Emax

I think - although this is in a sense hypocritical - the Emax factory library released on floppies is an exception. They AFAIK were never sold, they came with every Emax and thus should have traveled with every Emax as they were being sold. They should apply to the above statement - they still are Emu';s property - but historically everyone knows that they are really part-and-parcel of the sampler. It's similar to posting the PDF's of the manuals online. But it's still illegal to do so, it's just known as an acceptable crime (like speeding on a freeway). Nothings changed.

Yes - it indeed is a little hypocritical :)

Also, the E4XT and Ultra series came with about 5-10 CD-ROM when sold initially, which I guess where ment to follow the sampler as an all-sound-experience-sort-of-thing.

Furthermore, some aspect should be mentioned: translating from an Emax 1 format to .wav (and going from playing them in an Emax to playing them in Kontakt) certainly changes the precieved sound quite a bit. This change in precieved sound is an alteration of the work of the sound-creator, and could very well in some cases not be ok. I mean if we should really be true to the creators work. (at least according to some national copyright laws)

But I undrestand what you are saying and understand your position.

Although:

For personal, private, commercial use. No use. You can't steal a Ferrari even if you just plan to put it in your garage.

I mean, come on. That is a VERY far fetched comparison, and you know it.

Regards

Niklas

2015-08-07 15:40 GMT+02:00 Garth Hjelte garth@chickensys.com [emax] <emax@yahoogroups.com>:

At 02:42 PM 8/6/2015, you wrote:

>Ok, I thought that these where images created from the CD-ROM's (and hence perhaps from a time after Emax and would be in a E4-compatible format).

It may be - I replied to the post without knowing (and I tried to check past emails) what or where the images were on "box.com". Otherwise I would have given a better answer.

I think they are either floppy images, so you'd use OmniFlop or EMX to ge them onto floppy, or someone put all these on SCSI hard drive (like a ZipDisk) and then made an image. Then you'd use Translator or something else to do what you needed to do.

>>In case like that, you simply can't use them, period. They aren't public domain, Emu still posses the rights and that's that. They are theirs, they aren't yours.

>I have never claimed them to be mine! I would never use these in a way that would benefit me economically. My only motivation is to try to do my bit in the preservation of the great legacy of E-MU (a legacy Creative hasn't shown too much interest in), by resurrecting their gear and sounds. And as soon as I have the chance, play them to my friends, kids and everyone else passing by. And if I ever would use these comercially - I will make sure to send Creative a check for them to use in developing their new line of Sound Blasters :)

All I was saying - and remember as I mentioned above I have no idea what's on "box.com" - if they are any of the Emu-created E3 CD-ROM series or the ESi Formula series or any Emu-created E4 CD's they sold, they shouldn't be up on any web site because Emu owns the copyright and they should NEVER be copied without their permission (which they don't give). They aren't free, they aren't for distribution other than what Emu says. For personal, private, commercial use. No use. You can't steal a Ferrari even if you just plan to put it in your garage.

Again, since I don't know what this "box.com" site is all about, if these images are up with the permission of their author, it's A-OK. If they are NOT, then they need to be removed.

I think - although this is in a sense hypocritical - the Emax factory library released on floppies is an exception. They AFAIK were never sold, they came with every Emax and thus should have traveled with every Emax as they were being sold. They should apply to the above statement - they still are Emu's property - but historically everyone knows that they are really part-and-parcel of the sampler. It's similar to posting the PDF's of the manuals online. But it's still illegal to do so, it's just known as an acceptable crime (like speeding on a freeway). Nothings changed.

But larger libraries like the CD-ROM's and sounds en masse are a much different thing. No pirating. Period.

Don't mean to be the "sound police" but we all have to remember this.

Garth Hjelte
Sampler User