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Merging programs

Merging programs

2003-03-13 by Hans Hafner

Hi there,

I don't know if this has been covered, I didn't find it in the 
archive, maybe I chose the wrong words...

is it possible to merge two or more presets into one, or do I have to 
use CDXtract to do that?

Thanks for the help

Cheers
Hans

Re: [EXS] Merging programs

2003-03-14 by Hendrik Jan Veenstra

On a fine day, 13-03-2003, Hans Hafner wrote:

>I don't know if this has been covered, I didn't find it in the
>archive, maybe I chose the wrong words...
>
>is it possible to merge two or more presets into one, or do I have to
>use CDXtract to do that?

I suppose you mean that you want to take 2 EXS programs, and create a 
new one where the original 2 are layered, right?  I don't see what 
cdextract would have to do with that...  Just load the 1st program in 
the EXS and open the Instrument Editor.  Load the next program in the 
EXS, and open another Instrument Editor window.  In the 1st editor, 
select all, copy, and in the 2nd editor window paste.  Then 'save as' 
new program name.  Rather straightforward, isn't it?

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com

Re: [EXS] Merging programs

2003-03-14 by Hans Hafner

>cdextract would have to do with that...  Just load the 1st program in
>the EXS and open the Instrument Editor.  Load the next program in the
>EXS, and open another Instrument Editor window.  In the 1st editor,
>select all, copy, and in the 2nd editor window paste.  Then 'save as'
>new program name.  Rather straightforward, isn't it?

Why do I never try the most obvious thing....??????

Thank you very much, my life is a lot better now!

Cheers
Hans

Re: [EXS] Merging programs

2003-03-14 by Hendrik Jan Veenstra

On a fine day, 14-03-2003, Hans Hafner wrote:

>  >cdextract would have to do with that...  Just load the 1st program in
>>the EXS and open the Instrument Editor.  Load the next program in the
>>EXS, and open another Instrument Editor window.  In the 1st editor,
>>select all, copy, and in the 2nd editor window paste.  Then 'save as'
>>new program name.  Rather straightforward, isn't it?
>
>Why do I never try the most obvious thing....??????

Because you're human :-)

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com

Re: [EXS] Merging programs

2003-03-14 by bob_vandiver

Sir Hendrik schreib

> I suppose you mean that you want to take 2 EXS programs, and create 
a 
> new one where the original 2 are layered, right?  I don't see what 
> cdextract would have to do with that...  Just load the 1st program 
in 
> the EXS and open the Instrument Editor.  Load the next program in 
the 
> EXS, and open another Instrument Editor window.  In the 1st editor, 
> select all, copy, and in the 2nd editor window paste.  Then 'save 
as' 
> new program name.  Rather straightforward, isn't it?

OK, but what if I want to import a set in which one bank is selected 
by one key and the other by a second?

The problem I see is: take bank 1, change group 1 to "select by" and 
designate your key. Now I want to add layer 2. Open that bank and its 
editor. Change that group to "select by" and name another key.

However, both banks are set to group 1. How do you make the second 
bank go to a second group before the merge (doing so afterwards 
would, I would think, be rather labor intensive)?

Inquiring minds......


Bob Vandiver

Re: [EXS] Merging programs

2003-03-14 by bob_vandiver

Sir Hendrik schreib

> I suppose you mean that you want to take 2 EXS programs, and create 
a 
> new one where the original 2 are layered, right?  I don't see what 
> cdextract would have to do with that...  Just load the 1st program 
in 
> the EXS and open the Instrument Editor.  Load the next program in 
the 
> EXS, and open another Instrument Editor window.  In the 1st editor, 
> select all, copy, and in the 2nd editor window paste.  Then 'save 
as' 
> new program name.  Rather straightforward, isn't it?

OK, but what if I want to import a set in which one bank is selected 
by one key and the other by a second?

The problem I see is: take bank 1, change group 1 to "select by" and 
designate your key. Now I want to add layer 2. Open that bank and its 
editor. Change that group to "select by" and name another key.

However, both banks are set to group 1. How do you make the second 
bank go to a second group before the merge (doing so afterwards 
would, I would think, be rather labor intensive)?

Inquiring minds......


Bob Vandiver

Re: [EXS] Merging programs

2003-03-15 by Hendrik Jan Veenstra

On a fine day, 14-03-2003, bob_vandiver wrote:

>OK, but what if I want to import a set in which one bank is selected
>by one key and the other by a second?
>
>The problem I see is: take bank 1, change group 1 to "select by" and
>designate your key. Now I want to add layer 2. Open that bank and its
>editor. Change that group to "select by" and name another key.
>
>However, both banks are set to group 1. How do you make the second
>bank go to a second group before the merge (doing so afterwards
>would, I would think, be rather labor intensive)?

Not sure if I understand your question correctly (the use of the word 
'bank' in the context of the EXS which doesn't have banks confuses 
me), but: if you have 2 EXS programs in which the zones are assigned 
to one group, and you then copy/paste everything (zones plus 
belonging group) into a new editor window, you'll end up with 2 
layers of zones, where each layer is assigned to its own group (since 
you copied the group _with_ the zones when doing the copy/paste). 
It's then fairly easy to change the 'select by' definition of the 2 
groups.

I.e. the trick is to have the original instruments set up properly, 
grouped and all.  Copying and pasting duplicates the original 
structure, so that it's easy to select the original layers in the 
composite instrument.

If I misunderstood your question, please give it another try :-).

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com

Re: [EXS] Merging programs

2003-03-15 by Bob Vandiver

> On a fine day, 14-03-2003, bob_vandiver wrote:
> 
>> OK, but what if I want to import a set in which one bank is selected
>> by one key and the other by a second?
>> 
>> The problem I see is: take bank 1, change group 1 to "select by" and
>> designate your key. Now I want to add layer 2. Open that bank and its
>> editor. Change that group to "select by" and name another key.
>> 
>> However, both banks are set to group 1. How do you make the second
>> bank go to a second group before the merge (doing so afterwards
>> would, I would think, be rather labor intensive)?
> 
> Not sure if I understand your question correctly (the use of the word
> 'bank' in the context of the EXS which doesn't have banks confuses
> me), but: if you have 2 EXS programs in which the zones are assigned
> to one group, and you then copy/paste everything (zones plus
> belonging group) into a new editor window, you'll end up with 2
> layers of zones, where each layer is assigned to its own group (since
> you copied the group _with_ the zones when doing the copy/paste).
> It's then fairly easy to change the 'select by' definition of the 2
> groups.
> 
> I.e. the trick is to have the original instruments set up properly,
> grouped and all.  Copying and pasting duplicates the original
> structure, so that it's easy to select the original layers in the
> composite instrument.
> 
> If I misunderstood your question, please give it another try :-).

No you got it essentially correct Hendrik. I am not sure if I understand you
though either. Let me see if I got it right, Program 1 with its zones are
sent to group 1 in its editor window, Program 2 with its zones assigned to
its group (also group 1). Select all in 2, paste into editor for program 1.

Does the group  1 of program 2 increment upon pasting to group 2
automatically?

BobVandiver

Re: [EXS] Merging programs

2003-03-16 by Sascha Franck

Bob Vandiver wrote:
> Does the group  1 of program 2 increment upon pasting to group 2
> automatically?

Yes.

Sascha

Re: [EXS] Merging programs

2003-03-16 by Murray McDowall

>
> bob_vandiver wrote:
>
> No you got it essentially correct Hendrik. I am not sure if I understand you
> though either. Let me see if I got it right, Program 1 with its zones are
> sent to group 1 in its editor window, Program 2 with its zones assigned to
> its group (also group 1). Select all in 2, paste into editor for program 1.
>
> Does the group  1 of program 2 increment upon pasting to group 2
> automatically?



If you have named your groups they retain their names when pasted, if they are
simply numbered (the default) then the numbers will be revised -- you won't
have two "Group 1"s. 

Regards,
Murray

Re: [EXS] Merging programs

2003-03-16 by Bob Vandiver

Thanks Murray, Sascha and Hendrik!

Bob

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> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:08:01 +1100
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> Subject: Re: [EXS] Merging programs
> 
> 
>> 
>> bob_vandiver wrote:
>> 
>> No you got it essentially correct Hendrik. I am not sure if I understand you
>> though either. Let me see if I got it right, Program 1 with its zones are
>> sent to group 1 in its editor window, Program 2 with its zones assigned to
>> its group (also group 1). Select all in 2, paste into editor for program 1.
>> 
>> Does the group  1 of program 2 increment upon pasting to group 2
>> automatically?
> 
> 
> 
> If you have named your groups they retain their names when pasted, if they are
> simply numbered (the default) then the numbers will be revised -- you won't
> have two "Group 1"s.
> 
> Regards,
> Murray
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