EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

Hello,

for the record, I thought that Emagic have nowhere announced that
they actually do S3000 conversion already. So it's no surprise that
your conversion doesn't work. 

I think they only advertised S1000 conversion.

Cheers,
    Henrik

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <pbuckle@...>
To: <exs-users@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 1:44 PM
Subject: [exs] Re: Sampler newbie with 3rd party questions


> --- In exs-users@egroups.com, Shane Fawkes <sfawkes@d...> 
> wrote:
> 
> > For starters, I think I'll limit myself to percussion oriented 
> stuff...I'll
> > deal with other acoustic instruments afterwards. Particularly, I 
> was
> > intrigued by the 'groove control' percussion examples in the 
> promo that ilio
> > included. From what you hear of the 'retro funk' and/or the 
> 'liquid grooves'
> > stuff, they seem to be along the lines of what I'm looking for, 
> but I was
> > hoping to find some more examples or at least an index of 
> them before I put
> > down any coin for them. I may have missed it, but didn't find 
> much
> > additional info at www.ilio.com. Do any of you have any 
> comments/experience
> > with these products? Any other suggestions that you consider 
> worth me
> > looking at? 
> > 
> Ineresting that you should mention Groove Control and 
> RetroFunk because I own just about every Spectrasonic disc 
> there is.
> Eric Persing is so amazing and those products are worth every 
> cent.
> So here's the scoop for you EXS24 owners........I'm not one yet 
> but I've just spent two days with a friend who made the purchase 
> and I can convey to you that.............it don't work!!!
> There are two main problems with the EXS24...this is my 
> contention so please tell me I'm wrong.
> The first and biggest is that the Akai conversion does not work 
> properly.
> 1. About a third of the instruments or programs don't show up in 
> the EXS24 Akai conversion window. They do show up in 
> Osmosis and Interpreter...these are two Akai conversion 
> prog.........they only convert to Sample Cell though.
> 2 Of the instruments that do show up only some can be 
> translated. The others simply won't convert.
> With the Akai S3000 Danny Jaeger violin library disk not even a 
> third of the prog could be translated.
> Converting an entire Partition containing 20 instruments resulted 
> in just 2 instruments being converted. You can't even individually 
> select the other instruments and convert......nothing happens.
> The other main problem....and this only occured with 
> RetroGrooves.......is that of the samples that do convert. all have 
> an almighty click at the start of them. So your sequence sounds 
> like type writers.
> Ahhhh!!!  you say just shorten the "Start Fixed" amount and all will 
> be well............no it won't . You lose the dynamic attack of the 
> instrument....because the click will disappear from some 
> samples and not others so by the time you've shortened the start 
> time you've ruined half the samples. The work around is to 
> individually shorten every sample in the editor.
> With Retro Grooves there are sometimes over 100 samples in 
> one prog!! Forget it.
> As someone with a large investment in Akai and SampleCell CD 
> roms I am going to wait untill Emagic get this right before I 
> purchase.
> If you can't translate the vast library available then why make the 
> investment?
> Oh by the way Akai S1000 disks translated ok.........but they 
> sound so awful these days.....who could be bothered.
> So I am really saying that the S3000 conversion doesn't work yet.
> Why advertise that it does?
> Phil Buckle.
> 

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Henrik Klagges
Corporate Strategy
ConSol Software GmbH