gap to investigate whether the
> Philips ISP
> > > > utility asserts/deasserts DTR or CTS, so that it can be routed
> to P0.14,
> > > > so the bootloader entry is automatically done when you start
> the ISP
> > > > utility and reset the board. (it takes 30 seconds with the DRO,
> and
> > > for some
> > > > reason
> > > > I haven't done it yet :-(
> > > > If it doesn't do that, maybe Philips might consider doing
> something
> > > to that
> > > > effect.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think ?
> > > >
> > > > -- Kris
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "J.C. Wren" <jcwren@j...>
> > > > To: <lpc2100@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:11 AM
> > > > Subject: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >     I'm thinking of laying out a board for the LPC210x.  I
> don't need
> > > > > much to get started, but if I'm going to put the effort into
> it, I may
> > > > > as well attempt to make it useful to other people.  Features
> I'm
> > > > > thinking of:
> > > > >
> > > > >     MMC slot (SPI)
> > > > >     MCP23016 16 bit port expander (I2C, perhaps two of these)
> > > > >     64K bit FRAM memory (I2C)
> > > > >     PCF8563 RTC (I2C)
> > > > >     A/D converter (I2C) (unspec'ed.  8 channels, 10 bits?)
> > > > >     RESET, INT0, INT1, INT2 pushy buttons
> > > > >     DS18B20 temperature sensor (1-wire)
> > > > >     DS2411 silicon ID (1-wire)
> > > > >     DS2405 addressable switch (1-wire)
> > > > >     JTAG interface (both ports, Wiggler compatible)
> > > > >     UART0 MAX232 (or equivalent) level shifter, DB-9
> > > > >     UART1 MAX232 (or equvalent) level shifter, all control
> lines, DB-9
> > > > >     7-30V AC/DC input, 2.1mm coaxial (possibly switcher,
> probably
> > > linear)
> > > > >
> > > > >     1st MCP23016 would include 8 LEDs and 8 switches (rocker
> or
> > > pushy?)
> > > > >     2nd MCP2306 would be uncommitted, but have standard 14
> pin LCD
> > > > > connector.
> > > > >     LCD bias would be 0-5V, settable via a pot (or 1-wire
> digipot?)
> > > > >     I2C and SPI availabel on headers
> > > > >     5V @ 500ma, 3.3V @ 100ma available for user
> > > > >     All I/O pins brought out to headers
> > > > >     All I/O pins disconnectable from devices on board via
> jumper
> > > headers
> > > > >     Prototyping area?  (I prefer to use connectors, rather
> than
> > > munging
> > > > > up cards)
> > > > >
> > > > >     Anything I missed?  Anything any absolutely must have?
> > > > >
> > > > >     --jc
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Re: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by Lewin A.R.W. Edwards

> 2) SD protocol is just MMC protocol but with 4 data lines instead of 1. 

Most importantly, SD cards are allowed to be physically larger. There 
are SDIO 802.11b and Bluetooth cards (and other peripherals too), but 
not for MMC. That's why I requested the SD connector.

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RE: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by James Dabbs

Off Topic, but is there any example source of showing how to talk to an
SD memory card out there anywhere?  I know you have to pay to get the
spec, but I also see mention on Linux drivers supporting it.  However, I
can't seem to find any of them..
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From: Lewin A.R.W. Edwards [mailto:larwe@...] 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:49 PM
To: lpc2100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?


> 2) SD protocol is just MMC protocol but with 4 data lines instead of 
> 1.

Most importantly, SD cards are allowed to be physically larger. There 
are SDIO 802.11b and Bluetooth cards (and other peripherals too), but 
not for MMC. That's why I requested the SD connector.

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Re: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by Lewin A.R.W. Edwards

> Off Topic, but is there any example source of showing how to talk to an
> SD memory card out there anywhere?  I know you have to pay to get the

You can talk to SD using MMC fallback mode. However, this mode doesn't 
let you use the (BS!) DRM features built into the spec. That's the 
secret part. Depending on the appliance that wrote the card, you may or 
may not be able to access already-written data.

> spec, but I also see mention on Linux drivers supporting it.  However, I

I haven't seen a Linux driver for raw SD. I've seen drivers for 
mass-storage devices that use it, of course... But if these drivers do 
exist, arm-linux would be the place to find them. I don't see how it 
could be released opensource though - the SD spec has stringent 
nondisclosure requirements.

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Re: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by Alaric B Snell

Lewin A.R.W. Edwards wrote:
>>Off Topic, but is there any example source of showing how to talk to an
>>SD memory card out there anywhere?  I know you have to pay to get the
> 
> 
> You can talk to SD using MMC fallback mode. However, this mode doesn't 
> let you use the (BS!) DRM features built into the spec. That's the 
> secret part. Depending on the appliance that wrote the card, you may or 
> may not be able to access already-written data.

According to the doc I found, you just need to set a flag somewhere from 
MMC mode to make it go into 4-bit SD mode; apart from the changed 
electrical stuff, the logical interface remains the same. I've only 
skimmed through the PDF but it looked like you might have enough info 
there to access an SD card in 4-bit wide mode as a FLASH device. It 
*looks* as if the only thing that goes in the protected region is a 
crypto key for the DRM-protected file...

Anyway - any links to documentation anyone has on MMC or SD - please 
send it to me to put on the Wiki, unless you fancy adding it yourself!

ABS

Re: Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by haack0815

Hi,

take a look at www.sandisk.com/oem.html

Andreas

--- In lpc2100@yahoogroups.com, Alaric B Snell <alaric@a...> wrote:
> Lewin A.R.W. Edwards wrote:
> >>Off Topic, but is there any example source of showing how to talk
to an
> >>SD memory card out there anywhere?  I know you have to pay to get the
> > 
> > 
> > You can talk to SD using MMC fallback mode. However, this mode
doesn't 
> > let you use the (BS!) DRM features built into the spec. That's the 
> > secret part. Depending on the appliance that wrote the card, you
may or 
> > may not be able to access already-written data.
> 
> According to the doc I found, you just need to set a flag somewhere
from 
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> MMC mode to make it go into 4-bit SD mode; apart from the changed 
> electrical stuff, the logical interface remains the same. I've only 
> skimmed through the PDF but it looked like you might have enough info 
> there to access an SD card in 4-bit wide mode as a FLASH device. It 
> *looks* as if the only thing that goes in the protected region is a 
> crypto key for the DRM-protected file...
> 
> Anyway - any links to documentation anyone has on MMC or SD - please 
> send it to me to put on the Wiki, unless you fancy adding it yourself!
> 
> ABS

Re: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by Matthias Weingart

On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 07:58:46PM +0000, Alaric B Snell wrote:
> Anyway - any links to documentation anyone has on MMC or SD - please 
> send it to me to put on the Wiki, unless you fancy adding it yourself!

Which wiki?

        Matthias

Re: [lpc2100] Evaluation/development board features?

2004-02-05 by Alaric B Snell

Matthias Weingart wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 07:58:46PM +0000, Alaric B Snell wrote:
> 
>>Anyway - any links to documentation anyone has on MMC or SD - please 
>>send it to me to put on the Wiki, unless you fancy adding it yourself!
> 
> 
> Which wiki?

This Wiki:

http://www.open-research.org.uk/ARMuC/

It's a bit bare right now. I'm collecting links, but hopefully people 
will start to add their own content to it as well, if they have the urge 
to describe their experiences and ideas but not web site to put them on 
of their own, etc.

> 
>         Matthias
> 

ABS

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