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Audition .EM1 files?

2014-10-06 by niklas.ehrlin@...

Is there any way (any program) that can load and audition the .EM1 soundbanks before writing them to floppy?

Because Awave Studio is able to load .OUT files (diskimages for Roland S-series samplers) and audition them, which is very convenient.


Niklas

Re: [emax] Audition .EM1 files?

2014-10-06 by Garth Hjelte

At 04:59 AM 10/6/2014, you wrote:

>Is there any way (any program) that can load and audition the .EM1 soundbanks before writing them to floppy?

Translator Free or Translator (or most Chicken Systems programs) - www.chickensys.com 

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

RE: [emax] Audition .EM1 files?

2014-10-07 by Lorne Hammond

big thumbs up for chickensys by the way

 

lorne
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At 04:59 AM 10/6/2014, you wrote:

>Is there any way (any program) that can load and audition the .EM1
soundbanks before writing them to floppy?

Translator Free or Translator (or most Chicken Systems programs) -
www.chickensys.com 

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

Re: [emax] Audition .EM1 files?

2014-10-07 by Nick Shopa

I checked the chickensys website and it looks like they only offer support for the Emax II. Has anybody tried it with Emax I and can confirm its compatibility? 
Thanks 


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> >Is there any way (any program) that can load and audition the .EM1 soundbanks before writing them to floppy?
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> Translator Free or Translator (or most Chicken Systems programs) - www.chickensys.com 
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Re: [emax] Audition .EM1 files?

2014-10-07 by Niklas Ehrlin

Hi again.

I tried the free version of Translator and it didnt work that good...
I could "see" all the files and its content, but about half of the .EM1-disks could not play the samples at all, got an error message.
The second half, I could play, but with a wrong decoding, and the sample was just digital noice, could be an unsupported soundcard driver as Im trying this on my laptop with internal soundcard.
SO - In my short experience, I could not get it to work. Any other suggestions?

Niklas
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2014-10-07 3:01 GMT+02:00 Nick Shopa nickshopa@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

I checked the chickensys website and it looks like they only offer support for the Emax II. Has anybody tried it with Emax I and can confirm its compatibility?
Thanks


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On Oct 6, 2014, at 8:45 PM, 'Lorne Hammond' lhammond@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

big thumbs up for chickensys by the way

lorne

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Subject: Re: [emax] Audition .EM1 files?

At 04:59 AM 10/6/2014, you wrote:

>Is there any way (any program) that can load and audition the .EM1 soundbanks before writing them to floppy?

Translator Free or Translator (or most Chicken Systems programs) - www.chickensys.com

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User


Re: [emax] Audition .EM1 files?

2014-10-07 by Garth Hjelte

At 01:53 AM 10/7/2014, you wrote:

>I tried the free version of Translator and it didnt work that good...
>I could "see" all the files and its content, but about half of the .EM1-disks could not play the samples at all, got an error message.
>The second half, I could play, but with a wrong decoding, and the sample was just digital noice, could be an unsupported soundcard driver as Im trying this on my laptop with internal soundcard.

Send me, or tell me which .em1 files are in question, and I'll check and get it worked out. support AT chickensys.com, or put in a Bug Report at www.chickensys.com/translator/bugreports and attach the file(s) in question by zipping them up.

Translator is fully supported so it's certainly possible (and will happen) to address any issues. As for Emax 1 support, I was thinking it was all worked out but maybe there's some issues, I could be getting it mixed up with Emulator II support, which is slightly related. We did a lot of work on this recently, I get confused. 

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User

Re: [emax] Audition .EM1 files?

2014-10-07 by esynthesist@...

>>> Any other suggestions?

If you're using Windows, you could consider using EMXP (freeware, see http://www.emxp.net)
Auditioning is not really supported by EMXP, but you can simply select all EM1 files you would like to audition, and request EMXP to extract all samples of these files to WAV files. This conversion works very fast, so after a few seconds you can find all samples as WAV files in the folder you have specified.
Then you can simply double-click on them in Windows Explorer and your audio player will start playing the samples.
The names of these WAV files start with the original EM1 file name, so you can easily see to which EM1 files the WAV files belong.

This solution is not exactly the same as the "instant" auditioning provided by ChickenSys Translator, which works fine for Emax-II but indeed not (yet) for Emax-I.
But the WAV-conversion approach with EMXP works very fast as well, so it may be an alternative that you could consider. Just an idea...
(It works fine for me but since I'm the developer of EMXP I may not be the most reliable reference :-)

///E-Synthesist

Re: [emax] Audition .EM1 files?

2014-10-07 by Niklas Ehrlin

Aha, thats a nice feature, didnt know that. I am already using EMXP and love it! And regarding the instant or noninstant audition; if time where of the essence, I would have quitted vintage samplers long ago. ;)
Niklas

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Den 7 okt 2014 22:04 skrev "esynthesist@... [emax]" <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

>>> Any other suggestions?

If you're using Windows, you could consider using EMXP (freeware, see http://www.emxp.net)
Auditioning is not really supported by EMXP, but you can simply select all EM1 files you would like to audition, and request EMXP to extract all samples of these files to WAV files. This conversion works very fast, so after a few seconds you can find all samples as WAV files in the folder you have specified.
Then you can simply double-click on them in Windows Explorer and your audio player will start playing the samples.
The names of these WAV files start with the original EM1 file name, so you can easily see to which EM1 files the WAV files belong.

This solution is not exactly the same as the "instant" auditioning provided by ChickenSys Translator, which works fine for Emax-II but indeed not (yet) for Emax-I.
But the WAV-conversion approach with EMXP works very fast as well, so it may be an alternative that you could consider. Just an idea...
(It works fine for me but since I'm the developer of EMXP I may not be the most reliable reference :-)

///E-Synthesist

Re: [emax] Audition .EM1 files?

2014-10-08 by Garth Hjelte

At 03:04 PM 10/7/2014, you wrote:

>This solution is not exactly the same as the "instant" auditioning provided by ChickenSys Translator, which works fine for Emax-II but indeed not (yet) for Emax-I. 

No, it works for Emax 1, one file Niklas provided was corrupted (ZD723, I think it's corrupted for everyone), and the other one worked fine for me (the ZD700 piano), I'm not sure why it didn't fly right on his side. I asked him some questions but haven't got a reply yet.

I've tested all the ZD floppy images available publicly and Translator auditions the samples fine on all of them. Plus the CD images (but that's Emax II).

Incidentally, what doesn't work - actually not implemented - is auditioning of an ENTIRE Emax I (or II) preset, where you can see the mapping and play it onscreen or on a MIDI keyboard. This works for many other formats but we skipped it (undoubtedly for time reasons) for Emax. We're getting this in by next build, it's not difficult.

>But the WAV-conversion approach with EMXP works very fast as well, so it may be an alternative that you could consider. Just an idea...
>(It works fine for me but since I'm the developer of EMXP I may not be the most reliable reference :-) 

Well, no, it doesn't necessarily follow that a developer isn't going to be a reliable communicator. In fact, he usually knows much more than the user. Being dev myself, its kind of irritating when I get consistently doubted (especially online) only because we are THE or A developer. I get it, we could have a vested interest to misrepresent the truth, but really no developer I've known has that type of character. It's not like we are the second Kennedy shooter or anything.  

Garth Hjelte
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Re: [emax] Audition .EM1 files?

2014-10-09 by Niklas Ehrlin

I thought I answered all questions - but anyway - I think it was my system (laptop running win 7, with an internal stock soundinterface). I will try Translator in my studio setup where that sound interface and driver should be more suitable.
I tried wav-convertion on EMXP and it worked perfectly!
Thanks for your help!
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2014-10-08 19:39 GMT+02:00 Garth Hjelte garth@... [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

At 03:04 PM 10/7/2014, you wrote:

>This solution is not exactly the same as the "instant" auditioning provided by ChickenSys Translator, which works fine for Emax-II but indeed not (yet) for Emax-I.

No, it works for Emax 1, one file Niklas provided was corrupted (ZD723, I think it's corrupted for everyone), and the other one worked fine for me (the ZD700 piano), I'm not sure why it didn't fly right on his side. I asked him some questions but haven't got a reply yet.

I've tested all the ZD floppy images available publicly and Translator auditions the samples fine on all of them. Plus the CD images (but that's Emax II).

Incidentally, what doesn't work - actually not implemented - is auditioning of an ENTIRE Emax I (or II) preset, where you can see the mapping and play it onscreen or on a MIDI keyboard. This works for many other formats but we skipped it (undoubtedly for time reasons) for Emax. We're getting this in by next build, it's not difficult.

>But the WAV-conversion approach with EMXP works very fast as well, so it may be an alternative that you could consider. Just an idea...
>(It works fine for me but since I'm the developer of EMXP I may not be the most reliable reference :-)

Well, no, it doesn't necessarily follow that a developer isn't going to be a reliable communicator. In fact, he usually knows much more than the user. Being dev myself, its kind of irritating when I get consistently doubted (especially online) only because we are THE or A developer. I get it, we could have a vested interest to misrepresent the truth, but really no developer I've known has that type of character. It's not like we are the second Kennedy shooter or anything.

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User


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