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SCSI ZIP

2012-10-15 by Christopher K Moffatt

Does anyone have a internal SCSI Zip drive for sale in the UK please.

 

Chris



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SCSI ZIP

2014-09-16 by niklas.ehrlin@...

If the Emax 1 OS cant handle filesystems bigger than 20 MB, is it even possible to format a Zip disk of 100 MB?

I planning on revoving the faulty HDD in my Emax and install an internal Iomega Zip100, SCSI.

Niklas

Re: SCSI ZIP

2014-09-16 by niklas.ehrlin@...

Found an old post: Format the Zip-disks in an Win XP PC with zip-drive and EMXP. That makes sense.

Niklas

Re: SCSI ZIP

2014-09-23 by niklas.ehrlin@...

Ok, I'll have to continue ask on this topic:

I switched the faulty internal HDD to an internal Iomega Z100Si (SCSI ZIp) and used the same SCSI cable that previously was connected to the internal HDD. And made sure that the cable was connected correctly, pin 1 to nr 1 on the cable.

I set the SCSI id to 0, (termination; on) on the Internal drive.

The only mod I did was to only connect the +5V cable for the power supply, as only +5V was stated on the ZIP-drive. So the +12V line was left unused.

I loaded a floppy with the Plus OS and made sure that the SCSI Id was 0 (by holding transpose-button).

But - I only get "HD format error" when trying to acces the drive (which I have loaded with a pre-manufactured ZIP-disk with Emax-sounds bought of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/301299193629?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Any suggestions? Could it be the 12V-line?

Niklas

Re: [emax] Re: SCSI ZIP

2014-09-23 by Robert Van Kuran

Use EMXP to load a zip disk image with banks to the zip disk.
Then try again. Worked for me.

-RVK

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> On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:41 PM, "niklas.ehrlin@yahoo.com [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I'll have to continue ask on this topic:
> 
> 
> I switched the faulty internal HDD to an internal Iomega Z100Si (SCSI ZIp) and used the same SCSI cable that previously was connected to the internal HDD. And made sure that the cable was connected correctly, pin 1 to nr 1 on the cable.
> I set the SCSI id to 0, (termination; on) on the Internal drive. 
> The only mod I did was to only connect the +5V cable for the power supply, as only +5V was stated on the ZIP-drive. So the +12V line was left unused.
> I loaded a floppy with the Plus OS and made sure that the SCSI Id was 0 (by holding transpose-button).
> But - I only get "HD format error" when trying to acces the drive (which I have loaded with a pre-manufactured ZIP-disk with Emax-sounds bought of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/301299193629?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
> 
> Any suggestions? Could it be the 12V-line?
> Niklas
>  
> 
>  
>

Re: [emax] Re: SCSI ZIP

2014-09-23 by Ted Summers

I would have thought the 12V line would have been used for the motor on the zip.

However, if the motor is spinning and the light comes on the drive, then likely something wrong with the image or the head alignment of the zip drive may not match the alignment of the drive it was written from….

that would be my thoughts.

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Robert Van Kuran guitar5l50@... [emax] wrote:

Use EMXP to load a zip disk image with banks to the zip disk.

Then try again. Worked for me.

-RVK

On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:41 PM, "niklas.ehrlin@... [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll have to continue ask on this topic:

I switched the faulty internal HDD to an internal Iomega Z100Si (SCSI ZIp) and used the same SCSI cable that previously was connected to the internal HDD. And made sure that the cable was connected correctly, pin 1 to nr 1 on the cable.
I set the SCSI id to 0, (termination; on) on the Internal drive.
The only mod I did was to only connect the +5V cable for the power supply, as only +5V was stated on the ZIP-drive. So the +12V line was left unused.
I loaded a floppy with the Plus OS and made sure that the SCSI Id was 0 (by holding transpose-button).
But - I only get "HD format error" when trying to acces the drive (which I have loaded with a pre-manufactured ZIP-disk with Emax-sounds bought of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/301299193629?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Any suggestions? Could it be the 12V-line?
Niklas

Re: [emax] Re: SCSI ZIP

2014-09-23 by Niklas Ehrlin

Ok, i'll try to use the 12V line as well. i was just afraid to fry the drive, since it only stated 5V on the drive itself.

Robert: Did you make a bootable ZIP-disk (internal SCSI Zip-drive)? If so, do you simply put both the OS and some soundbanks on the disk in EMXP?

/niklas

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2014-09-23 16:46 GMT+02:00 Ted Summers djtbs1@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

I would have thought the 12V line would have been used for the motor on the zip.
However, if the motor is spinning and the light comes on the drive, then likely something wrong with the image or the head alignment of the zip drive may not match the alignment of the drive it was written from….

that would be my thoughts.

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Robert Van Kuran guitar5l50@... [emax] wrote:

Use EMXP to load a zip disk image with banks to the zip disk.
Then try again. Worked for me.

-RVK

On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:41 PM, "niklas.ehrlin@... [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll have to continue ask on this topic:

I switched the faulty internal HDD to an internal Iomega Z100Si (SCSI ZIp) and used the same SCSI cable that previously was connected to the internal HDD. And made sure that the cable was connected correctly, pin 1 to nr 1 on the cable.
I set the SCSI id to 0, (termination; on) on the Internal drive.
The only mod I did was to only connect the +5V cable for the power supply, as only +5V was stated on the ZIP-drive. So the +12V line was left unused.
I loaded a floppy with the Plus OS and made sure that the SCSI Id was 0 (by holding transpose-button).
But - I only get "HD format error" when trying to acces the drive (which I have loaded with a pre-manufactured ZIP-disk with Emax-sounds bought of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/301299193629?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Any suggestions? Could it be the 12V-line?
Niklas

Re: [emax] Re: SCSI ZIP

2014-09-23 by Ted Summers

If you are on the drop box hosted by Andre, there are the 5 working factory HD images up there, which I have already tested as bootable on flash media, Zip, and HD.

Regards

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Niklas Ehrlin niklas.ehrlin@... [emax] wrote:

Ok, i'll try to use the 12V line as well. i was just afraid to fry the drive, since it only stated 5V on the drive itself.

Robert: Did you make a bootable ZIP-disk (internal SCSI Zip-drive)? If so, do you simply put both the OS and some soundbanks on the disk in EMXP?

/niklas

2014-09-23 16:46 GMT+02:00 Ted Summers djtbs1@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

I would have thought the 12V line would have been used for the motor on the zip.
However, if the motor is spinning and the light comes on the drive, then likely something wrong with the image or the head alignment of the zip drive may not match the alignment of the drive it was written from….

that would be my thoughts.

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Robert Van Kuran guitar5l50@... [emax] wrote:

Use EMXP to load a zip disk image with banks to the zip disk.
Then try again. Worked for me.

-RVK

On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:41 PM, "niklas.ehrlin@... [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll have to continue ask on this topic:

I switched the faulty internal HDD to an internal Iomega Z100Si (SCSI ZIp) and used the same SCSI cable that previously was connected to the internal HDD. And made sure that the cable was connected correctly, pin 1 to nr 1 on the cable.
I set the SCSI id to 0, (termination; on) on the Internal drive.
The only mod I did was to only connect the +5V cable for the power supply, as only +5V was stated on the ZIP-drive. So the +12V line was left unused.
I loaded a floppy with the Plus OS and made sure that the SCSI Id was 0 (by holding transpose-button).
But - I only get "HD format error" when trying to acces the drive (which I have loaded with a pre-manufactured ZIP-disk with Emax-sounds bought of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/301299193629?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Any suggestions? Could it be the 12V-line?
Niklas

Re: [emax] Re: SCSI ZIP

2014-09-24 by Niklas Ehrlin

Ok, thanks I will contact him.

But I have to ask, when you have installed internal ZIP-drive (as I imagine that you have, since youve made a bootable Zip) have you used both the 5V and the 12V?

Niklas

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2014-09-23 22:26 GMT+02:00 Ted Summers djtbs1@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

If you are on the drop box hosted by Andre, there are the 5 working factory HD images up there, which I have already tested as bootable on flash media, Zip, and HD.

Regards

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Niklas Ehrlin niklas.ehrlin@... [emax] wrote:

Ok, i'll try to use the 12V line as well. i was just afraid to fry the drive, since it only stated 5V on the drive itself.

Robert: Did you make a bootable ZIP-disk (internal SCSI Zip-drive)? If so, do you simply put both the OS and some soundbanks on the disk in EMXP?

/niklas

2014-09-23 16:46 GMT+02:00 Ted Summers djtbs1@... [emax] <emax@...m>:

I would have thought the 12V line would have been used for the motor on the zip.
However, if the motor is spinning and the light comes on the drive, then likely something wrong with the image or the head alignment of the zip drive may not match the alignment of the drive it was written from….

that would be my thoughts.

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Robert Van Kuran guitar5l50@... [emax] wrote:

Use EMXP to load a zip disk image with banks to the zip disk.
Then try again. Worked for me.

-RVK

On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:41 PM, "niklas.ehrlin@... [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll have to continue ask on this topic:

I switched the faulty internal HDD to an internal Iomega Z100Si (SCSI ZIp) and used the same SCSI cable that previously was connected to the internal HDD. And made sure that the cable was connected correctly, pin 1 to nr 1 on the cable.
I set the SCSI id to 0, (termination; on) on the Internal drive.
The only mod I did was to only connect the +5V cable for the power supply, as only +5V was stated on the ZIP-drive. So the +12V line was left unused.
I loaded a floppy with the Plus OS and made sure that the SCSI Id was 0 (by holding transpose-button).
But - I only get "HD format error" when trying to acces the drive (which I have loaded with a pre-manufactured ZIP-disk with Emax-sounds bought of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/301299193629?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Any suggestions? Could it be the 12V-line?
Niklas

Re: [emax] Re: SCSI ZIP

2014-09-24 by Kirk@...

My Zip Drive wall wart power supplies are 5V 1A, center positive. 12V is not needed.

Kirk

Re: [emax] Re: SCSI ZIP

2014-09-24 by Ted Summers

I just use standard power adapters with all wires (no modifications).

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 11:30 PM, Niklas Ehrlin niklas.ehrlin@... [emax] wrote:

Ok, thanks I will contact him.

But I have to ask, when you have installed internal ZIP-drive (as I imagine that you have, since youve made a bootable Zip) have you used both the 5V and the 12V?

Niklas

2014-09-23 22:26 GMT+02:00 Ted Summers djtbs1@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

If you are on the drop box hosted by Andre, there are the 5 working factory HD images up there, which I have already tested as bootable on flash media, Zip, and HD.

Regards

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Niklas Ehrlin niklas.ehrlin@gmail.com [emax] wrote:

Ok, i'll try to use the 12V line as well. i was just afraid to fry the drive, since it only stated 5V on the drive itself.

Robert: Did you make a bootable ZIP-disk (internal SCSI Zip-drive)? If so, do you simply put both the OS and some soundbanks on the disk in EMXP?

/niklas

2014-09-23 16:46 GMT+02:00 Ted Summers djtbs1@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

I would have thought the 12V line would have been used for the motor on the zip.
However, if the motor is spinning and the light comes on the drive, then likely something wrong with the image or the head alignment of the zip drive may not match the alignment of the drive it was written from….

that would be my thoughts.

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Robert Van Kuran guitar5l50@... [emax] wrote:

Use EMXP to load a zip disk image with banks to the zip disk.
Then try again. Worked for me.

-RVK

On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:41 PM, "niklas.ehrlin@... [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll have to continue ask on this topic:

I switched the faulty internal HDD to an internal Iomega Z100Si (SCSI ZIp) and used the same SCSI cable that previously was connected to the internal HDD. And made sure that the cable was connected correctly, pin 1 to nr 1 on the cable.
I set the SCSI id to 0, (termination; on) on the Internal drive.
The only mod I did was to only connect the +5V cable for the power supply, as only +5V was stated on the ZIP-drive. So the +12V line was left unused.
I loaded a floppy with the Plus OS and made sure that the SCSI Id was 0 (by holding transpose-button).
But - I only get "HD format error" when trying to acces the drive (which I have loaded with a pre-manufactured ZIP-disk with Emax-sounds bought of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/301299193629?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Any suggestions? Could it be the 12V-line?
Niklas

Re: [emax] Re: SCSI ZIP

2014-09-24 by Ted Summers

I agree after looking at the labels on the drives, the Zip doesn't use 12V at all. only +5.

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 11:30 PM, Niklas Ehrlin niklas.ehrlin@... [emax] wrote:

Ok, thanks I will contact him.

But I have to ask, when you have installed internal ZIP-drive (as I imagine that you have, since youve made a bootable Zip) have you used both the 5V and the 12V?

Niklas

2014-09-23 22:26 GMT+02:00 Ted Summers djtbs1@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

If you are on the drop box hosted by Andre, there are the 5 working factory HD images up there, which I have already tested as bootable on flash media, Zip, and HD.

Regards

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Niklas Ehrlin niklas.ehrlin@... [emax] wrote:

Ok, i'll try to use the 12V line as well. i was just afraid to fry the drive, since it only stated 5V on the drive itself.

Robert: Did you make a bootable ZIP-disk (internal SCSI Zip-drive)? If so, do you simply put both the OS and some soundbanks on the disk in EMXP?

/niklas

2014-09-23 16:46 GMT+02:00 Ted Summers djtbs1@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

I would have thought the 12V line would have been used for the motor on the zip.
However, if the motor is spinning and the light comes on the drive, then likely something wrong with the image or the head alignment of the zip drive may not match the alignment of the drive it was written from….

that would be my thoughts.

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Robert Van Kuran guitar5l50@... [emax] wrote:

Use EMXP to load a zip disk image with banks to the zip disk.
Then try again. Worked for me.

-RVK

On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:41 PM, "niklas.ehrlin@... [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll have to continue ask on this topic:

I switched the faulty internal HDD to an internal Iomega Z100Si (SCSI ZIp) and used the same SCSI cable that previously was connected to the internal HDD. And made sure that the cable was connected correctly, pin 1 to nr 1 on the cable.
I set the SCSI id to 0, (termination; on) on the Internal drive.
The only mod I did was to only connect the +5V cable for the power supply, as only +5V was stated on the ZIP-drive. So the +12V line was left unused.
I loaded a floppy with the Plus OS and made sure that the SCSI Id was 0 (by holding transpose-button).
But - I only get "HD format error" when trying to acces the drive (which I have loaded with a pre-manufactured ZIP-disk with Emax-sounds bought of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/301299193629?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Any suggestions? Could it be the 12V-line?
Niklas

Re: [emax] Re: SCSI ZIP

2014-09-25 by Niklas Ehrlin

Ok, confirmed then. I think that drives that does not us the 12V line simply terminate that at the connection, but I did not want to risk anything. But I guess these Zip-drives do infact terminate the 12V as you havent had any problems on using both the 5V and the 12V.

I'll try to make a HD image the next time Im in the studio and see if it works. - Tying to revive this Emax is definitly the best hobby I've ever had - thank you all for the support!

Niklas

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2014-09-24 19:12 GMT+02:00 Ted Summers djtbs1@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

I agree after looking at the labels on the drives, the Zip doesn't use 12V at all. only +5.

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 11:30 PM, Niklas Ehrlin niklas.ehrlin@... [emax] wrote:

Ok, thanks I will contact him.
But I have to ask, when you have installed internal ZIP-drive (as I imagine that you have, since youve made a bootable Zip) have you used both the 5V and the 12V?

Niklas

2014-09-23 22:26 GMT+02:00 Ted Summers djtbs1@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

If you are on the drop box hosted by Andre, there are the 5 working factory HD images up there, which I have already tested as bootable on flash media, Zip, and HD.

Regards

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Niklas Ehrlin niklas.ehrlin@... [emax] wrote:

Ok, i'll try to use the 12V line as well. i was just afraid to fry the drive, since it only stated 5V on the drive itself.

Robert: Did you make a bootable ZIP-disk (internal SCSI Zip-drive)? If so, do you simply put both the OS and some soundbanks on the disk in EMXP?

/niklas

2014-09-23 16:46 GMT+02:00 Ted Summers djtbs1@gmail.com [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

I would have thought the 12V line would have been used for the motor on the zip.
However, if the motor is spinning and the light comes on the drive, then likely something wrong with the image or the head alignment of the zip drive may not match the alignment of the drive it was written from….

that would be my thoughts.

-T

On Sep 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Robert Van Kuran guitar5l50@... [emax] wrote:

Use EMXP to load a zip disk image with banks to the zip disk.
Then try again. Worked for me.

-RVK

On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:41 PM, "niklas.ehrlin@... [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ok, I'll have to continue ask on this topic:

I switched the faulty internal HDD to an internal Iomega Z100Si (SCSI ZIp) and used the same SCSI cable that previously was connected to the internal HDD. And made sure that the cable was connected correctly, pin 1 to nr 1 on the cable.
I set the SCSI id to 0, (termination; on) on the Internal drive.
The only mod I did was to only connect the +5V cable for the power supply, as only +5V was stated on the ZIP-drive. So the +12V line was left unused.
I loaded a floppy with the Plus OS and made sure that the SCSI Id was 0 (by holding transpose-button).
But - I only get "HD format error" when trying to acces the drive (which I have loaded with a pre-manufactured ZIP-disk with Emax-sounds bought of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/301299193629?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Any suggestions? Could it be the 12V-line?
Niklas