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views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback please

2014-11-20 by jesper

Hi list members - it's moderator hour! :)

I try to keep a good eye on this list. 99% of the communications flows
smoothly. The message below was a phishing attempt and I guess Darren's
account was hacked. He became a member in 2005 and hasn't been active in
recent times. I have thrown him out and deleted the message.

Most similar attempts are blocked effectively by the rule of moderation.
New members are moderated and I try to remove the moderation of active
members after a few months (the new system at Yahoogroups needs to be
managed manually) when they've proved they/you know their/your hexagons
and are here for the discussion and community.

Anyway, I'd like to throw a few questions in your direction:

1. Do we need to "clean up" the member list? There are MANY members not
receiving any mails, they're just members (including our list owner
Scott btw). The list would be easier to manage and I prefer a list with
active members instead of a list with hundreds of inactive members (we
are today 733 members and sorted by joining date I'm number 8, back in
2002). Circa 60-70% never even receive our mails.
2. Sometimes we see apologizes from new members when their first post is
an ad. Is this a problem? (I've let them pass this far, but would like
your views on this.)
3. There have been a very friendly mood on the list in recent times.
This is good news. Some of you may remember this hasn't always been the
case. (I and a few others took a lot of onlist and offlist beating last
time.) Am I doing an OK job here?
4. Adding pictures and similar on the website is fairly unmoderated. In
your opinion, does this work well? (or did I start something bad now by
pointing this out?!)

Let me know your views and feel free to come with honest feedback,
whine, praise, whatever...

Hexagonically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

---

Angaudlinn on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/angaudlinn/id582356650

Angaudlinn's playlist på Spotify:
http://open.spotify.com/user/simplyanalogue/playlist/540Srd3zA15pK7G1S8qLHo

Angaudlinn on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/Angaudlinn


'Dazzathedrummer' darren.bullough@... [Simmons_Drums] skrev
2014-11-19 08:09:
> http://mehmetcomert.net/dbfh/riwhguevzcxnaenuazubpbkzoatgq.xmylzwbesmdzfybeudzdfmzkqgzpwkpupjzvpkp
>
> Dazzathedrummer
>
>

Re: [Simmons Drums] views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback please

2014-11-21 by Jim Barber

Your doing a fine job. As far as deleting non-active members and overall cleanup that is good as long as any members who seem to be inactive are given the chance to stay on if they wish. I suspect there are members who just monitor and those probably should stay on. But the only way to find out is ask them. No response or responses where they would not want to stay on should be deleted. As far as clean up, do what makes your job easier or easiest.

I don’t see the need for any ads that do not pertain to the subject.


pictures are ok, but if that adds to your workload, don’t do it.

Thanks,

Jim

Jim Barber
lewisbarber@sympatico.ca




On Nov 20, 2014, at 6:31 PM, jesper jesper@electronic-obsession.se [Simmons_Drums] <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi list members - it's moderator hour! :)

I try to keep a good eye on this list. 99% of the communications flows
smoothly. The message below was a phishing attempt and I guess Darren's
account was hacked. He became a member in 2005 and hasn't been active in
recent times. I have thrown him out and deleted the message.

Most similar attempts are blocked effectively by the rule of moderation.
New members are moderated and I try to remove the moderation of active
members after a few months (the new system at Yahoogroups needs to be
managed manually) when they've proved they/you know their/your hexagons
and are here for the discussion and community.

Anyway, I'd like to throw a few questions in your direction:

1. Do we need to "clean up" the member list? There are MANY members not
receiving any mails, they're just members (including our list owner
Scott btw). The list would be easier to manage and I prefer a list with
active members instead of a list with hundreds of inactive members (we
are today 733 members and sorted by joining date I'm number 8, back in
2002). Circa 60-70% never even receive our mails.
2. Sometimes we see apologizes from new members when their first post is
an ad. Is this a problem? (I've let them pass this far, but would like
your views on this.)
3. There have been a very friendly mood on the list in recent times.
This is good news. Some of you may remember this hasn't always been the
case. (I and a few others took a lot of onlist and offlist beating last
time.) Am I doing an OK job here?
4. Adding pictures and similar on the website is fairly unmoderated. In
your opinion, does this work well? (or did I start something bad now by
pointing this out?!)

Let me know your views and feel free to come with honest feedback,
whine, praise, whatever...

Hexagonically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

---

Angaudlinn on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/angaudlinn/id582356650

Angaudlinn's playlist på Spotify:
http://open.spotify.com/user/simplyanalogue/playlist/540Srd3zA15pK7G1S8qLHo

Angaudlinn on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/Angaudlinn

'Dazzathedrummer' darren.bullough@btinternet.com [Simmons_Drums] skrev
2014-11-19 08:09:
> http://mehmetcomert.net/dbfh/riwhguevzcxnaenuazubpbkzoatgq.xmylzwbesmdzfybeudzdfmzkqgzpwkpupjzvpkp
>
> Dazzathedrummer
>
>


Re : Re: [Simmons Drums] views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback please

2014-11-21 by Jacquot.Patrice@...

Hi Jesper , you're doing a real fine job mate.
I have no time now to evaluate all your questions sadly , but I trust you. I'm more than satisfied by your group managing.
I have no special demand or proposition.
It seems ok to me.
I also think that the group became again a very positive place with people bringing some nice propositions.

I'll try to think about what you're pointing out.
Pictures at the moment are quite good informations & sharings.

Take care, & thanks for your concerns & implication !!


----- Mail d'origine -----
De: Jim Barber lewisbarber@... [Simmons_Drums] <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
À: Simmons Drums <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 01:09:03 +0100 (CET)
Objet: Re: [Simmons Drums] views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback please





Your doing a fine job. As far as deleting non-active members and overall cleanup that is good as long as any members who seem to be inactive are given the chance to stay on if they wish. I suspect there are members who just monitor and those probably should stay on. But the only way to find out is ask them. No response or responses where they would not want to stay on should be deleted. As far as clean up, do what makes your job easier or easiest.


I don’t see the need for any ads that do not pertain to the subject.


pictures are ok, but if that adds to your workload, don’t do it.

Thanks,

Jim

Jim Barber




On Nov 20, 2014, at 6:31 PM, jesper jesper@... [Simmons_Drums] <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi list members - it's moderator hour! :)

I try to keep a good eye on this list. 99% of the communications flows
smoothly. The message below was a phishing attempt and I guess Darren's
account was hacked. He became a member in 2005 and hasn't been active in
recent times. I have thrown him out and deleted the message.

Most similar attempts are blocked effectively by the rule of moderation.
New members are moderated and I try to remove the moderation of active
members after a few months (the new system at Yahoogroups needs to be
managed manually) when they've proved they/you know their/your hexagons
and are here for the discussion and community.

Anyway, I'd like to throw a few questions in your direction:

1. Do we need to "clean up" the member list? There are MANY members not
receiving any mails, they're just members (including our list owner
Scott btw). The list would be easier to manage and I prefer a list with
active members instead of a list with hundreds of inactive members (we
are today 733 members and sorted by joining date I'm number 8, back in
2002). Circa 60-70% never even receive our mails.
2. Sometimes we see apologizes from new members when their first post is
an ad. Is this a problem? (I've let them pass this far, but would like
your views on this.)
3. There have been a very friendly mood on the list in recent times.
This is good news. Some of you may remember this hasn't always been the
case. (I and a few others took a lot of onlist and offlist beating last
time.) Am I doing an OK job here?
4. Adding pictures and similar on the website is fairly unmoderated. In
your opinion, does this work well? (or did I start something bad now by
pointing this out?!)

Let me know your views and feel free to come with honest feedback,
whine, praise, whatever...

Hexagonically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

---

Angaudlinn on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/angaudlinn/id582356650

Angaudlinn's playlist på Spotify:
http://open.spotify.com/user/simplyanalogue/playlist/540Srd3zA15pK7G1S8qLHo

Angaudlinn on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/Angaudlinn

'Dazzathedrummer' darren.bullough@... [Simmons_Drums] skrev
2014-11-19 08:09:
> http://mehmetcomert.net/dbfh/riwhguevzcxnaenuazubpbkzoatgq.xmylzwbesmdzfybeudzdfmzkqgzpwkpupjzvpkp
>
> Dazzathedrummer
>
>





Re: [Simmons Drums] views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback please

2014-11-21 by sovereigng@...

Don't banish me! I own a Musicaid Claptrap and Silicon Mallet! I'm still cool.
I've had bouncing issues w/ Yahoo for whatever reason but I get group mail whenever there's chatter.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: jesper jesper@... [Simmons_Drums] <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
To: Simmons_Drums <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Nov 20, 2014 6:31 pm
Subject: [Simmons Drums] views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback please

Hi list members - it's moderator hour! :)

I try to keep a good eye on this list. 99% of the communications flows
smoothly. The message below was a phishing attempt and I guess Darren's
account was hacked. He became a member in 2005 and hasn't been active in
recent times. I have thrown him out and deleted the message.

Most similar attempts are blocked effectively by the rule of moderation.
New members are moderated and I try to remove the moderation of active
members after a few months (the new system at Yahoogroups needs to be
managed manually) when they've proved they/you know their/your hexagons
and are here for the discussion and community.

Anyway, I'd like to throw a few questions in your direction:

1. Do we need to "clean up" the member list? There are MANY members not
receiving any mails, they're just members (including our list owner
Scott btw). The list would be easier to manage and I prefer a list with
active members instead of a list with hundreds of inactive members (we
are today 733 members and sorted by joining date I'm number 8, back in
2002). Circa 60-70% never even receive our mails.
2. Sometimes we see apologizes from new members when their first post is
an ad. Is this a problem? (I've let them pass this far, but would like
your views on this.)
3. There have been a very friendly mood on the list in recent times.
This is good news. Some of you may remember this hasn't always been the
case. (I and a few others took a lot of onlist and offlist beating last
time.) Am I doing an OK job here?
4. Adding pictures and similar on the website is fairly unmoderated. In
your opinion, does this work well? (or did I start something bad now by
pointing this out?!)

Let me know your views and feel free to come with honest feedback,
whine, praise, whatever...

Hexagonically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

---

Angaudlinn on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/angaudlinn/id582356650

Angaudlinn's playlist på Spotify:
http://open.spotify.com/user/simplyanalogue/playlist/540Srd3zA15pK7G1S8qLHo

Angaudlinn on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/Angaudlinn

'Dazzathedrummer' darren.bullough@... [Simmons_Drums] skrev
2014-11-19 08:09:
> http://mehmetcomert.net/dbfh/riwhguevzcxnaenuazubpbkzoatgq.xmylzwbesmdzfybeudzdfmzkqgzpwkpupjzvpkp
>
> Dazzathedrummer
>
>

Re: views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback please

2014-11-21 by Scott Gibbons

> 2. Sometimes we see apologizes from new members when their first post is
an ad. Is this a problem? (I've let them pass this far, but would like
your views on this.)


I don't have a problem with this as long as the items posted for sale are
genuine Simmons or MusicAid, and they're being offered for sale directly
to members of this list.

I find it in very poor taste to post a link to an eBay auction. That
cheapens and undermines the sense of community here...

Which brings me round to your question #3: You're doing a great job, and I
love being a part of this group!


all my best,
- Scott

Re: [Simmons Drums] views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback please

2014-11-21 by VinceL

Jesper,

I'm a regular reader, but unfortunately, not much of a contributor. For the
last several years, I have sadly neglected my Simmons gear for a number of
reasons and have not really had anything to contribute. I do own an SDX,
SDS7, SDS8, MTM, and a Portakit. I find the discussions interesting.
Please don't delete me.

-----Original Message-----
From: jesper jesper@... [Simmons_Drums]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:31 PM
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Simmons Drums] views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback
please

Hi list members - it's moderator hour! :)

I try to keep a good eye on this list. 99% of the communications flows
smoothly. The message below was a phishing attempt and I guess Darren's
account was hacked. He became a member in 2005 and hasn't been active in
recent times. I have thrown him out and deleted the message.

Most similar attempts are blocked effectively by the rule of moderation.
New members are moderated and I try to remove the moderation of active
members after a few months (the new system at Yahoogroups needs to be
managed manually) when they've proved they/you know their/your hexagons
and are here for the discussion and community.

Anyway, I'd like to throw a few questions in your direction:

1. Do we need to "clean up" the member list? There are MANY members not
receiving any mails, they're just members (including our list owner
Scott btw). The list would be easier to manage and I prefer a list with
active members instead of a list with hundreds of inactive members (we
are today 733 members and sorted by joining date I'm number 8, back in
2002). Circa 60-70% never even receive our mails.
2. Sometimes we see apologizes from new members when their first post is
an ad. Is this a problem? (I've let them pass this far, but would like
your views on this.)
3. There have been a very friendly mood on the list in recent times.
This is good news. Some of you may remember this hasn't always been the
case. (I and a few others took a lot of onlist and offlist beating last
time.) Am I doing an OK job here?
4. Adding pictures and similar on the website is fairly unmoderated. In
your opinion, does this work well? (or did I start something bad now by
pointing this out?!)

Let me know your views and feel free to come with honest feedback,
whine, praise, whatever...

Hexagonically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

---

Angaudlinn on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/angaudlinn/id582356650

Angaudlinn's playlist på Spotify:
http://open.spotify.com/user/simplyanalogue/playlist/540Srd3zA15pK7G1S8qLHo

Angaudlinn on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/Angaudlinn


'Dazzathedrummer' darren.bullough@... [Simmons_Drums] skrev
2014-11-19 08:09:
> http://mehmetcomert.net/dbfh/riwhguevzcxnaenuazubpbkzoatgq.xmylzwbesmdzfybeudzdfmzkqgzpwkpupjzvpkp
>
> Dazzathedrummer
>
>





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Re: views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback please

2014-11-22 by philmurr@...

Hi there Jesper !

You're doing a great job as mod - don't change things.

And please don't boot off those members who don't post - at least not without asking them first. I'm on lots of lists where I just lurk...and learn...but don't have a lot to say. I'm sure a lot of members here are like that.

Re: [Simmons Drums] views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback please

2014-11-22 by Phil a

All only my opinion of course:

1. no need to clean anything as long as no spam is sent. Maybe put all "sleeping" members under moderated status and remove the moderation once they have revealed they are "real people" ? so you don't get any sudden bad surprise...
2. again, no problem for me as long as it is no spam.
3. no complaints here, you seem to be doing fine...
4. same as above...

Keep up the good work !
Phil

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:31 AM, jesper jesper@... [Simmons_Drums] <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi list members - it's moderator hour! :)

I try to keep a good eye on this list. 99% of the communications flows
smoothly. The message below was a phishing attempt and I guess Darren's
account was hacked. He became a member in 2005 and hasn't been active in
recent times. I have thrown him out and deleted the message.

Most similar attempts are blocked effectively by the rule of moderation.
New members are moderated and I try to remove the moderation of active
members after a few months (the new system at Yahoogroups needs to be
managed manually) when they've proved they/you know their/your hexagons
and are here for the discussion and community.

Anyway, I'd like to throw a few questions in your direction:

1. Do we need to "clean up" the member list? There are MANY members not
receiving any mails, they're just members (including our list owner
Scott btw). The list would be easier to manage and I prefer a list with
active members instead of a list with hundreds of inactive members (we
are today 733 members and sorted by joining date I'm number 8, back in
2002). Circa 60-70% never even receive our mails.
2. Sometimes we see apologizes from new members when their first post is
an ad. Is this a problem? (I've let them pass this far, but would like
your views on this.)
3. There have been a very friendly mood on the list in recent times.
This is good news. Some of you may remember this hasn't always been the
case. (I and a few others took a lot of onlist and offlist beating last
time.) Am I doing an OK job here?
4. Adding pictures and similar on the website is fairly unmoderated. In
your opinion, does this work well? (or did I start something bad now by
pointing this out?!)

Let me know your views and feel free to come with honest feedback,
whine, praise, whatever...

Hexagonically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

---

Angaudlinn on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/angaudlinn/id582356650

Angaudlinn's playlist på Spotify:
http://open.spotify.com/user/simplyanalogue/playlist/540Srd3zA15pK7G1S8qLHo

Angaudlinn on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/Angaudlinn

'Dazzathedrummer' darren.bullough@... [Simmons_Drums] skrev
2014-11-19 08:09:
> http://mehmetcomert.net/dbfh/riwhguevzcxnaenuazubpbkzoatgq.xmylzwbesmdzfybeudzdfmzkqgzpwkpupjzvpkp
>
> Dazzathedrummer
>
>


Re: views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback please

2014-11-22 by capnfishy@...

I may be classed as a non-active member, but I watch out for SDS9 related posts. Mine are in storage for the foreseeable future but I like to watch what's going on.


A climbing forum I belong to sends a quarterly reminder & I have to click through to stay active. Is there any feature like this on this forum setup?

J

Re: [Simmons Drums] views on spam, non-active members etc - feedback please

2014-11-24 by jesper

:D

I recognize many of you so don't worry. I was mainly wondering if any of
the older members who never post will answer these questions.
And I wanted to ask you all if there were other concerns out there.

--
electronically yours, jesper

- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

---

Angaudlinn on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/angaudlinn/id582356650

Angaudlinn's playlist på Spotify:
http://open.spotify.com/user/simplyanalogue/playlist/540Srd3zA15pK7G1S8qLHo

Angaudlinn on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/Angaudlinn


sovereigng@... [Simmons_Drums] skrev 2014-11-21 20:08:
> Don't banish me! I own a Musicaid Claptrap and Silicon Mallet! I'm still
> cool.
> I've had bouncing issues w/ Yahoo for whatever reason but I get group
> mail whenever there's chatter.
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jesper jesper@... [Simmons_Drums]
> <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> To: Simmons_Drums <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 20, 2014 6:31 pm
> Subject: [Simmons Drums] views on spam, non-active members etc -
> feedback please
>
> Hi list members - it's moderator hour! :)
>
> I try to keep a good eye on this list. 99% of the communications flows
> smoothly. The message below was a phishing attempt and I guess Darren's
> account was hacked. He became a member in 2005 and hasn't been active in
> recent times. I have thrown him out and deleted the message.
>
> Most similar attempts are blocked effectively by the rule of moderation.
> New members are moderated and I try to remove the moderation of active
> members after a few months (the new system at Yahoogroups needs to be
> managed manually) when they've proved they/you know their/your hexagons
> and are here for the discussion and community.
>
> Anyway, I'd like to throw a few questions in your direction:
>
> 1. Do we need to "clean up" the member list? There are MANY members not
> receiving any mails, they're just members (including our list owner
> Scott btw). The list would be easier to manage and I prefer a list with
> active members instead of a list with hundreds of inactive members (we
> are today 733 members and sorted by joining date I'm number 8, back in
> 2002). Circa 60-70% never even receive our mails.
> 2. Sometimes we see apologizes from new members when their first post is
> an ad. Is this a problem? (I've let them pass this far, but would like
> your views on this.)
> 3. There have been a very friendly mood on the list in recent times.
> This is good news. Some of you may remember this hasn't always been the
> case. (I and a few others took a lot of onlist and offlist beating last
> time.) Am I doing an OK job here?
> 4. Adding pictures and similar on the website is fairly unmoderated. In
> your opinion, does this work well? (or did I start something bad now by
> pointing this out?!)
>
> Let me know your views and feel free to come with honest feedback,
> whine, praise, whatever...
>
> Hexagonically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se <http://www.electronic-obsession.se>
>
> ---
>
> Angaudlinn on iTunes:
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/angaudlinn/id582356650
>
> Angaudlinn's playlist på Spotify:
> http://open.spotify.com/user/simplyanalogue/playlist/540Srd3zA15pK7G1S8qLHo
>
> Angaudlinn on facebook:
> https://www.facebook.com/Angaudlinn
>
> 'Dazzathedrummer' darren.bullough@...
> <mailto:darren.bullough@...> [Simmons_Drums] skrev
> 2014-11-19 08:09:
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> http://mehmetcomert.net/dbfh/riwhguevzcxnaenuazubpbkzoatgq.xmylzwbesmdzfybeudzdfmzkqgzpwkpupjzvpkp
> >
> > Dazzathedrummer
> >
> >
>
>
>
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