Datacolor User to User Support Group.

Well, this is a HUGE revelation. It would not be obvious to use Epson
color controls when making the target. I will follow these directions
and report back.

I tried CS2 this am with a new profile and it now doesn't work so that
threw that conflict idea out anyway.

I have noted that Colorsync is preselected and greyed/dimmed out on
printing so there is no choice but to use it. 

So right now when I have Colorsync set making the traget and making
the proof print they work, the minute I am outside PrintFix the target
then becomes an issue in that it was created improperly and thus
generates a profile that in essence would only work with Epson color
controls if you could have PS and Epson both control things which of
course is not the case.

I agree with the note that the target looks "pretty" - it is a very
accurate looking set of patches. Now I see why.

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, David Miller <dm2363@...> wrote:
>
> 

> 
> I can tell you with almost 100% certainty: your problem is that you've
> printed the target wrong: color managed. Everything that you do
> after that will be wrong - the measurements are color managed, the
> profile you build from them does almost nothing, and then when you
> use it in Photoshop, with everything set up correctly: you get a
> print that's not color managed, and the profile does nothing to fix
> this, so: heavy color cast.
> 
> The Epson drivers, when used with Leopard, can be confusing, but
> they WILL work correctly.
> 
> !!!! MOST IMPORTANT !!!!
> 
> When you print the target from inside PrintFIX PRO/Spyder3Print:
> you HAVE to go to the Color Matching pane and select "Epson Color
> Controls". You must NOT choose ColorSync. (By default, the Epson
> drivers under Leopard auto-select ColorSync and this is where many
> people are having problems). When you are INSIDE PRINTFIX PRO OR
> SPYDER3PRINT, making a target print with ColorSync selected in
> the Color Matching pane will give you an INCORRECTLY PRINTED,
> color managed target and any profiling you do after that will
> be WRONG.
> 
> Later on: after you've built the profile; and when you're doing
> your printing from inside Photoshop, with "Photoshop Manages
> Colors" selected in the Photoshop print dialog: when you eventually
> get into the OSX print dialog, there's another point of potential
> confusion: when you go into the Color Matching pane in the Epson
> driver, you'll find that both of the radio button controls
> have been dimmed (disabled) and that ColorSync is selected,
> rather than Epson Color Controls... and that there's nothing that
> you can do to change this. As troubling and confusing as this
> appears, you WILL get the proper results... the Epson driver will
> NOT use ColorSync, it will print without color management
> (regardless of how these controls appear) and you will get a perfect
> print.
> 
> SUMMARY: (For using Epson drivers with OSX Leopard):
> 
> 1a. When printing targets from inside PrintFIX PRO/Spyder3Print,
> you MUST set the radio button controls in the Color Matching pane
> of the OSX print driver to "Epson Color Controls" (NOT COLORSYNC).
> 
> 1b. When printing targets from inside Photoshop (most people
> won't be doing this, but some might): set Photoshop's controls
> in its own Print dialog for "No Color Management" and then ignore
> the settings in the OSX print dialog pane for Color Matching (they
> come up disabled and with ColorSync selected; just IGNORE this).
> 
> 2a. When printing using a profile (SpyderProof feature, immediately
> after building a profile) from inside PrintFIX PRO/Spyder3Print,
> you need to go into the Color Matching pane of the OSX print dialog
> and choose Epson Color Controls (the two radio buttons will not
> be disabled), to match how these were set when you printed the target.
> 
> 2b. When printing using a profile from inside Photoshop, choose
> "Photoshop Manages Colors" and the printer profile, etc. and (just
> as in 1b above) ignore the settings in the Color Matching pane of
> the OSX print dialog (again: they'll be dimmed, and ColorSync
> will be selected, and there's nothing you can do to change that...
> the driver will behave the right way, even though the control
> setting tries to make you think otherwise).
> 
> 
> *****
> 
> You should be able to solve your R1800 problems by:
> 
> - Reading what I've written above, carefully.
> 
> - Reprinting your target. Compare the new target print to the one
> you've previously used. You should see that the new target print
> is visibly darker than the first.
> 
> - Remeasure and build a new profile. Throw out the old measurements,
> so that you don't use them again by accident. Keep the original
> target print around as a reference so that you'll always be able
> to tell what an improperly printed target looks like (color managed
> targets are too "light" and "pretty"... a non-color managed target
> print should be dark, brooding, and heavy)...:-)
> 
> *****
> 
> Everyone who is using Epson printers under Leopard needs to follow
> the same rules, as described above.
> 
> 
> 
> David Miller
> Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
> Datacolor
>