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Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-04 by PersingEP@aol.com

In a message dated 6/4/02 1:47:08 PM, mikaeladle@... writes:

>
>eeh....filter and LFO on every key? Imagine the CPU usage.

Don't have to..Stylus already has this...it's no big deal!

-EP

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-04 by Hector

>>eeh....filter and LFO on every key? Imagine the CPU usage.

  >Don't have to..Stylus already has this...it's no big deal!

  Does stylus use midi sequences like normal Groove Control libraries or Recycle?  If so, can it automatically generate and insert them in the arrange page (like Dr Rex in Reason) or do we have to go throught the rigmarole of importing midi files into Logic?
  regards Hector




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Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by PersingEP@aol.com

In a message dated 6/4/02 4:54:21 PM, hector@... writes:

>  Does stylus use midi sequences like normal Groove Control libraries or
>Recycle?  If so, can it automatically generate and insert them in the arrange
>page (like Dr Rex in Reason) or do we have to go throught the rigmarole
>of importing midi files into Logic?

Right now, Stylus uses normal MIDI sequences like GC libraries do. However, 
here's a neat trick:

You don't need to use the Import MIDI file function of Logic. You can just 
drag and drop the MIDI file directly to the track you want...very fast and 
cool. Put the Stylus MIDI Files directory (or any other GC MIDI Files) in the 
Apple Menu items folder or in the Windows Start menu and you can quickly drag 
and drop right from the Menu!

It's the fastest way to work with Groove Control by far.

Best,

EP

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by Ned Bouhalassa

Eric, thanks for the tip about a MIDI folder in 
the Apple Menu. I do wonder however how I can 
drag-and-drop from the Menu list? It seems all I 
can do is select a file, not drag it...

Ned

PersingEP@... wrote:

>Put the Stylus MIDI Files directory (or any other GC MIDI Files) 
> in the
> Apple Menu items folder or in the Windows Start menu and you can quickly 
> drag
> and drop right from the Menu!




http://www.nedfx.com

       Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by Ned Bouhalassa

That's what I thought... thanks!

Ned

PS: there might be a utility out there that allows 
you to 'tear' off a file from the Apple menu, no?

HELP@... wrote:

> On the Mac, click and release the parent folder in the Apple menu containing
> the midi track you want. This will open the parent folder of the midi track
> so you can drag the midi track to Logic.



http://www.nedfx.com

       Ned Bouhalassa

n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

> You don't need to use the Import MIDI file function of Logic. You can just
> drag and drop the MIDI file directly to the track you want...very fast and
> cool. Put the Stylus MIDI Files directory (or any other GC MIDI Files) in the
> Apple Menu items folder or in the Windows Start menu and you can quickly drag
> and drop right from the Menu!

Actually, I prefer this.

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by PersingEP@aol.com

In a message dated 6/6/02 5:45:32 AM, ned@... writes:

>Eric, thanks for the tip about a MIDI folder in 
>the Apple Menu. 

Sure Ned.....

It's really cool to put your Main Groove Control folder in there, with Sub 
folders of each of the GC products MIDI files you have. It keeps everything 
really organized and accessable.

Best,

EP

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

> Eric, thanks for the tip about a MIDI folder in
> the Apple Menu. I do wonder however how I can
> drag-and-drop from the Menu list? It seems all I
> can do is select a file, not drag it...

On the Mac, click and release the parent folder in the Apple menu containing
the midi track you want. This will open the parent folder of the midi track
so you can drag the midi track to Logic.

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by Hendrik Jan Veenstra

Thoughts from the mind of PersingEP@..., 06-06-2002:

>In a message dated 6/6/02 5:45:32 AM, ned@... writes:
>
>>Eric, thanks for the tip about a MIDI folder in
>>the Apple Menu.
>
>Sure Ned.....
>
>It's really cool to put your Main Groove Control folder in there, with Sub
>folders of each of the GC products MIDI files you have. It keeps everything
>really organized and accessable.

Now that we're on this subject: ever since Aliasses were added to the 
OS, I've always put aliasses to my harddisks in the Apple Menu. 
Apple recommends against doing this, but it has always worked.  Sure 
beats navigating folders by doubleclick-opening them one by one. 
It's just a pity that nested menus only go 5 deep...

Taking the MIDI folder suggestion plus my own a bit further: you 
could make aliasses to all your 'important' audio-related folders 
and/or audio applications, create a new "Audio" folder in the Apple 
Menu folder (for organisational purposes), and dump all aliasses in 
there.
I've done that with all relevant apps and such, and hardly ever have 
to manually navigate my HDs anymore.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

> PS: there might be a utility out there that allows
> you to 'tear' off a file from the Apple menu, no?

Haven't heard of one yet.

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

> Now that we're on this subject: ever since Aliasses were added to the
> OS, I've always put aliasses to my harddisks in the Apple Menu.
> Apple recommends against doing this, but it has always worked.  Sure
> beats navigating folders by doubleclick-opening them one by one.
> It's just a pity that nested menus only go 5 deep...

This has worked since I started using the Mac since at least MacOS7.0 I do a
lot of things Apple doesn't recommend. That's what I love about Macs.
Regardless of the bureaucracy, the thing does exactly what I want it to do.
Macs are pretty powerful in the hands of customization. They are really
flexible. You just have to know how to exploit them. Doesn't come with a
start menu? Why, I'll just make my own, that works better than any other...
(Incidentally, it's the same corporate dumbness that excluded the apple menu
in OSX. A backlash from the Mac community ushered a quick reintroduction of
the feature. Duh!). The only reason the practice you mention may not be
recommended (that I can think of) is that, if you place a removable drive in
the apple menu and the drive is later unattached, the alias gets confused.
Permanently attached HDs never have a problem. An added benefit to putting
your HD in the apple menu is that you also get to bore down through your
desktop folder which is located on the root directory of the disk but is
otherwise invisible. My desktop stays pretty full, and this is the only way
you can quickly drill down to sub-items on the desktop. -Jer

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by Hector

In a message dated 6/4/02 4:54:21 PM, hector@... writes:

  >>  Does stylus use midi sequences like normal Groove Control libraries or
  >>Recycle?  If so, can it automatically generate and insert them in the arrange
  >>page (like Dr Rex in Reason) or do we have to go throught the rigmarole
  >>of importing midi files into Logic?

  PersingEP@... replied:

  >You can just drag and drop the MIDI file directly to the track you want...very fast and 
  >cool. Put the Stylus MIDI Files directory (or any other GC MIDI Files) in the 
  >Apple Menu items folder or in the Windows Start menu and you can quickly drag 
  >.and drop right from the Menu!

  >It's the fastest way to work with Groove Control by far.

  Thanks for replying Eric.  

  I am on a windows platform and cannot get your suggestion to work.  I have copied the midi sequences folder for EthnoTechno into the C;\Windows\Start Menu directory and yes it shows up with all the sub folders in the start menu.  I can drag a .mid file to a point over my arrange page but when I release it no sequence appears on the page.  I have never managed to drag and drop anything into Logic.  Any ideas?  

  Cheers Hector.


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Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by PersingEP@aol.com

In a message dated 6/6/02 12:17:04 PM, hector@... writes:

>  I am on a windows platform and cannot get your suggestion to work.  I
>have copied the midi sequences folder for EthnoTechno into the 
C;\Windows\Start
>Menu directory and yes it shows up with all the sub folders in the start
>menu.  I can drag a .mid file to a point over my arrange page but when
>I release it no sequence appears on the page.  I have never managed to
>drag and drop anything into Logic.  Any ideas?  

Make sure you drag it to a MIDI track or an Audio Instrument track. Works 
over here on Win98SE-XP.

-EP

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by Eppo Schaap

> >  I am on a windows platform and cannot get your suggestion to work.  I
> >have copied the midi sequences folder for EthnoTechno into the
> C;\Windows\Start
> >Menu directory and yes it shows up with all the sub folders in the start
> >menu.  I can drag a .mid file to a point over my arrange page but when
> >I release it no sequence appears on the page.  I have never managed to
> >drag and drop anything into Logic.  Any ideas?

I always drag & drop out of explorer, *not* from the start menu... Open the
midifile folder in explorer and drag to the Logic Arrange Window. Works OK
here.

Eppo Schaap
Galbatron Epic Symphonic Electronica
www.galbatron.com
music: www.mp3.com/galbatron
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Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by Hector

>>I release it no sequence appears on the page.  I have never managed to
  >>drag and drop anything into Logic.  Any ideas?  

  >Make sure you drag it to a MIDI track or an Audio Instrument track. Works 
  >over here on Win98SE-XP.


  I have tried that with no joy.  Looks like I will be calling the emagic helpline over this one. Thanks anyway,  Hector.



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Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by Colin Shapiro

Hendrik Jan Veenstra wrote:
>........ ever since Aliasses were added to the
>OS, I've always put aliasses to my harddisks in the Apple Menu.
>Apple recommends against doing this, but it has always worked.

I've been doing that for years too. One problem I find is that the 
Apple menu seems to "forget" what should be in the hierarchical menus 
from time to time. (Yes, I do rebuild my dektop). I have to open the 
Apple Menu Items folder, drag an item out, then back again, and all 
is fixed. Strange....does that happen to you?

Regards - Colin

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-06 by Colin Shapiro

Jer wrote:
>Incidentally, it's the same corporate dumbness that excluded the apple menu
>in OSX. A backlash from the Mac community ushered a quick reintroduction of
>the feature.

Another thing they left out in OSX is the Application Menu.
Luckily, someone has created a "haXie" which re-instates that.......

Regards - Colin

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-07 by HELP@MusicBootCamp.com

> I've been doing that for years too. One problem I find is that the
> Apple menu seems to "forget" what should be in the hierarchical menus
> from time to time. (Yes, I do rebuild my dektop). I have to open the
> Apple Menu Items folder, drag an item out, then back again, and all
> is fixed. Strange....does that happen to you?

I've never had this happen. Strange.

Re: [exs] Re: EXS Sample management?

2002-06-07 by Hendrik Jan Veenstra

Thoughts from the mind of Colin Shapiro, 07-06-2002:

>Hendrik Jan Veenstra wrote:
>>........ ever since Aliasses were added to the
>>OS, I've always put aliasses to my harddisks in the Apple Menu.
>>Apple recommends against doing this, but it has always worked.
>
>I've been doing that for years too. One problem I find is that the
>Apple menu seems to "forget" what should be in the hierarchical menus
>from time to time. (Yes, I do rebuild my dektop). I have to open the
>Apple Menu Items folder, drag an item out, then back again, and all
>is fixed. Strange....does that happen to you?

I'm not sure if I understand correctly, but sometimes the HD-aliasses 
stop having hierarchical menus -- i.e. they behave as if the alias 
points to a file instead of a folder.  Deleting the alias and making 
a new one fixes that.  Maybe moving it out of & into the Apple Menu 
folder works equally well.

When having removable media (to reply to another remark in this 
thread) the system can get confused as to which alias points to which 
HD -- so your System partition can suddenly get the hierachical menus 
of your Application partition.  I think the aliasses to HDs are not 
assigned by name but by SCSI (or whatever you use) ID.  So when the 
order/ID of the disks changes, the aliasses get mixed up.

-- 
Hendrik Jan Veenstra  <h@...>
Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Translator Mac

2002-06-07 by Brian Gascoigne

Hi all
I've been sent a working version of this by the lovely Chicken 
people, but I can't get it to put the .exs files in the Sampler 
Instruments folder and the samples on an external drive, wwhatever I 
select in the options box.  Anybody got this working? Regards Brian

Re: [exs] Translator Mac

2002-06-08 by Chicken Systems

At 09:06 AM 6/7/02 +0100, you wrote:

>I've been sent a working version of this by the lovely Chicken
>people, but I can't get it to put the .exs files in the Sampler
>Instruments folder and the samples on an external drive, wwhatever I
>select in the options box.  Anybody got this working? Regards Brian

There may be a couple reasons. First, you may have an e-mail temporary 
version, and you haven't downloaded the extra Setup files from our web 
site. There may have been people that we neglected to mention this to. That 
could cause the .exs files not to be written. Another could be that they 
being written to the location mention in Options, but you aren't looking 
there. The last reason that I've seen is that they are buried in the middle 
of all the AIFF or WAVE files that are written, if you've chosen to write 
both types of files in the same location.

If none of these solves the issue, send us a log file of your session and 
we'll look at it and respond real quick. Do it to support@..., 
of course, not to the list.

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