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Re: [emax] Re: Only 1MG of RAM...!

2009-07-22 by jammie

he was using EII then he went on to use a fz1 which he ported all his samples to then he went onto a s1000

he was using mostly analogs

the filters are analog in the EIII where as the filters are digital in the e4 but the tone creativity of the e4 is way superior to the e3 the filters are warm 

but the vocal and other incredible filters in the e4 are amazing i own a morpheus which has 197 of these filters and the samples from the e3 

emulatorx2 you can create your own designating where the peaks are and how the resonance performs and you have the transfom multiplication algorythm

i love the sound of 8bit and 12bit samplers they have a grity sound due to poor adc,s but this added to the warmth of the machine in the emax1 they dont use any antiliasing filters but rely on the analog filters to do this in most samplers there is a lowpass antiliasing filter comprising of a 2pole opamp design before going into the analog filters but the emax does not have this furcillity so you get digital noise into the analog filters this adds to the sound also its the same for the korg dss1

but in digital systems its all done digital the sent to the dac where there is the antiliasing filter buffing opamp circuit before the line level circuits

the problem with digital it try,s to be correct as possible and there is no variation in its tone where as analog drifts slightly and each oscilator will be a little out of phase which adds to the beatting sound of the of the synths

you can emulate this by haveing 2 samples the same and starting the sample on a 180 o phase to the other and looping it on the 180 o sample and slightly detuneing it

this will give variation to the sound and you will get that pumping sound you can do this with single cycle samples try setng it to diferent phases and seeing what results you get 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ss 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [emax] Re: Only 1MG of RAM...!


    Jammie,

  The sound was certainly better, richer at one time. I'm very 
  concerned to get a higher quality of sound back again.

  I listened last night to Eurythmic's "1984" soundtrack, and the 
  sampling was so rich and so pure and so powerful!
  I *wish* I knew what Dave Stewart was using as his techniques on that 
  album at that time and what gear because
  at the time it sounded "cold" but now it sounds very warm and rich 
  compared to work being done today.

  (Having Annie Lennox as your vocalist doesn't hurt going into your 
  sampler, either! Let's not forget that!) ;-)

  People are realizing that things have not improved just because 
  technology contains more, or has faster speeds as you
  well know and have taken pains to explain in some part why.

  The new Alesis analog-digital hybrid synths just sound like buzzing -- 
  it's horrible! It's supposed to sound good or better!

  Thank you for all of these great points!

  And there is a difference in tone between the EIII and the EIV, too 
  I've heard? That's very disturbing...

  On 21 Jul 2009, at 22:20, jammie wrote:

  > wrong it records its samples in 12bit and still puts it in 12bit 
  > data in 8bits memory be it compressed but you dont get 1mb 
  > equivalant 16bit samples
  >
  > the memory works in the same way as scsi1 its 8 bits but the the 
  > next 4bit data is put in the next available 8bit location using 
  > compression but its still 12bits when its read back out of memory it 
  > reads the first 8bit location then the second 8bit location but only 
  > reading the first 4 bits data
  >
  > the compression program and the gal processor splits the memory up 
  > into 1 and a half 8bit codes locations in a memory table
  >
  > thats how it does it the scsi works the same way the 12bit samples 
  > are recorded and sent to the scsi drive but are actualy saved in 
  > 16bits that is the same for all 12bit samplers the last 4bits are 
  > just zero,s filling up the 16bit data which is sent to the scsi 1 
  > drive as 2 8bit data streams
  >
  > this is what would happen to the emaxs memory if it was not for the 
  > compression program using a allocating table to distribute the data 
  > in 8bit and 4 bit segments to the 12bit dacs

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