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power failure MX10011

2015-05-24 by dowalbeert@...

Have MX10011 that I bought new in 1997, Replaced disc drive myself 4 years ago, quite a job, now having problem with piano playing fine then shuts off... disc drive still running but no power to rest of piano, Power Supply heats up then piano stops playing... let it rest a bit and it will play again fine then shuts down again... Checked with Yamaha and they said i need new power supply about $700.00... any suggestions? or input?... replacing power supply is simple procedure...

Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

2015-05-24 by uecker.juneau@juno.com

It would be nice to know the power supply output ratings. I would imagine that other supplies are available that are not rebranded by Yamaha. ... From:

Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

2015-05-25 by dowalbeert@...

Thanks for replying... Have had it playing today and it played an entire disc without a glitch... don't trust it though... saw a post on http://www.pianoworld.com

regarding power supply problems with this model.. they put up a link for the repair manual

Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

2015-05-25 by Carol Beigel

I doubt it is a power supply problem.  They either work or they don't.  My guess is either an  over heated pedal solenoid, or worn heads on the floppy drive.  Try loading a disk into memory and see if it doesn't play better.  

Carol Beigel


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> On May 25, 2015, at 1:52 AM, dowalbeert@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Thanks for replying... Have had it playing today and it played an entire disc without a glitch... don't trust it though... saw a post on http://www.pianoworld.com
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> regarding power supply problems with this model.. they put up a link for the repair manual 
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Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

2015-05-28 by dowalbeert@...

New Floppy Drive...2 years ago.... Played 5 songs tonight and then got power failure message... power supply felt very hot.... Thanks for your interest and help

Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

2015-05-29 by ROBERT LEBLANC

I believe others here have been able to have their DKV power supply repaired by an electronics repair technician.  While finding the right person may be a bit of a challenge, especially these days, it may be cost-effective option to explore.  You may be able to pick up a good 'lead' from your local music store given that they often need to accommodate customer repairs for amplifiers and other electronic music gear. 
  
Robert 
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New Floppy Drive...2 years ago.... Played 5 songs tonight and then got power failure message... power supply felt very hot.... Thanks for your interest and help

Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

2015-05-30 by Spencer Chase

power supplies are not terribly difficult to repair if you can get a schematic. does Yamaha provide them, my guess is that they do not and consider it inside information.

if it is a simple supply without complex regulation circuitry, you can often get them working by just replacing the electrolytic capacitors. these are usually the first parts to go especially in supplies that do run warm for many years.

On 5/29/2015 3:01 PM, ROBERT LEBLANC r_leblanc@... [disklavier] wrote:

I believe others here have been able to have their DKV power supply repaired by an electronics repair technician. While finding the right person may be a bit of a challenge, especially these days, it may be cost-effective option to explore. You may be able to pick up a good 'lead' from your local music store given that they often need to accommodate customer repairs for amplifiers and other electronic music gear.

Robert

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From: "dowalbeert@... [disklavier]"
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Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:20:46 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

New Floppy Drive...2 years ago.... Played 5 songs tonight and then got power failure message... power supply felt very hot.... Thanks for your interest and help



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(425) 791-0309

Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

2015-05-30 by Bill Brandom

Albert, 

I will try to send you a link to the manual and schematics (I believe they are in there.) I am presently in Cuba but should be able to make the link for you.

I will send the link to your email address, not the group.

Bill
Love God. Love People. Make a difference.


On May 29, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Spencer Chase lists@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

power supplies are not terribly difficult to repair if you can get a schematic. does Yamaha provide them, my guess is that they do not and consider it inside information.

if it is a simple supply without complex regulation circuitry, you can often get them working by just replacing the electrolytic capacitors. these are usually the first parts to go especially in supplies that do run warm for many years.

> On 5/29/2015 3:01 PM, ROBERT LEBLANC r_leblanc@... [disklavier] wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> I believe others here have been able to have their DKV power supply repaired by an electronics repair technician.  While finding the right person may be a bit of a challenge, especially these days, it may be cost-effective option to explore.  You may be able to pick up a good 'lead' from your local music store given that they often need to accommodate customer repairs for amplifiers and other electronic music gear.
> 
>  
> 
> Robert
> 
> From: "dowalbeert@... [disklavier]" <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:20:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011
> 
>  
> New Floppy Drive...2 years ago.... Played 5 songs tonight and then got power failure message... power supply felt very hot.... Thanks for your interest and help
> 

-- 

Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(425) 791-0309

Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

2015-06-02 by Jeff Joseph

Mine has begun to blow the 7A fast blow fuse again, So I’m gonna replace the Capacitors in the power supply as a starting point. If you have a schematic with accurate test voltages that would be much appreciated. 

Jeff
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> On May 29, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Albert, 
> 
> I will try to send you a link to the manual and schematics (I believe they are in there.) I am presently in Cuba but should be able to make the link for you.
> 
> I will send the link to your email address, not the group.
> 
> Bill
> Love God. Love People. Make a difference.
> 
> 
> On May 29, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Spencer Chase lists@... <mailto:lists@...> [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@...m>> wrote:
> 
>  
> power supplies are not terribly difficult to repair if you can get a schematic. does Yamaha provide them, my guess is that they do not and consider it inside information.
> 
> if it is a simple supply without complex regulation circuitry, you can often get them working by just replacing the electrolytic capacitors. these are usually the first parts to go especially in supplies that do run warm for many years.
> 
> 
> On 5/29/2015 3:01 PM, ROBERT LEBLANC r_leblanc@... <mailto:r_leblanc@...> [disklavier] wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> I believe others here have been able to have their DKV power supply repaired by an electronics repair technician.  While finding the right person may be a bit of a challenge, especially these days, it may be cost-effective option to explore.  You may be able to pick up a good 'lead' from your local music store given that they often need to accommodate customer repairs for amplifiers and other electronic music gear.
>> 
>>  
>> Robert
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>> 
>> 
>> From: "dowalbeert@... [disklavier]" <mailto:dowalbeert@...[disklavier]> <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>> To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:20:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011
>> 
>>  
>> New Floppy Drive...2 years ago.... Played 5 songs tonight and then got power failure message... power supply felt very hot.... Thanks for your interest and help
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Best regards, Spencer Chase
> 67550-Bell Springs Rd.
> Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
> Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
> Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...>
> http://www.spencerserolls.com <http://www.spencerserolls.com/>
> (425) 791-0309
> 
> 
>

Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

2015-06-02 by Spencer Chase

replace the electrolytics first. these are the ones that fail. my favorite simple PS fix was a couple of Mac computers that were known for failing after just 3 or 4 years. Apple's "fix" was to replace the motherboard at great cost. the problem turned out to be some no name capacitors on the motherboard that were just filter caps for the power supply. cost about $5 instead of $500. at the cost of a Mac, they should have used tantalum caps, not nameless (probably Chinese) garbage. and their voltage rating was only about 10% over working voltage.

if you have room for higher voltage caps might as well use them.

On 6/1/2015 7:56 PM, Jeff Joseph josephaud@... [disklavier] wrote:

Mine has begun to blow the 7A fast blow fuse again, So I’m gonna replace the Capacitors in the power supply as a starting point. If you have a schematic with accurate test voltages that would be much appreciated.


Jeff

On May 29, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Albert,

I will try to send you a link to the manual and schematics (I believe they are in there.) I am presently in Cuba but should be able to make the link for you.

I will send the link to your email address, not the group.

Bill
Love God. Love People. Make a difference.


On May 29, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Spencer Chase lists@spencerserolls.com [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

power supplies are not terribly difficult to repair if you can get a schematic. does Yamaha provide them, my guess is that they do not and consider it inside information.

if it is a simple supply without complex regulation circuitry, you can often get them working by just replacing the electrolytic capacitors. these are usually the first parts to go especially in supplies that do run warm for many years.

On 5/29/2015 3:01 PM, ROBERT LEBLANC r_leblanc@shaw.ca [disklavier] wrote:

I believe others here have been able to have their DKV power supply repaired by an electronics repair technician. While finding the right person may be a bit of a challenge, especially these days, it may be cost-effective option to explore. You may be able to pick up a good 'lead' from your local music store given that they often need to accommodate customer repairs for amplifiers and other electronic music gear.


Robert


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From: "dowalbeert@... [disklavier]"
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:20:46 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

New Floppy Drive...2 years ago.... Played 5 songs tonight and then got power failure message... power supply felt very hot.... Thanks for your interest and help



-- 

Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(425) 791-0309




-- 

Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(425) 791-0309

RE: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

2015-06-02 by Larry Blake

Seems the most common failure in electronics now of days involves cheap electrolytic caps. 
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From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 11:39 PM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
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replace the electrolytics first. these are the ones that fail. my favorite simple PS fix was a couple of Mac computers that were known for failing after just 3 or 4 years. Apple's "fix" was to replace the motherboard at great cost. the problem turned out to be some no name capacitors on the motherboard that were just filter caps for the power supply. cost about $5 instead of $500. at the cost of a Mac, they should have used tantalum caps, not nameless (probably Chinese) garbage. and their voltage rating was  only about 10% over working voltage.

if you have room for higher voltage caps might as well use them.

On 6/1/2015 7:56 PM, Jeff Joseph josephaud@... <mailto:josephaud@...>  [disklavier] wrote:

  

Mine has begun to blow the 7A fast blow fuse again, So I’m gonna replace the Capacitors in the power supply as a starting point. If you have a schematic with accurate test voltages that would be much appreciated. 

 

Jeff

 

On May 29, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Bill Brandom billbrando@... <mailto:billbrando@...>  [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:

 

 

Albert, 

 

I will try to send you a link to the manual and schematics (I believe they are in there.) I am presently in Cuba but should be able to make the link for you.

 

I will send the link to your email address, not the group.

 

Bill

Love God. Love People. Make a difference.

 


On May 29, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Spencer Chase lists@... <mailto:lists@...>  [disklavier] <disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:

  

power supplies are not terribly difficult to repair if you can get a schematic. does Yamaha provide them, my guess is that they do not and consider it inside information.

if it is a simple supply without complex regulation circuitry, you can often get them working by just replacing the electrolytic capacitors. these are usually the first parts to go especially in supplies that do run warm for many years.

On 5/29/2015 3:01 PM, ROBERT LEBLANC r_leblanc@... <mailto:r_leblanc@shaw.ca>  [disklavier] wrote:

  

 

I believe others here have been able to have their DKV power supply repaired by an electronics repair technician.  While finding the right person may be a bit of a challenge, especially these days, it may be cost-effective option to explore.  You may be able to pick up a good 'lead' from your local music store given that they often need to accommodate customer repairs for amplifiers and other electronic music gear.

 

Robert

 


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From:  <mailto:dowalbeert@...[disklavier]> "dowalbeert@... [disklavier]"  <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com <mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:20:46 AM
Subject: Re: [disklavier] power failure MX10011

  

New Floppy Drive...2 years ago.... Played 5 songs tonight and then got power failure message... power supply felt very hot.... Thanks for your interest and help

 





-- 
 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...> 
http://www.spencerserolls.com <http://www.spencerserolls.com/> 
(425) 791-0309

 

 

 





-- 
 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550-Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@... <mailto:Spencer@...> 
http://www.spencerserolls.com
(425) 791-0309

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