>>1 - Is there swing on the Cirklon? And / or groove template type things?<< kind of.... you should probably put your search terms into the cirklon-beta group messages; there's a lot more discussion there than here. one of the things I've been plaguing colin for is something that extracts timing offsets from a live-recorded cirklon pattern & imposes it on other cirklon patterns or even onto the cirklon's P3-type patterns. a sort of reverse-quantize. the idea is that rather than aligning all your sloppily played notes to a strict grid, you bend the grid around the feel of your playing. there is already a control in the cirklon for how much quantisation is applied to a (badly-played) cirklon "recording". this just applies the same math(s) with the logic reversed. but one glance at the group messages will give you some idea of the number of requests for features & tweaks that the birthday boy got yesterday. :-) >>2 - Is there a way to have negative offset on tracks or patterns? I see there is a 'delay' parameter per note on a P3 pattern, but it only seems to go positive. I find it very useful to have negative offset per track, especially for drums.<< +1 on that, & I have also been asking for something like this. I see where you're coming from, but there's a problem with slipping the first event in a pattern- do you leave it on tick 0 or push it round to the end of the pattern? & then what happens if you add more bars or change the last step? I used to play with the offset values on my alesis mmt8 to tighten up timing, & watch notes disappear from the first step to the last step of patterns. sometimes it was a real nuisance. what I've been asking for (& this applies to P3 rather than cirklon patterns, so P3 aswell as cirklon hardware) is a way to have pre-emptive repeats. same problem- what do you do with the first step? musically, this would allow you to set up triplets etcetera, around or ahead of the beat, a common technique in percussion, & one that would be familiar to anyone (like me!) that's analysed chris franke's use of the moog 960 on "stratosfear". duncan.
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Re: Timing questions - Swing And Offset
2011-10-30 by duncan
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