EXS 24 Logic Sampler Users Group

--- In exs-users@egroups.com, Shane Fawkes <sfawkes@d...> 
wrote:

> For starters, I think I'll limit myself to percussion oriented 
stuff...I'll
> deal with other acoustic instruments afterwards. Particularly, I 
was
> intrigued by the 'groove control' percussion examples in the 
promo that ilio
> included. From what you hear of the 'retro funk' and/or the 
'liquid grooves'
> stuff, they seem to be along the lines of what I'm looking for, 
but I was
> hoping to find some more examples or at least an index of 
them before I put
> down any coin for them. I may have missed it, but didn't find 
much
> additional info at www.ilio.com. Do any of you have any 
comments/experience
> with these products? Any other suggestions that you consider 
worth me
> looking at? 
> 
Ineresting that you should mention Groove Control and 
RetroFunk because I own just about every Spectrasonic disc 
there is.
Eric Persing is so amazing and those products are worth every 
cent.
So here's the scoop for you EXS24 owners........I'm not one yet 
but I've just spent two days with a friend who made the purchase 
and I can convey to you that.............it don't work!!!
There are two main problems with the EXS24...this is my 
contention so please tell me I'm wrong.
The first and biggest is that the Akai conversion does not work 
properly.
1. About a third of the instruments or programs don't show up in 
the EXS24 Akai conversion window. They do show up in 
Osmosis and Interpreter...these are two Akai conversion 
prog.........they only convert to Sample Cell though.
2 Of the instruments that do show up only some can be 
translated. The others simply won't convert.
With the Akai S3000 Danny Jaeger violin library disk not even a 
third of the prog could be translated.
Converting an entire Partition containing 20 instruments resulted 
in just 2 instruments being converted. You can't even individually 
select the other instruments and convert......nothing happens.
The other main problem....and this only occured with 
RetroGrooves.......is that of the samples that do convert. all have 
an almighty click at the start of them. So your sequence sounds 
like type writers.
Ahhhh!!!  you say just shorten the "Start Fixed" amount and all will 
be well............no it won't . You lose the dynamic attack of the 
instrument....because the click will disappear from some 
samples and not others so by the time you've shortened the start 
time you've ruined half the samples. The work around is to 
individually shorten every sample in the editor.
With Retro Grooves there are sometimes over 100 samples in 
one prog!! Forget it.
As someone with a large investment in Akai and SampleCell CD 
roms I am going to wait untill Emagic get this right before I 
purchase.
If you can't translate the vast library available then why make the 
investment?
Oh by the way Akai S1000 disks translated ok.........but they 
sound so awful these days.....who could be bothered.
So I am really saying that the S3000 conversion doesn't work yet.
Why advertise that it does?
Phil Buckle.