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machinedrum

2000-10-18 by revtor@aol.com

wow that looks cool, I'm sure many of us have started saving up already (I 
have!)
lets think.  more DSP than a VIRUS!!!!  holy shit..  if anyone doesn't know, 
a Virus is a very powerful machine.  Makes our SidStations look like a VW bug 
compared to a Lexus ..  So with that much Digital Signal Processing going on 
just think of the possibilities!!  I love analog, but it's great to see 
digital finally used in a forward manner, not just for analog simulation!
Big display plus Dan's saying that the best features have been kept from 
older drummachines leads me to believe that it will use the xox grid style 
programming...  
with hopefully every parameter of each drum's sound variable per step..
fx levels and settings variable per step...
perhaps a few tracks dedicated just to changing the drum voices ala the 
Quasimidi Polymorph's style sequencer...
which means multiple tracks at once...
so you'd surely be able to have different track lengths..
which would mean ever changing sounds, but measure length and rhythms would 
stay solid..
hopefully all of this would be under MIDI control...  with CV/gate interface 
somewhere, perhaps a clock pulse out for driving our analog sequencers/synths 
(I hope)

wow,
dreaming is great.
anyone else have any cool ideas???  effects send/recieve loops?  PERHAPS the 
ability to do lo-fi sampling for one or two sounds ala Casio RZ-1???  Two 
inputs remember!?!?
~Steve M

Re: [elektron] machinedrum

2000-10-18 by shifty@gweep.net

> dreaming is great.

yes!

> anyone else have any cool ideas???  

yes!  I've often wished for a portable box with knobs, sliders and color lcd
screen for editing a zero-latency modular synth like BUZZ on the fly.  heh
heh heh.  Think VAIO-sized laptop with touchscreen and knobs MIDI
analog/digital i/o built-in.

-N

Re: [elektron] machinedrum

2000-10-18 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck

> if anyone doesn't know,
> a Virus is a very powerful machine.  Makes our SidStations look like a VW bug
> compared to a Lexus ..

So that would make the Machinedrum an Audi?! :-)))

> I love analog, but it's great to see
> digital finally used in a forward manner, not just for analog simulation!

Indeed!!! I have some Jomox stuff as well, but desperately need some digital
drum-machines... so the machinedrum could be the drummachine I've been dreaming
of. :-))

> dreaming is great.

Yes! I'd love to see "new" sounding things!!! I hope they didn't just think of a
good sequencer, but also of a great synth-engine with new possibilities. After
investigating the online picture, I noticed "classic/extended" which leads me to
think we'll get to chose for ourselves how we want to work! This would be great.
Any info on this?

Bye,
Joeri
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machinedrum

2000-10-24 by splank!

Hu!

All I wanted to say is:
- The main thing about any drum-machine is the bassdrum
if the bassdrum is not ok, nobody will buy it.
everything else is a matter of taste.
- But if you want to build a drummachine in the year 2001
it has to be a little bit more of course.
->but don\ufffdt forget about the bassdrum :)

splank!

Re:machinedrum

2001-02-28 by amorrow@optics1.com

OOoooo I like.  I for one will do my best to pick one up when it's 
released.  Here's a question for ya: When's the Ninja version coming out? :)

Alex

At 10:41 PM 2/28/01 +0100, Daniel Hansson wrote:
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>On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 biomecha@... wrote:
>
> > If at all possible, I'd love to see a larger picture of the front
> > panel.
>
>OK, just for you... :) md_demo/md_tilted_1024.jpg
>
>Please, do not spread it...

Re: [elektron] Re:machinedrum

2001-02-28 by Daniel Hansson

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 amorrow@... wrote:

> OOoooo I like.  I for one will do my best to pick one up when it's 
> released.  Here's a question for ya: When's the Ninja version coming out? :)

No Ninja for this one. :) We have no limited edition planned for the
Machinedrum. It will be pretty limited by itself anyway.

Daniel

Re: [elektron] machinedrum

2001-03-01 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck

Hi,

> That will replace the Andromeda picture as my new wallpaper.

And it will replance a nice babe as my wallpaper. :-)

Some list news: We normally have 30 posts a month or so and this month we had
160 posts. :-)))

Bye,
Joeri
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Re: [elektron] machinedrum

2001-03-01 by Dr. Whammo

I am upset by the price because I suspect that it will be such a useful
machine for me that I will have to end up saving for it.  What I would like
to know is if you could make it possible to trigger patterns by a certain
MIDI note event, so you could map the patterns across a keyboard or
something...  What are going to be the ways of interacting with the machine?
Give us some hints!!  Are you going to keep it open ended in some way?


-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Hansson <daniel@...>
To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com <elektron-users@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: [elektron] machinedrum


>
>First, about the sound example I posted - please allow everyone to have
>their own opinion. Everyone must not have the same idea if it's good or
>not. I did not post it to be praised for it being exactly what everyone
>was looking for. I wanted some reactions from the people who were looking
>for a harder bassdrum-sound. Specifying what they were looking for in a
>bassdrum. Just to form a picture.
>
>Second, you have to understand that we do not try to please everyone with
>our products. That's the job of Roland and Yamaha. The result is often
>uninspiring to me. We try to do uncompromised things that are really cool
>in some aspects, but probably won't appeal to everyone. That is what I
>think adds most to the music instrument market, and we think is the most
>rewarding to develop. Look at what we state to do: "Our aim is to pioneer
>the development of electronic music instruments by creating innovative,
>user friendly and magic sound sources." It doesn't say "we want to do the
>phattest emulation of todays big sounds".
>
>Third, if you don't like the sound or the price or the interface or
>neither - don't buy it! This whole MD-thing is a gamble of that our
>view of what is cool agrees with at least some other people so we can
>continue doing our thing.
>
>Fourth, the estimated price is USD 1100 for the American market. What is
>this "I could get a XTR, 909 or 303 for that price"? Sure you can, and if
>you think that is better value - go for it. In the MD we have been serious
>about drum synthesis. The MD is a synthesizer just as much as the
>Microwave or Virus. Drummachines might usually be simple toys, but this
>certainly isn't. We could have decided to set the goal lower (to ER-1
>standards perhaps) and get a lower price. But we aimed higher and you'll
>have to respect that. As a small synthesizer developer (smallest?) we can
>never compete with price - so we go other ways.
>
>As for the bassdrum demo, it was just a quick thing to get some responses.
>Perhaps it was a bad idea as I didn't have the time to follow it up with
>further examples, but I thought it was good to get some feedback. I'm
>satisfied with the replies I've got and it will influence our plans for
>MD-upgrades.
>
>Take care,
>
>Daniel Hansson, Elektron
>
>On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Sean Welch wrote:
>
>> > >weve heard $1100  u.s.
>> > >ouch!
>>
>> 1100??! SHA! sorry elektron...u can fly solo on this one. thats a
rediculous
>> price for a box man. even if its offering all that stuff.....still, i
could
>> buy almost 4 tribes for that. hell..get myself a microwave XTR for that.
I'm
>> sorry, but the machinedrum is side gear...like the sid. its not something
u
>> NEED. shit...for that, u can get a 303 (i know..u need one like a hole in
ur
>> head...personally, i'd curcuit bend one), or 909, or 808.
>>
>> and especially, comming from a 17year old (experienced electronic
musician
>> here), That price is plain unfair! Its hard enough pulling bux together
to
>> get nessisary gear ( i do work, and sale fine art ).
>>
>> if u want some serious market status on the machinedrum, i suggest
greatly
>> lowering that price.....like about half.  find a way to produce it
cheaper,
>> or what ever ( Not FIZMO cheap ....thats just irresponsible). But bring
it
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>> down man...... I've been psyked about this thing for close to 5 or 6
>> months...and this is just down right dissapointing.
>>
>> out
>> -sean
>> >
>> > >weve heard $1100  u.s.
>> > >ouch!
>> > >
>> > >Sean Welch wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > ok....but I do need to know something...what is the expected USD
>> >PRICE?
>> > > > I'm sure everyone else is wondering this to...SO HOOK US UP!
>> > > > -sean
>> > > >
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Re: [elektron] machinedrum

2001-03-01 by Sean Welch

daniel,
pic looks pretty good man. I apologize for my recent blah-ness, i've been 
suffering from a nasty little bit of the flu and have been quite intolerent 
and have had an un-willingness to think things through. U guys do great 
work...I don't want to NOT recognize that. And i apreciate ya'lls 
willingness to help and constantly support (not to mention dealing with our 
shit) us SID users . I'll continue to follow the MD much like I did with the 
SID, and who knows, I might end up digging it enought to buy it (granted 
that i have enough bux).  SO from here on, I'll keep my opinions, and sudden 
bursts of stupid thought out of the elektron list, and help when needed.  
Good luck elektron... on a what looks to be a great new release, and hope 
that it spawns time, money, and ideas for new and exciting developments.
-sean



>
> > If at all possible, I'd love to see a larger picture of the front
> > panel.
>
>OK, just for you... :) md_demo/md_tilted_1024.jpg
>
>Please, do not spread it...
>
>Daniel
>

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Re: [elektron] Re:machinedrum

2001-03-01 by Sean Welch

daniel,
how many MD's are planned on being released? and do u guys got a external 
supplier to build these things for you?

btw...i think ya'll should do a limited edition.  Those are just fun to look 
at and fret about not getting one :) call it the samuri release or 
somethhing (reacuring theme here?!?).

-sean

> > OOoooo I like.  I for one will do my best to pick one up when it's
> > released.  Here's a question for ya: When's the Ninja version coming 
>out? :)
>
>No Ninja for this one. :) We have no limited edition planned for the
>Machinedrum. It will be pretty limited by itself anyway.
>
>Daniel
>

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Re: [elektron] machinedrum

2001-03-01 by jason

I for one am glad that you guys went all out for this one and didn't cut any
corners. Of course there are those of us who don't mind paying extra for a
well-thoughout machine. The Korg ER-1 was a great product for them, but it was
definitely short on features. The MachineDrum will definitely be in a class of
it's own.

As for the sounds posted on the website, I must say they were a little plain
sounding, compared to what I was expecting. I understand they are just a taste of
what's to come...but I'm hoping that enough real synthesis power has been
programmed into it to allow for really "out there" strange, unheard-of drum
sounds.

-jason



Daniel Hansson wrote:
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> Fourth, the estimated price is USD 1100 for the American market. What is
> this "I could get a XTR, 909 or 303 for that price"? Sure you can, and if
> you think that is better value - go for it. In the MD we have been serious
> about drum synthesis. The MD is a synthesizer just as much as the
> Microwave or Virus. Drummachines might usually be simple toys, but this
> certainly isn't. We could have decided to set the goal lower (to ER-1
> standards perhaps) and get a lower price. But we aimed higher and you'll
> have to respect that.

Re: [elektron] machinedrum

2001-03-01 by mr klown

Interesting looking, but i prefer reading.  Sorry if this has been said 
before, but when are the manuals and the system emerging?

Thanks for the hard work!

{mr}klown

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Sid Chip Identification

2001-03-01 by Skin Matrix

Hello everyone,

I recently came into a spare sid chip (I'll have 
another one very soon) and I was wondering if anyone
knows how to tell the chip revision. I know there was
four revisions to the 6581 the fourth sounding the
"best." What are the sonic qualities of the other 3 
revisions?

Also, I've been looking for an Sid 8580, are these 
directly compatible with the sidstation (i.e. can i
pry
out the 6581 and pop in the 8580)? Also has anyone
know
anything definite about the 8580. I think I read 
somewhere that it sounded smoother, is that correct?
ALso does anyone know what computers shipped with the 
8580? I think it will be easier to find and scrap 
computer with the chip in it (Heresy!) than to find a
NOS 8580 chip.

In Sid we trust,

mark

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http://www.mp3.com/SkinMatrix

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Re: [elektron] machinedrum

2001-03-01 by shifty@gweep.net

> what's to come...but I'm hoping that enough real synthesis power has been
> programmed into it to allow for really "out there" strange, unheard-of drum
> sounds.

how about putting 4 arp 2600's built into it, eh?

-N

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