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Parameter wheel

2005-07-30 by Philip Linde

I recently saw someone was selling a Poly-800, which he had modified.
He had the standard filter pot mods, but he had also installed a wheel
which you could change the parameters with (instead of the value
up/down buttons).

I was to ask him how this was done, but i forgot about it, so I wonder
if anyone here has done the same mod and would like to explain how to
do it here, because it'd be awesome to control everything faster with
a wheel!

RE: [korgpolyex] Parameter wheel

2005-07-30 by guillaume richard

I do agree with you, that would definitly be THE mod to do... indeed we
could all avoid to use these buttons that you have to clean its contact to
get them working correctly!

>From: "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@...>
>Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [korgpolyex] Parameter wheel
>Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:31:21 -0000
>
>I recently saw someone was selling a Poly-800, which he had modified.
>He had the standard filter pot mods, but he had also installed a wheel
>which you could change the parameters with (instead of the value
>up/down buttons).
>
>I was to ask him how this was done, but i forgot about it, so I wonder
>if anyone here has done the same mod and would like to explain how to
>do it here, because it'd be awesome to control everything faster with
>a wheel!
>
>
>

RE: Parameter wheel

2005-07-31 by iheartvinyl@netzero.net

that is a really awesome idea. i wish i had electronics knowledge to figure out how to use some kind of dial. the buttons can be replaced by another button easily, but finding a dial that would work must be tricky. i might try to ask some smart buddies if they would be able to do it.

RE: [korgpolyex] RE: Parameter wheel

2005-07-31 by guillaume richard

Just do so, when i'll get more times i'll ask to a pal of mine that can
create his own midi boxes... he could easily find something for us i guess..
he also programs dsp and such you see!

>From: "iheartvinyl@..." <iheartvinyl@...>
>Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [korgpolyex] RE: Parameter wheel
>Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:48:25 GMT
>
>
>that is a really awesome idea. i wish i had electronics knowledge to figure
>out how to use some kind of dial. the buttons can be replaced by another
>button easily, but finding a dial that would work must be tricky. i might
>try to ask some smart buddies if they would be able to do it.

Re: Parameter wheel

2005-08-01 by Philip Linde

Hello!
Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt10_3.htm. I
wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the solution
to be.

Sentences like this: "The output terminal becomes the condition
whether or not which connects with the common terminal or whether or
not it is not." prevented me from reading it through carefully, though :-)

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
<kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:

> Just do so, when i'll get more times i'll ask to a pal of mine that can
> create his own midi boxes... he could easily find something for us i

guess..

> he also programs dsp and such you see!
>
> >From: "iheartvinyl@n..." <iheartvinyl@n...>
> >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [korgpolyex] RE: Parameter wheel
> >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:48:25 GMT
> >
> >
> >that is a really awesome idea. i wish i had electronics knowledge

to figure

> >out how to use some kind of dial. the buttons can be replaced by

another

> >button easily, but finding a dial that would work must be tricky. i

might

> >try to ask some smart buddies if they would be able to do it.

RE: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel

2005-08-01 by guillaume richard

will email my friend as soon as i get my computer back at home. Im pretty
sure it will be easy for him to do it as he did hiw own digital guitars and
tons of do it yourself midiboxes...

>From: "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@...>
>Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
>Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:22:04 -0000
>
>Hello!
>Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
>information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt10_3.htm. I
>wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the solution
>to be.
>
>Sentences like this: "The output terminal becomes the condition
>whether or not which connects with the common terminal or whether or
>not it is not." prevented me from reading it through carefully, though :-)
>
>--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
><kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > Just do so, when i'll get more times i'll ask to a pal of mine that can
> > create his own midi boxes... he could easily find something for us i
>guess..
> > he also programs dsp and such you see!
> >
> > >From: "iheartvinyl@n..." <iheartvinyl@n...>
> > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [korgpolyex] RE: Parameter wheel
> > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:48:25 GMT
> > >
> > >
> > >that is a really awesome idea. i wish i had electronics knowledge
>to figure
> > >out how to use some kind of dial. the buttons can be replaced by
>another
> > >button easily, but finding a dial that would work must be tricky. i
>might
> > >try to ask some smart buddies if they would be able to do it.
>
>

Re: Parameter wheel

2005-08-02 by jusufzemplin

I though about data-wheel, and I think it would work on similar
principe,like control wheel on some monitors. I will try to find some
details about it...

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
<kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:

> will email my friend as soon as i get my computer back at home. Im

pretty

> sure it will be easy for him to do it as he did hiw own digital

guitars and

> tons of do it yourself midiboxes...
>
> >From: "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@t...>
> >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
> >Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:22:04 -0000
> >
> >Hello!
> >Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
> >information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt10_3.htm.

> >wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the

solution

> >to be.
> >
> >Sentences like this: "The output terminal becomes the condition
> >whether or not which connects with the common terminal or whether

> >not it is not." prevented me from reading it through carefully,

though :-)

> >
> >--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
> ><kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > > Just do so, when i'll get more times i'll ask to a pal of mine

that can

> > > create his own midi boxes... he could easily find something for

us i

> >guess..
> > > he also programs dsp and such you see!
> > >
> > > >From: "iheartvinyl@n..." <iheartvinyl@n...>
> > > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [korgpolyex] RE: Parameter wheel
> > > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:48:25 GMT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >that is a really awesome idea. i wish i had electronics

knowledge

> >to figure
> > > >out how to use some kind of dial. the buttons can be replaced

> >another
> > > >button easily, but finding a dial that would work must be

tricky. i

> >might
> > > >try to ask some smart buddies if they would be able to do it.
> >
> >

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel

2005-08-02 by russ

honestly, the 800 only has a max adjustment range of 31 and alot of parameters are just 0-1-2 or similar. It seems like it would be a lot of trouble with little reward. I would rather see switches for discrete parameters, like high-mid-low for osc range. Or on off switches for the waveform shape at 16,8,4,2,1. After I finish rebuilding my Yamaha PM1000 I'll look at it. But I am an analog audio geek. I know very little about digital control.

jusufzemplin <jusuf@...> wrote:

I though about data-wheel, and I think it would work on similar
principe,like control wheel on some monitors. I will try to find some
details about it...

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
<kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> will email my friend as soon as i get my computer back at home. Im
pretty
> sure it will be easy for him to do it as he did hiw own digital
guitars and
> tons of do it yourself midiboxes...
>
> >From: "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@t...>
> >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
> >Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:22:04 -0000
> >
> >Hello!
> >Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
> >information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt10_3.htm.
I
> >wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the
solution
> >to be.
> >
> >Sentences like this: "The output terminal becomes the condition
> >whether or not which connects with the common terminal or whether
or
> >not it is not." prevented me from reading it through carefully,
though :-)
> >
> >--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
> ><kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > > Just do so, when i'll get more times i'll ask to a pal of mine
that can
> > > create his own midi boxes... he could easily find something for
us i
> >guess..
> > > he also programs dsp and such you see!
> > >
> > > >From: "iheartvinyl@n..." <iheartvinyl@n...>
> > > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [korgpolyex] RE: Parameter wheel
> > > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:48:25 GMT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >that is a really awesome idea. i wish i had electronics
knowledge
> >to figure
> > > >out how to use some kind of dial. the buttons can be replaced
by
> >another
> > > >button easily, but finding a dial that would work must be
tricky. i
> >might
> > > >try to ask some smart buddies if they would be able to do it.
> >
> >

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Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel

2005-08-02 by guillaume richard

well, on yamaha dx7 you can change values with sliders and values differs...
from 0 to 99 or from 0 to 32... no shit.. so it's possible.

>From: russ <russdaren@...>
>Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
>Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:03:22 -0700 (PDT)
>
>honestly, the 800 only has a max adjustment range of 31 and alot of
>parameters are just 0-1-2 or similar. It seems like it would be a lot of
>trouble with little reward. I would rather see switches for discrete
>parameters, like high-mid-low for osc range. Or on off switches for the
>waveform shape at 16,8,4,2,1. After I finish rebuilding my Yamaha PM1000
>I'll look at it. But I am an analog audio geek. I know very little about
>digital control.
>
>jusufzemplin <jusuf@...> wrote:I though about data-wheel, and I think it
>would work on similar
>principe,like control wheel on some monitors. I will try to find some
>details about it...
>
>
>--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
><kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > will email my friend as soon as i get my computer back at home. Im
>pretty
> > sure it will be easy for him to do it as he did hiw own digital
>guitars and
> > tons of do it yourself midiboxes...
> >
> > >From: "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@t...>
> > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
> > >Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:22:04 -0000
> > >
> > >Hello!
> > >Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
> > >information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt10_3.htm.
>I
> > >wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the
>solution
> > >to be.
> > >
> > >Sentences like this: "The output terminal becomes the condition
> > >whether or not which connects with the common terminal or whether
>or
> > >not it is not." prevented me from reading it through carefully,
>though :-)
> > >
> > >--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
> > ><kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > > > Just do so, when i'll get more times i'll ask to a pal of mine
>that can
> > > > create his own midi boxes... he could easily find something for
>us i
> > >guess..
> > > > he also programs dsp and such you see!
> > > >
> > > > >From: "iheartvinyl@n..." <iheartvinyl@n...>
> > > > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >Subject: [korgpolyex] RE: Parameter wheel
> > > > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:48:25 GMT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >that is a really awesome idea. i wish i had electronics
>knowledge
> > >to figure
> > > > >out how to use some kind of dial. the buttons can be replaced
>by
> > >another
> > > > >button easily, but finding a dial that would work must be
>tricky. i
> > >might
> > > > >try to ask some smart buddies if they would be able to do it.
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
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Re: Parameter wheel

2005-08-02 by Phoebe October

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@t...>
wrote:

> Hello!
> Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
> information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt10_3.htm. I
> wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the solution
> to be.

Aha...I was never exactly sure how a rotary encoder worked until now.
Then again, I never really looked into it either. It seems to me that
the rotary encoder + the up-down detection circuit would fit the bill.
I may have to give it a try once I start working on modifying my poly800.

Yes, I have some circuit knowledge (but not a ton)...I make and modify
things.

cya!
phoebe aka october71
www.soundclick.com/october71

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel

2005-08-02 by russ

Th DX7 is, of course, a digital synth, so it is easier for them to implement in the design. The 800 is analog controlled by digital, and a strange 7bit? interface. It may be possible to implement a dial for parameter adjustment. It would have to be a rotary encoder, or an endless pot with an adc. But I think it would be more rewarding to have discrete switches for parameters. That way it would be more "performance oriented". Whereas with a single knob for all the parameter adjustments you would be stuck in the same hell as the alpha Juno etc.

guillaume richard <kaneelisdead@...> wrote:

well, on yamaha dx7 you can change values with sliders and values differs...
from 0 to 99 or from 0 to 32... no shit.. so it's possible.

>From: russ <russdaren@...>
>Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
>Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:03:22 -0700 (PDT)
>
>honestly, the 800 only has a max adjustment range of 31 and alot of
>parameters are just 0-1-2 or similar. It seems like it would be a lot of
>trouble with little reward. I would rather see switches for discrete
>parameters, like high-mid-low for osc range. Or on off switches for the
>waveform shape at 16,8,4,2,1. After I finish rebuilding my Yamaha PM1000
>I'll look at it. But I am an analog audio geek. I know very little about
>digital control.
>
>jusufzemplin <jusuf@...> wrote:I though about data-wheel, and I think it
>would work on similar
>principe,like control wheel on some monitors. I will try to find some
>details about it...
>
>
>--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
><kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > will email my friend as soon as i get my computer back at home. Im
>pretty
> > sure it will be easy for him to do it as he did hiw own digital
>guitars and
> > tons of do it yourself midiboxes...
> >
> > >From: "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@t...>
> > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
> > >Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:22:04 -0000
> > >
> > >Hello!
> > >Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
> > >information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt10_3.htm.
>I
> > >wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the
>solution
> > >to be.
> > >
> > >Sentences like this: "The output terminal becomes the condition
> > >whether or not which connects with the common terminal or whether
>or
> > >not it is not." prevented me from reading it through carefully,
>though :-)
> > >
> > >--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
> > ><kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > > > Just do so, when i'll get more times i'll ask to a pal of mine
>that can
> > > > create his own midi boxes... he could easily find something for
>us i
> > >guess..
> > > > he also programs dsp and such you see!
> > > >
> > > > >From: "iheartvinyl@n..." <iheartvinyl@n...>
> > > > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >Subject: [korgpolyex] RE: Parameter wheel
> > > > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:48:25 GMT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >that is a really awesome idea. i wish i had electronics
>knowledge
> > >to figure
> > > > >out how to use some kind of dial. the buttons can be replaced
>by
> > >another
> > > > >button easily, but finding a dial that would work must be
>tricky. i
> > >might
> > > > >try to ask some smart buddies if they would be able to do it.
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
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Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel

2005-08-02 by guillaume richard

I would really kill mysezlf for having a knobfilled synth but i can also
imagine the number of holes to drill.....

>From: russ <russdaren@...>
>Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
>Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 11:22:48 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Th DX7 is, of course, a digital synth, so it is easier for them to
>implement in the design. The 800 is analog controlled by digital, and a
>strange 7bit? interface. It may be possible to implement a dial for
>parameter adjustment. It would have to be a rotary encoder, or an endless
>pot with an adc. But I think it would be more rewarding to have discrete
>switches for parameters. That way it would be more "performance oriented".
>Whereas with a single knob for all the parameter adjustments you would be
>stuck in the same hell as the alpha Juno etc.
>
>guillaume richard <kaneelisdead@...> wrote:well, on yamaha dx7 you
>can change values with sliders and values differs...
>from 0 to 99 or from 0 to 32... no shit.. so it's possible.
>
> >From: russ <russdaren@...>
> >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
> >Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:03:22 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >honestly, the 800 only has a max adjustment range of 31 and alot of
> >parameters are just 0-1-2 or similar. It seems like it would be a lot of
> >trouble with little reward. I would rather see switches for discrete
> >parameters, like high-mid-low for osc range. Or on off switches for the
> >waveform shape at 16,8,4,2,1. After I finish rebuilding my Yamaha PM1000
> >I'll look at it. But I am an analog audio geek. I know very little about
> >digital control.
> >
> >jusufzemplin <jusuf@...> wrote:I though about data-wheel, and I think
>it
> >would work on similar
> >principe,like control wheel on some monitors. I will try to find some
> >details about it...
> >
> >
> >--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
> ><kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > > will email my friend as soon as i get my computer back at home. Im
> >pretty
> > > sure it will be easy for him to do it as he did hiw own digital
> >guitars and
> > > tons of do it yourself midiboxes...
> > >
> > > >From: "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@t...>
> > > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
> > > >Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:22:04 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Hello!
> > > >Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
> > > >information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt10_3.htm.
> >I
> > > >wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the
> >solution
> > > >to be.
> > > >
> > > >Sentences like this: "The output terminal becomes the condition
> > > >whether or not which connects with the common terminal or whether
> >or
> > > >not it is not." prevented me from reading it through carefully,
> >though :-)
> > > >
> > > >--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
> > > ><kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > > > > Just do so, when i'll get more times i'll ask to a pal of mine
> >that can
> > > > > create his own midi boxes... he could easily find something for
> >us i
> > > >guess..
> > > > > he also programs dsp and such you see!
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "iheartvinyl@n..." <iheartvinyl@n...>
> > > > > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >Subject: [korgpolyex] RE: Parameter wheel
> > > > > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:48:25 GMT
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >that is a really awesome idea. i wish i had electronics
> >knowledge
> > > >to figure
> > > > > >out how to use some kind of dial. the buttons can be replaced
> >by
> > > >another
> > > > > >button easily, but finding a dial that would work must be
> >tricky. i
> > > >might
> > > > > >try to ask some smart buddies if they would be able to do it.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Parameter wheel

2005-08-03 by Philip Linde

I agree, but maybe we could keep the buttons somehow, so that we could
use those for the short-range values. Besides, I think we could find a
encoder with really low resolution so we wouldn't go from 0 to 99 just
by touching the knob.

About the switches, I don't know, but the idea of replacing the
buttons with a dial seems more plausible to me than changing
parameters with dedicated switches.

I'm glad people more handy than myself are interested, though!

Best regards,
Philip Linde

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, russ <russdaren@y...> wrote:
> honestly, the 800 only has a max adjustment range of 31 and alot of
parameters are just 0-1-2 or similar. It seems like it would be a lot
of trouble with little reward. I would rather see switches for
discrete parameters, like high-mid-low for osc range. Or on off
switches for the waveform shape at 16,8,4,2,1. After I finish
rebuilding my Yamaha PM1000 I'll look at it. But I am an analog audio
geek. I know very little about digital control.
>
> jusufzemplin <jusuf@s...> wrote:I though about data-wheel, and I
think it would work on similar
> principe,like control wheel on some monitors. I will try to find some
> details about it...
>
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
> <kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > will email my friend as soon as i get my computer back at home. Im
> pretty
> > sure it will be easy for him to do it as he did hiw own digital
> guitars and
> > tons of do it yourself midiboxes...
> >
> > >From: "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@t...>
> > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
> > >Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 11:22:04 -0000
> > >
> > >Hello!
> > >Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
> > >information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt10_3.htm.
> I
> > >wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the
> solution
> > >to be.
> > >
> > >Sentences like this: "The output terminal becomes the condition
> > >whether or not which connects with the common terminal or whether
> or
> > >not it is not." prevented me from reading it through carefully,
> though :-)
> > >
> > >--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
> > ><kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > > > Just do so, when i'll get more times i'll ask to a pal of mine
> that can
> > > > create his own midi boxes... he could easily find something for
> us i
> > >guess..
> > > > he also programs dsp and such you see!
> > > >
> > > > >From: "iheartvinyl@n..." <iheartvinyl@n...>
> > > > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >Subject: [korgpolyex] RE: Parameter wheel
> > > > >Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:48:25 GMT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >that is a really awesome idea. i wish i had electronics
> knowledge
> > >to figure
> > > > >out how to use some kind of dial. the buttons can be replaced
> by
> > >another
> > > > >button easily, but finding a dial that would work must be
> tricky. i
> > >might
> > > > >try to ask some smart buddies if they would be able to do it.
> > >
> > >
>
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RE: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel

2005-08-03 by guillaume richard

here is an answer i got:

"hmmm.. replacing digital buttons with knobs MIGHT be possible to do with
rotary encoder knobs...
but it wont give you smooth analog operating ranges or anything.."

The last sentence is chinese to me tho :D

>From: "Phoebe October" <october71@...>
>Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
>Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:09:11 -0000
>
>--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@t...>
>wrote:
> > Hello!
> > Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
> > information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt10_3.htm. I
> > wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the solution
> > to be.
>
>Aha...I was never exactly sure how a rotary encoder worked until now.
>Then again, I never really looked into it either. It seems to me that
>the rotary encoder + the up-down detection circuit would fit the bill.
>I may have to give it a try once I start working on modifying my poly800.
>
>Yes, I have some circuit knowledge (but not a ton)...I make and modify
>things.
>
>cya!
>phoebe aka october71
>www.soundclick.com/october71
>
>

Re: Parameter wheel

2005-08-03 by Philip Linde

For example, there will still only be 16 steps for the resonance
parameter, so there will be audible "steps" even though you are
controlling it with a knob, contrary to an analogue synth knob which
is mostly a real potentiometer.

An analogue knob will have an infinite number of steps while the
digital ones are limited to the "resolution" of the chips.

This isn't really a problem for me, as I was mostly thinking about
using the knob to make new patches fast with immediate results, while
most of you seem interested in using it "live".

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
<kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:

> here is an answer i got:
>
> "hmmm.. replacing digital buttons with knobs MIGHT be possible to do

with

> rotary encoder knobs...
> but it wont give you smooth analog operating ranges or anything.."
>
> The last sentence is chinese to me tho :D
>
>
> >From: "Phoebe October" <october71@g...>
> >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
> >Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:09:11 -0000
> >
> >--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@t...>
> >wrote:
> > > Hello!
> > > Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
> > > information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt10_3.htm. I
> > > wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the

solution

> > > to be.
> >
> >Aha...I was never exactly sure how a rotary encoder worked until now.
> >Then again, I never really looked into it either. It seems to me that
> >the rotary encoder + the up-down detection circuit would fit the bill.
> >I may have to give it a try once I start working on modifying my

poly800.

> >
> >Yes, I have some circuit knowledge (but not a ton)...I make and modify
> >things.
> >
> >cya!
> >phoebe aka october71
> >www.soundclick.com/october71
> >
> >

Re: Parameter wheel

2005-08-04 by jusufzemplin

I found some schematics for building mentioned "rotary encoder" (http:
//users.tkk.fi/~jwagner/electr/rotary-enc/), but I dont know , how
exactly connect it to Poly800...(

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@t...>
wrote:

> For example, there will still only be 16 steps for the resonance
> parameter, so there will be audible "steps" even though you are
> controlling it with a knob, contrary to an analogue synth knob which
> is mostly a real potentiometer.
>
> An analogue knob will have an infinite number of steps while the
> digital ones are limited to the "resolution" of the chips.
>
> This isn't really a problem for me, as I was mostly thinking about
> using the knob to make new patches fast with immediate results,

while

> most of you seem interested in using it "live".
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
> <kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > here is an answer i got:
> >
> > "hmmm.. replacing digital buttons with knobs MIGHT be possible to

> with
> > rotary encoder knobs...
> > but it wont give you smooth analog operating ranges or anything.."
> >
> > The last sentence is chinese to me tho :D
> >
> >
> > >From: "Phoebe October" <october71@g...>
> > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
> > >Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:09:11 -0000
> > >
> > >--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Philip Linde" <philip.

linde@t...>

> > >wrote:
> > > > Hello!
> > > > Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
> > > > information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/e_ckt10_3.

htm. I

> > > > wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the
> solution
> > > > to be.
> > >
> > >Aha...I was never exactly sure how a rotary encoder worked until

now.

> > >Then again, I never really looked into it either. It seems to me

that

> > >the rotary encoder + the up-down detection circuit would fit the

bill.

> > >I may have to give it a try once I start working on modifying my
> poly800.
> > >
> > >Yes, I have some circuit knowledge (but not a ton)...I make and

modify

> > >things.
> > >
> > >cya!
> > >phoebe aka october71
> > >www.soundclick.com/october71
> > >
> > >

Re: Parameter wheel

2005-09-16 by jusufzemplin

I found site about self-building synths http://www.ucapps.de/index.
html?page=midibox_fm.html , and they use "rotary encoder", wich can
discharge function of 2 switches (up/down on poly800). Schematics
(http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_fm/mbfm_din_default.pdf) mentions type
STEC16B . here is some informations http://www.marelcom.ch/htm/
e_encoder2.htm .
Hope ,its good streak, and I will find it in our shops...

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "jusufzemplin" <jusuf@s...> wrote:
> I found some schematics for building mentioned "rotary encoder"
(http:
> //users.tkk.fi/~jwagner/electr/rotary-enc/), but I dont know , how
> exactly connect it to Poly800...(
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Philip Linde" <philip.linde@t...
>
> wrote:
> > For example, there will still only be 16 steps for the resonance
> > parameter, so there will be audible "steps" even though you are
> > controlling it with a knob, contrary to an analogue synth knob
which
> > is mostly a real potentiometer.
> >
> > An analogue knob will have an infinite number of steps while the
> > digital ones are limited to the "resolution" of the chips.
> >
> > This isn't really a problem for me, as I was mostly thinking about
> > using the knob to make new patches fast with immediate results,
> while
> > most of you seem interested in using it "live".
> >
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "guillaume richard"
> > <kaneelisdead@h...> wrote:
> > > here is an answer i got:
> > >
> > > "hmmm.. replacing digital buttons with knobs MIGHT be possible
to
> do
> > with
> > > rotary encoder knobs...
> > > but it wont give you smooth analog operating ranges or anything
.."
> > >
> > > The last sentence is chinese to me tho :D
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Phoebe October" <october71@g...>
> > > >Reply-To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Parameter wheel
> > > >Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:09:11 -0000
> > > >
> > > >--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Philip Linde" <philip.
> linde@t...>
> > > >wrote:
> > > > > Hello!
> > > > > Maybe you guys know anyone who can make anything out of this
> > > > > information: http://www.interq.or.jp/japan/se-inoue/
e_ckt10_3.
> htm. I
> > > > > wouldn't know, but it kind of looks like what I expected the
> > solution
> > > > > to be.
> > > >
> > > >Aha...I was never exactly sure how a rotary encoder worked
until
> now.
> > > >Then again, I never really looked into it either. It seems to
me
> that
> > > >the rotary encoder + the up-down detection circuit would fit
the
> bill.
> > > >I may have to give it a try once I start working on modifying
my
> > poly800.
> > > >
> > > >Yes, I have some circuit knowledge (but not a ton)...I make and
> modify
> > > >things.
> > > >
> > > >cya!
> > > >phoebe aka october71
> > > >www.soundclick.com/october71
> > > >
> > > >