Analogue-sequencer

Thanks duncan.

I would have searched the beta group, but apparently no one can read it unless you have bought the Cirklon... not something that I feel is very helpful I have to say - even being able to read but not post to it would be better - not sure why it needs to be behind 'closed doors'. As a prospective owner, I would really like to see all the discussions being held, even if I can't post there.

Regarding negative offset, the pattern should not 'wrap' the first note to the end, the sequencer should just play the pushed note before the start of the bar - IOW it needs to look forward and see if any notes are set to play at the start of the bar, with a negative offset.

Regarding groove and swing, I think just having some templates would be good, either user made or preset. Is swing implemented or not?

Thanks,

Nik



--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "duncan" <ferrograph@...> wrote:
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> >>1 - Is there swing on the Cirklon? And / or groove template type things?<<
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> kind of.... you should probably put your search terms into the cirklon-beta group messages; there's a lot more discussion there than here. 
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> one of the things I've been plaguing colin for is something that extracts timing offsets from a live-recorded cirklon pattern & imposes it on other cirklon patterns or even onto the cirklon's P3-type patterns. 
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> a sort of reverse-quantize.
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> the idea is that rather than aligning all your sloppily played notes to a strict grid, you bend the grid around the feel of your playing. there is already a control in the cirklon for how much quantisation is applied to a (badly-played) cirklon "recording". this just applies the same math(s) with the logic reversed.
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> but one glance at the group messages will give you some idea of the number of requests for features & tweaks that the birthday boy got yesterday. :-)
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> >>2 - Is there a way to have negative offset on tracks or patterns? I see there is a 'delay' parameter per note on a P3 pattern, but it only seems to go positive. I find it very useful to have negative offset per track, especially for drums.<<
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> +1 on that, & I have also been asking for something like this. 
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> I see where you're coming from, but there's a problem with slipping the first event in a pattern- do you leave it on tick 0 or push it round to the end of the pattern? & then what happens if you add more bars or change the last step? I used to play with the offset values on my alesis mmt8 to tighten up timing, & watch notes disappear from the first step to the last step of patterns. sometimes it was a real nuisance.
> what I've been asking for (& this applies to P3 rather than cirklon patterns, so P3 aswell as cirklon hardware) is a way to have pre-emptive repeats. same problem- what do you do with the first step?
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> musically, this would allow you to set up triplets etcetera, around or ahead of the beat, a common technique in percussion, & one that would be familiar to anyone (like me!) that's analysed chris franke's use of the moog 960 on "stratosfear".
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> duncan.
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