Elektron Musical Instruments

Nice to see people reacting. Here are some changes:

Eric wrote:
> Say, a new challenge on the first
> of every month with submissions due by the 3rd Friday,
> then voting during the last week with the tallied
> winner announced on the first of the next month when
> we do the next challenge.

Endlessticman wrote:
> I think you should not be so strict on the date.  Give us some  
>time. Have a due date.  Wait another month for late comers, then set 
>up a poll of all the songs.  Just let us vote for the music.

We need more time, this is agreed! Lets try to make it a new 
challenge on every month (contest ideas are welcome from everyone). 
This contest has allready started (from now on they start at the 
first of the month). This contest ends 24.9.2004. 

I'll try to gather all mp3-links for the voting. So I'm not gathering 
the mp3's itself just a links (it's your job to put them on the web). 
Make sure you don't delete them before contst ends; I'll put the 
links once again, when we are voting.


> can we use the individual outs for mixdown or can >we only pull 
>from the stereo outs?

You can of course use the individual outs. Just sum the channels to 
stereo file in Cubase or what ever you are using. This is of course a 
MD only contest, so no multibands/limiters or anything else to 
sweeten the loop.


Joe wrote:
> hmmm.... not sure I like this restriction.  it's more interesting 
>to do quick changes in song mode.  at least for the recording, it 
>would be nice to utilize.

I thought this too yesterday, when I made the last post. This is now 
changed: You can use the song mode, mutes, offsets repeats and 
everything, just make sure it's done with only one pattern.

This changes things a little, since someone can do a one pattern (1 
sec) and someone will do a whole song (3 min). They are not very 
compearable, so please everyone lets try to make these loops (or 
whatever) max around 30 sec, Ok? Is this wide enough restriction (I 
don't mid if it's 40 sec loop, just that they aren't many minutes).


So I guess these are the MD Contest changes. Lets repeat them once 
again, for persons who didn't read the above accurate enough:

1. Contest ends 24.9.2004 (don't get lazy, start one today).
2. Post links to your loops, I'll gather the links (not Mp3s).
3. You can use song-mode also, just try to stay max 30 sec.
4. Individual outputs are ok.
5. We can try to make these contests a monthly thing. Everyone can 
suggest ideas (try to keep them general, so they don't favor house-
boys or DnB-junkies. So that everyone can do something).


Thats it, now go do your MD tweaks! 
Toni.

ps. Thanks for the loop Flo, I've noted the link.

pps. If we get a lot of responses, maybe we could delight Elektron 
people at Sweden and send them there ("Let's us whow what Elektron MD 
is cabaple of!").

On Aug 28, 2004, at 8:22 AM, tahvenaine2002 wrote:

>  So I guess these are the MD Contest changes. Lets repeat them once
>  again, for persons who didn't read the above accurate enough:
>
>  1. Contest ends 24.9.2004 (don't get lazy, start one today).
>  2. Post links to your loops, I'll gather the links (not Mp3s).
>  3. You can use song-mode also, just try to stay max 30 sec.
>  4. Individual outputs are ok.
>  5. We can try to make these contests a monthly thing. Everyone can
>  suggest ideas (try to keep them general, so they don't favor house-
>  boys or DnB-junkies. So that everyone can do something).

These rules sound great to me.  The only additional thoughts I have are
that in the future, we might want to make the time 30 seconds minimum
and 1 minute maximum.   But we should see how everyone does the
first time around before changing it.  Also, if we're going to do this 
every
month then perhaps we should designate a specific machine every month
rather than always letting people choose what they want.  Again, we can 
do
the above this month and then maybe designate a machine next month if
that's what everyone wants.

Regarding posting songs: I can remove the audio files in the the group's
website and create a special place there for this contest.  Then I'll 
remove
them (and create an archive, including contest results) the week before 
the
next month's submissions are due.  It will probably be easier than 
keeping
a list of links and such; everyone can just post their audio/sysex 
files in one
directory so we don't have to surf all over to find them.  And if 
they're only
30+ seconds, there *should* be enough room for them there.

And I hope nobody minds me removing the audio in there; I'm sure that 
all
threads regarding any audio have run their course (the newest file is 
six
months old), so it should be ok with everyone, I'd imagine.  If not, 
let me know.

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Everythings ok by me.
Toni.

--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Melnyk <jmelnyk@c...> 
wrote:
> On Aug 28, 2004, at 8:22 AM, tahvenaine2002 wrote:
> 
> >  So I guess these are the MD Contest changes. Lets repeat them 
once
> >  again, for persons who didn't read the above accurate enough:
> >
> >  1. Contest ends 24.9.2004 (don't get lazy, start one today).
> >  2. Post links to your loops, I'll gather the links (not Mp3s).
> >  3. You can use song-mode also, just try to stay max 30 sec.
> >  4. Individual outputs are ok.
> >  5. We can try to make these contests a monthly thing. Everyone 
can
> >  suggest ideas (try to keep them general, so they don't favor 
house-
> >  boys or DnB-junkies. So that everyone can do something).
> 
> These rules sound great to me.  The only additional thoughts I have 
are
> that in the future, we might want to make the time 30 seconds 
minimum
> and 1 minute maximum.   But we should see how everyone does the
> first time around before changing it.  Also, if we're going to do 
this 
> every
> month then perhaps we should designate a specific machine every 
month
> rather than always letting people choose what they want.  Again, we 
can 
> do
> the above this month and then maybe designate a machine next month 
if
> that's what everyone wants.
> 
> Regarding posting songs: I can remove the audio files in the the 
group's
> website and create a special place there for this contest.  Then 
I'll 
> remove
> them (and create an archive, including contest results) the week 
before 
> the
> next month's submissions are due.  It will probably be easier than 
> keeping
> a list of links and such; everyone can just post their audio/sysex 
> files in one
> directory so we don't have to surf all over to find them.  And if 
> they're only
> 30+ seconds, there *should* be enough room for them there.
> 
> And I hope nobody minds me removing the audio in there; I'm sure 
that 
> all
> threads regarding any audio have run their course (the newest file 
is 
> six
> months old), so it should be ok with everyone, I'd imagine.  If 
not, 

> let me know.
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi!

Great idea! I think this is a good way for everyone to learn new 
tricks on their MD.

I'm in!

Nils


--- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, "tahvenaine2002" 
<toni.ahvenainen@p...> wrote:
> Everythings ok by me.
> Toni.
> 
> --- In elektron-users@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Melnyk <jmelnyk@c...> 
> wrote:
> > On Aug 28, 2004, at 8:22 AM, tahvenaine2002 wrote:
> > 
> > >  So I guess these are the MD Contest changes. Lets repeat them 
> once
> > >  again, for persons who didn't read the above accurate enough:
> > >
> > >  1. Contest ends 24.9.2004 (don't get lazy, start one today).
> > >  2. Post links to your loops, I'll gather the links (not Mp3s).
> > >  3. You can use song-mode also, just try to stay max 30 sec.
> > >  4. Individual outputs are ok.
> > >  5. We can try to make these contests a monthly thing. Everyone 
> can
> > >  suggest ideas (try to keep them general, so they don't favor 
> house-
> > >  boys or DnB-junkies. So that everyone can do something).
> > 
> > These rules sound great to me.  The only additional thoughts I 
have 
> are
> > that in the future, we might want to make the time 30 seconds 
> minimum
> > and 1 minute maximum.   But we should see how everyone does the
> > first time around before changing it.  Also, if we're going to do 
> this 
> > every
> > month then perhaps we should designate a specific machine every 
> month
> > rather than always letting people choose what they want.  Again, 
we 
> can 
> > do
> > the above this month and then maybe designate a machine next 
month 
> if
> > that's what everyone wants.
> > 
> > Regarding posting songs: I can remove the audio files in the the 
> group's
> > website and create a special place there for this contest.  Then 
> I'll 
> > remove
> > them (and create an archive, including contest results) the week 
> before 
> > the
> > next month's submissions are due.  It will probably be easier 
than 
> > keeping
> > a list of links and such; everyone can just post their 
audio/sysex 
> > files in one
> > directory so we don't have to surf all over to find them.  And if 
> > they're only
> > 30+ seconds, there *should* be enough room for them there.
> > 
> > And I hope nobody minds me removing the audio in there; I'm sure 
> that 
> > all
> > threads regarding any audio have run their course (the newest 
file 

> is 
> > six
> > months old), so it should be ok with everyone, I'd imagine.  If 
> not, 
> > let me know.
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'd like to know a good way of uploading what I got.  It was faster
than I thought.  I have an MP3, a .mid sysex file, and a text file I'd
like to upload somewhere.  Shouldn't we create a file in the Files to
hold all the sysex/mid files for the contest?  I don't think there is
room for the audio there.  I think we should have a standard upload
thing going on.  

Also, is it OK to save kit+pattern in the MD?  A13-A13 should save
pattern and kit on A13 right?  I think this is how we're supposed to
do it.  Then people can upload that Kit+pattern anywhere on their MD
to check it out.  

This is the way I see it:

We should have a files section in the Files here at the group for
Contest Kits+Patterns.  Then we should have a soundclick "band" to
upload mp3s.  You don't have to wait for the soundclick to authorize
or anything, it's quick and easy.  Save your mp3s with the same title
as your kits+patterns.  Share the soundclick id and password.  Nobody
please change the password.  Once the contest finishes the admin here
can change the password so nobody should upload mp3s or whatever.

About monthly contest:

Maybe monthly but if you want votes, uploads, vacations....  It should
be bi-monthly.  A month to put it together, a month to vote and discuss.

On Aug 30, 2004, at 6:21 AM, endlessnessisticman wrote:

> I'd like to know a good way of uploading what I got.

there's a new files section in the groups website.  you can
upload everything there. there's a simple README on what
to do; hopefully everyone will read it before they post :-)

>  I don't think there is
>  room for the audio there.

we've got about 20MB of space left.  if files are around 30
seconds each than we theoretically have room for about
40 entries a month.  judging from the response so far,
that should be enough for now. if things change than we'll
cross that bridge when we come to it.


>   Also, is it OK to save kit+pattern in the MD?  A13-A13 should save
>  pattern and kit on A13 right?  I think this is how we're supposed to
>  do it.  Then people can upload that Kit+pattern anywhere on their MD
>  to check it out. 

that should work just fine.

>  We should have a files section in the Files here at the group for
>  Contest Kits+Patterns.  Then we should have a soundclick "band" to
>  upload mp3s.  You don't have to wait for the soundclick to authorize
>  or anything, it's quick and easy.  Save your mp3s with the same title
>  as your kits+patterns.  Share the soundclick id and password.  Nobody
>  please change the password.  Once the contest finishes the admin here
>  can change the password so nobody should upload mp3s or whatever.

hmmm.... it would be better if we could just leave the Soundclick thing
for archiving each months entries, but keep the group's website for
the current entries (so that they're easy to find/get to).  but again, I
don't know if there will be space.  I don't imagine that Soundclick 
would
give us more than a couple month's worth of MD space (i.e. 40MB+).

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