Emax

Hi all!

I was thinking what is the difference between Emax Plus 1.0 and Emax 
SE HD 1.1?

cheers/
niklas

I have an Emax for sale. It is excellent condition,
has manual. Asking $300. If anyone is interested, let
me know.

Thanks

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Hi,
The Plus 1.0 OS supports external SCSI drives, like a ZIP100. The HD
versions don't.

Regards
Rob

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Niklas Olsson [mailto:niklas627@...]
  Sent: 26 September 2001 09:12
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [emax] (unknown)


  Hi all!

  I was thinking what is the difference between Emax Plus 1.0 and Emax
  SE HD 1.1?

  cheers/
  niklas


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On Wednesday, September 26, 2001, at 12:09 PM, Rob EmuArc wrote:

> Hi,
> The Plus 1.0 OS supports external SCSI drives, like a ZIP100. The HD
> versions don't.
>

Though some of the units don't have an external SCSI connector, any unit 
that supports internal SCSI can technically support external SCSI. It 
would be a matter of getting yourself some 25-pin ribbon cable, some 
connectors and screws and making a hole in the back of the unit.

Of course, only attempt this if you have a fairly good understanding of 
working on electronic gear, though it is mostly a mechanical effort. In 
other words, mechanical activity has a tendency to leave things like 
metal shavings and such, and that would be bad to get into your 
electronics.


>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Niklas Olsson [mailto:niklas627@...]
>   Sent: 26 September 2001 09:12
>
>   Hi all!
>
>   I was thinking what is the difference between Emax Plus 1.0 and Emax
>   SE HD 1.1?

The software version is independent of the hardware version. Any machine 
can run the latest software.

The SE moniker is a software only feature (i.e. it runs on any hardware) 
that means 'Synthesis Enhanced' and adds some some wacky ways to create 
new waveforms. Spectrum Interpolation is like an Additive Synthesis 
system combined with some time based parametric shaping control, and 
Transform Multiplication is a way to combine (convolve) two waveforms 
together to make a new sound. Kind of like a weird form of morphing two 
sounds.

I think there may be some other features, or at least bug fixes in 1.1, 
but I can't remember of the top of my head. It's probably better than 
1.0 ;-)

Scott

Hi,
Yep - if you have an Emax with an internal hard drive, you can hook up a
SCSI external drive with a DB25 external to DB50 internal SCSI adapter plus
a 50pin internal SCSI cable for 2 devices. We will be offering a kit soon.
However you can't select the SCSI ID of the external drive unless you have
the Plus OS. Which means you can't format or access the external drive. The
HD OS versions only cope with one SCSI drive.

Upgrade details and some cool manuals are on our web site at this address:

http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Samplers/EmaxOverview/EmaxSCSI/emaxscsi.html

We also have the Plus OS for download.

Regards

Rob
The Emulator Archive
www.emulatorarchive.com



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Hello

 I try to upgrade my Emax HD to SE or Plus but without any luck.
 EMX works fine for making sample disks,but OS transfer dosn't work.
 I'll try different computers with old 720k drive and 486 processors.
 Every time when I put a  new OS disk , Emax just hangs.
 Maybe Emax SE upgrade contain Eprom upgrade??? Any help??




--- In emax@y..., "Rob EmuArc" <rob@e...> wrote:
> Hi,
> Yep - if you have an Emax with an internal hard drive, you can hook 
up a
> SCSI external drive with a DB25 external to DB50 internal SCSI 
adapter plus
> a 50pin internal SCSI cable for 2 devices. We will be offering a 
kit soon.
> However you can't select the SCSI ID of the external drive unless 
you have
> the Plus OS. Which means you can't format or access the external 
drive. The
> HD OS versions only cope with one SCSI drive.
> 
> Upgrade details and some cool manuals are on our web site at this 
address:
> 
> 
http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Samplers/EmaxOverview/EmaxSCSI/emaxscsi
.html

> 
> We also have the Plus OS for download.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rob
> The Emulator Archive
> www.emulatorarchive.com
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 27 Sep 2001 at 0:13, rebirth606@... wrote:

> Hello
> 
>  I try to upgrade my Emax HD to SE or Plus but without any luck.
>  EMX works fine for making sample disks,but OS transfer dosn't work.
>  I'll try different computers with old 720k drive and 486 processors.
>  Every time when I put a  new OS disk , Emax just hangs.
>  Maybe Emax SE upgrade contain Eprom upgrade??? Any help??


Nope, it's not Eprom. It's a very common problem with EMX. Your only real chance at 
getting EMX to write the OS to disk is to use a system running DOS 6 or earlier with a 
720k drive.


John Silveria II
AIM: EmaxJS
The Silveria Family Website
Emax and Emax II User's Group
http://www.silveriafamily.com

Hi,
John is right EMX is a tricky program to get going, however even if you get
an OS diskette created properly there are a couple of things to bear in
mind.

The SE versions of the Emax OS require an EEPROM update, which was provided
on the diskette from E-mu. The EMX download version does not have this, so
the SE software will only work on an SE Emax. The update was because E-mu
Systems wanted to charge for the upgrade and copy protect it. They have
since "lost" the upgrade masters... The only way you can upgrade to SE is to
copy the EEPROM of a SE Emax.

The Plus and HD versions of the OS rely on additional PAL logic to drive the
SCSI addressing, therefore these OS versions are unlikely to work in an old
Emax. Whether these means a failure to boot or just the SCSI options don't
work we don't know. All 3 of our Emaxs are SE.

To check whether the EMX process is working, make an Emax OS 3.2 diskette
and see if your Emax boots up with it. If it does you know the EMX process
works. If it doesn't you know that the EMX process doesn't work yet, so make
sure you run EMX under a DOS boot, that you use brand new 720k DS/DD
diskettes that have previously been formatted on the Emax. We have EMX
working with 1.44MB floppy  drives.

Hope this helps !!

Rob

  -----Original Message-----
  From: John Silveria [mailto:emaxjs@...]
  Sent: 27 September 2001 06:33
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Can not upgrade ( EMX problem??)Emax SCSI


  On 27 Sep 2001 at 0:13, rebirth606@... wrote:

  > Hello
  >
  >  I try to upgrade my Emax HD to SE or Plus but without any luck.
  >  EMX works fine for making sample disks,but OS transfer dosn't work.
  >  I'll try different computers with old 720k drive and 486 processors.
  >  Every time when I put a  new OS disk , Emax just hangs.
  >  Maybe Emax SE upgrade contain Eprom upgrade??? Any help??


  Nope, it's not Eprom. It's a very common problem with EMX. Your only real
chance at
  getting EMX to write the OS to disk is to use a system running DOS 6 or
earlier with a
  720k drive.


  John Silveria II
  AIM: EmaxJS
  The Silveria Family Website
  Emax and Emax II User's Group
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Hello



 I'd like to now how much sound difference beetwin EMAX and 
 Emulator II.I've heard very nice tracks with Emulator II and
 just wondering if EMAX can be sound close to it.Basically
 sound routines and design in EMAX are similar to Emulator II(except
large scale IC's insted standart chips) but
 anyway it should be differences.If anybody compared side by side
 EMAX and Emulator II?

 Thanks.

Hi,
The Emax was designed as a low cost emulatuion of the Emulator II, and it
has a very similar spec (8 voices, same basic sample rate, same memory size,
analog filters). However the Emax is NOT an exact duplication and there are
differences in the sample replay engine (custom E chip rather than TTL). The
Emulator II does seem to sound more classy and it has a certain prescence.
The sample libraries have some differences too, the GOLD series Emax sample
diskettes are worth hunting out. There are some very good EII and Emax
sounds on CDROM.

The Emax is easier to find with a hard disk, and can even cope with a ZIP
drive if you get the right model. It is a bit more flexible too in terms of
digital sound processing. Both models can use a computer sample editor sucgh
as Sound Designer I and II pre 2.8.

We will be loading up some recordings of every Emulator/Emax soon, so you
can listen to the differences.

We suggest buying both !!!

Regards

Rob
The Emulator Archive
www.emulatorarchive.com

  -----Original Message-----
  From: rebirth606@... [mailto:rebirth606@...]
  Sent: 30 September 2001 13:25
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [emax] Please advise : EMAX vs Emulator II


  Hello



  I'd like to now how much sound difference beetwin EMAX and
  Emulator II.I've heard very nice tracks with Emulator II and
  just wondering if EMAX can be sound close to it.Basically
  sound routines and design in EMAX are similar to Emulator II(except
  large scale IC's insted standart chips) but
  anyway it should be differences.If anybody compared side by side
  EMAX and Emulator II?

  Thanks.


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Are the sample CD-Roms you were selling actual E-mu CD-Roms or are you duplicating 
them yourself? I have the Emax II Elements of Sound Volume 1 CD-Rom which is 
basically the Emax library ported over to Emax II. It's 99 1Mb banks. I know there is a 
way to make images of these CD-Roms. Just wondering. Perhaps you'd like to trade, I'd 
like to get some 4Mb banks.


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Hi John,
Everything we sell in the online store is the original product straight from
the manufacturer - in the Emax II case from QUpArts.

We are also collecting sample CDROM's for all E-mu samplers and we do trade
privately with CD-R copies on a 1:1 basis. We obviously don't sell CD-R
copies as its not fair to the sample creators. Sample CDROM's are dead easy
to copy with a CD writer.

We are looking for:

Elements of Sound Volume 3 and 4 (we do have these but they are stuck at
E-mu HO....)

We have
E-mu Elements of Sound Volume 1 and 2
Northstar Max 1, 2, 3
OMI Universe of Sounds - All Volumes
Greytsounds Best of
Plus a range of E-mu samples from the USA lead demonstrator employee on
ZIP/SyQuest

Sample CDROM's have sold alot less than we had hoped, people buy an Emax II
for ?200 - 300 and don't fancy shelling out for a CDROM at ?50 - 75, even
though there are some awesome sounds on the sample disks. We will get more
of these sample libraries up as demos, and maybe as downloads once the
copyright is history.

We would love to get hold of the 4 and 8 MB banks!! Let me know if any of
our sample CDROM's are of interest.

Regards

Rob

  -----Original Message-----
  From: John Silveria [mailto:emaxjs@...]
  Sent: 10 October 2001 20:46
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [emax] Please advise : EMAX vs Emulator II


  Are the sample CD-Roms you were selling actual E-mu CD-Roms or are you
duplicating
  them yourself? I have the Emax II Elements of Sound Volume 1 CD-Rom which
is
  basically the Emax library ported over to Emax II. It's 99 1Mb banks. I
know there is a
  way to make images of these CD-Roms. Just wondering. Perhaps you'd like to
trade, I'd
  like to get some 4Mb banks.


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I guess I'm like most people. I don't even have a CD-Rom drive for my Emax II. I have so 
many banks on Syquest cartridges that I can't imagine shelling out more money for a 
CD-Rom drive and CD-Roms.

On 10 Oct 2001 at 21:55, Rob EmuArc wrote:

> Hi John,
> Everything we sell in the online store is the original product straight from
> the manufacturer - in the Emax II case from QUpArts.
> 
> We are also collecting sample CDROM's for all E-mu samplers and we do trade
> privately with CD-R copies on a 1:1 basis. We obviously don't sell CD-R
> copies as its not fair to the sample creators. Sample CDROM's are dead easy
> to copy with a CD writer.
> 
> We are looking for:
> 
> Elements of Sound Volume 3 and 4 (we do have these but they are stuck at
> E-mu HO....)
> 
> We have
> E-mu Elements of Sound Volume 1 and 2
> Northstar Max 1, 2, 3
> OMI Universe of Sounds - All Volumes
> Greytsounds Best of
> Plus a range of E-mu samples from the USA lead demonstrator employee on
> ZIP/SyQuest
> 
> Sample CDROM's have sold alot less than we had hoped, people buy an Emax II
> for ?200 - 300 and don't fancy shelling out for a CDROM at ?50 - 75, even
> though there are some awesome sounds on the sample disks. We will get more
> of these sample libraries up as demos, and maybe as downloads once the
> copyright is history.
> 
> We would love to get hold of the 4 and 8 MB banks!! Let me know if any of
> our sample CDROM's are of interest.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: John Silveria [mailto:emaxjs@...]
>   Sent: 10 October 2001 20:46
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: RE: [emax] Please advise : EMAX vs Emulator II
> 
> 
>   Are the sample CD-Roms you were selling actual E-mu CD-Roms or are you
> duplicating
>   them yourself? I have the Emax II Elements of Sound Volume 1 CD-Rom which
> is
>   basically the Emax library ported over to Emax II. It's 99 1Mb banks. I
> know there is a
>   way to make images of these CD-Roms. Just wondering. Perhaps you'd like to
> trade, I'd
>   like to get some 4Mb banks.
> 
> 
>   **********************************************************
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It took me over a year to find an old used CD Drive
that was compatible with my Emax II. Has anyone found
newer drives that will work with the Emax's?

Bob

--- John Silveria <emaxjs@...> wrote:
> I guess I'm like most people. I don't even have a
> CD-Rom drive for my Emax II. I have so 
> many banks on Syquest cartridges that I can't
> imagine shelling out more money for a 
> CD-Rom drive and CD-Roms.
> 
> On 10 Oct 2001 at 21:55, Rob EmuArc wrote:
> 
> > Hi John,
> > Everything we sell in the online store is the
> original product straight from
> > the manufacturer - in the Emax II case from
> QUpArts.
> > 
> > We are also collecting sample CDROM's for all E-mu
> samplers and we do trade
> > privately with CD-R copies on a 1:1 basis. We
> obviously don't sell CD-R
> > copies as its not fair to the sample creators.
> Sample CDROM's are dead easy
> > to copy with a CD writer.
> > 
> > We are looking for:
> > 
> > Elements of Sound Volume 3 and 4 (we do have these
> but they are stuck at
> > E-mu HO....)
> > 
> > We have
> > E-mu Elements of Sound Volume 1 and 2
> > Northstar Max 1, 2, 3
> > OMI Universe of Sounds - All Volumes
> > Greytsounds Best of
> > Plus a range of E-mu samples from the USA lead
> demonstrator employee on
> > ZIP/SyQuest
> > 
> > Sample CDROM's have sold alot less than we had
> hoped, people buy an Emax II
> > for ?200 - 300 and don't fancy shelling out for a
> CDROM at ?50 - 75, even
> > though there are some awesome sounds on the sample
> disks. We will get more
> > of these sample libraries up as demos, and maybe
> as downloads once the
> > copyright is history.
> > 
> > We would love to get hold of the 4 and 8 MB
> banks!! Let me know if any of
> > our sample CDROM's are of interest.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Rob
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: John Silveria [mailto:emaxjs@...]
> >   Sent: 10 October 2001 20:46
> >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> >   Subject: RE: [emax] Please advise : EMAX vs
> Emulator II
> > 
> > 
> >   Are the sample CD-Roms you were selling actual
> E-mu CD-Roms or are you
> > duplicating
> >   them yourself? I have the Emax II Elements of
> Sound Volume 1 CD-Rom which
> > is
> >   basically the Emax library ported over to Emax
> II. It's 99 1Mb banks. I
> > know there is a
> >   way to make images of these CD-Roms. Just
> wondering. Perhaps you'd like to
> > trade, I'd
> >   like to get some 4Mb banks.
> > 
> > 
> >  
>
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> 60199476
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Oh, BTW...what's the URL for these folks selling these
CD's?

Bob

--- Bob Conner <rennocbob@...> wrote:
> It took me over a year to find an old used CD Drive
> that was compatible with my Emax II. Has anyone
> found
> newer drives that will work with the Emax's?
> 
> Bob
> 
> --- John Silveria <emaxjs@...> wrote:
> > I guess I'm like most people. I don't even have a
> > CD-Rom drive for my Emax II. I have so 
> > many banks on Syquest cartridges that I can't
> > imagine shelling out more money for a 
> > CD-Rom drive and CD-Roms.
> > 
> > On 10 Oct 2001 at 21:55, Rob EmuArc wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi John,
> > > Everything we sell in the online store is the
> > original product straight from
> > > the manufacturer - in the Emax II case from
> > QUpArts.
> > > 
> > > We are also collecting sample CDROM's for all
> E-mu
> > samplers and we do trade
> > > privately with CD-R copies on a 1:1 basis. We
> > obviously don't sell CD-R
> > > copies as its not fair to the sample creators.
> > Sample CDROM's are dead easy
> > > to copy with a CD writer.
> > > 
> > > We are looking for:
> > > 
> > > Elements of Sound Volume 3 and 4 (we do have
> these
> > but they are stuck at
> > > E-mu HO....)
> > > 
> > > We have
> > > E-mu Elements of Sound Volume 1 and 2
> > > Northstar Max 1, 2, 3
> > > OMI Universe of Sounds - All Volumes
> > > Greytsounds Best of
> > > Plus a range of E-mu samples from the USA lead
> > demonstrator employee on
> > > ZIP/SyQuest
> > > 
> > > Sample CDROM's have sold alot less than we had
> > hoped, people buy an Emax II
> > > for ?200 - 300 and don't fancy shelling out for
> a
> > CDROM at ?50 - 75, even
> > > though there are some awesome sounds on the
> sample
> > disks. We will get more
> > > of these sample libraries up as demos, and maybe
> > as downloads once the
> > > copyright is history.
> > > 
> > > We would love to get hold of the 4 and 8 MB
> > banks!! Let me know if any of
> > > our sample CDROM's are of interest.
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Rob
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: John Silveria [mailto:emaxjs@...]
> > >   Sent: 10 October 2001 20:46
> > >   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> > >   Subject: RE: [emax] Please advise : EMAX vs
> > Emulator II
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Are the sample CD-Roms you were selling actual
> > E-mu CD-Roms or are you
> > > duplicating
> > >   them yourself? I have the Emax II Elements of
> > Sound Volume 1 CD-Rom which
> > > is
> > >   basically the Emax library ported over to Emax
> > II. It's 99 1Mb banks. I
> > > know there is a
> > >   way to make images of these CD-Roms. Just
> > wondering. Perhaps you'd like to
> > > trade, I'd
> > >   like to get some 4Mb banks.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> >
>
**********************************************************
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> ICQ:
> > 60199476
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Bad moderator, I didn't even realize this thread was going to the whole list. I thought I 
had written Rob directly, My apologies. http://www.emuarc.com is Rob's excellent 
Emulator website where they use to offer Emax II CD-Roms. It would appear they are all 
out of stock now though.

I'm tinkering around with website development again now that I'm trying to learn 
Dreamweaver Ultradev 4. I was wondering if any of you have suggestions of what you 
think our Emax and Emax II User's Group website should have on it. When I get good 
enough I plan a whole new Flash enhanced look.

John Silveria II
AIM: EmaxJS
The Silveria Family Website
Emax and Emax II User's Group
http://www.silveriafamily.com

No! Don't do it!!  Please don't subject us to Flash and Dreamweaver's broken
html!!
I don't know what the alternative OS following is on this list, but I use
BSD and Linux as well as Windows, and Konqueror and Mozilla don't render
Dreamweaver stuff very well.
And before the Microsofties say anything, yes it is Dreamweaver's fault.

Cheers,
  Gordon
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Silveria" <emaxjs@...>
To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 6:43 PM
Subject: [emax] Site update ideas


> I'm tinkering around with website development again now that I'm trying to
learn
> Dreamweaver Ultradev 4. I was wondering if any of you have suggestions of
what you
> think our Emax and Emax II User's Group website should have on it. When I
get good

> enough I plan a whole new Flash enhanced look.
>
> John Silveria II
> AIM: EmaxJS
> The Silveria Family Website
> Emax and Emax II User's Group
> http://www.silveriafamily.com
>
>
> Emax and Emax II User's Group
>
> http://www.silveriafamily.com
>
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>
>

Too late :( I've already updated my home page. However I haven't changed any of the 
Emax pages yet and I'm not sure I want to go through the effort anyway. I primarily 
changed the buttons. I like buttons that react not just static images. I'm certainly not 
going to get into a discussion of where the fault lies after all I'd imagine most people on 
this list are using Macs anyway :)

On 22 Oct 2001 at 13:59, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

> No! Don't do it!!  Please don't subject us to Flash and Dreamweaver's broken
> html!!
> I don't know what the alternative OS following is on this list, but I use
> BSD and Linux as well as Windows, and Konqueror and Mozilla don't render
> Dreamweaver stuff very well.
> And before the Microsofties say anything, yes it is Dreamweaver's fault.
> 
> Cheers,
>   Gordon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Silveria" <emaxjs@...>
> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 6:43 PM
> Subject: [emax] Site update ideas
> 
> 
> > I'm tinkering around with website development again now that I'm trying to
> learn
> > Dreamweaver Ultradev 4. I was wondering if any of you have suggestions of
> what you
> > think our Emax and Emax II User's Group website should have on it. When I
> get good
> > enough I plan a whole new Flash enhanced look.
> >
> > John Silveria II
> > AIM: EmaxJS
> > The Silveria Family Website
> > Emax and Emax II User's Group
> > http://www.silveriafamily.com
> >
> >
> > Emax and Emax II User's Group
> >
> > http://www.silveriafamily.com
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Emax and Emax II User's Group
> 
> http://www.silveriafamily.com 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 


John Silveria II
AIM: EmaxJS
The Silveria Family Website
Emax and Emax II User's Group
http://www.silveriafamily.com