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Simmons SDS 6 gate question

Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-14 by vout@...

Hi,

I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606 (tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right.

My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in, x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6 trigger in.

This generally worked quite well and even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.

Cheers, vout

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--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:
>
> hello! so i am trying to get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
>
> i see that it expects 15 volts. this is a lot...
>
> but i am trying to lock it to a garfield electronics mini doc. i figured this would do it.
>
> thanks!
>
> z
>
> NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
>
> --------------------------------------
>
>
> New Alliance East - Mastering
>
> New Alliance East - Facebook
>
> X :::: B :::: S
>

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-14 by Nick Zampiello

awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.

I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it. than it could be slaved to anything really.

z

NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook
X :::: B :::: S


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On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:
Hi,

I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606 (tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right.

My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in, x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6 trigger in.

This generally worked quite well and even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.

Cheers, vout

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:
>
> hello! so i am trying to get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
>
> i see that it expects 15 volts. this is a lot...
>
> but i am trying to lock it to a garfield electronics mini doc. i figured this would do it.
>
> thanks!
>
> z
>
> NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
>
> --------------------------------------
>
>
> New Alliance East - Mastering
>
> New Alliance East - Facebook
>
> X :::: B :::: S
>



Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-18 by Michael Buchner


Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the trick.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.

I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it. than it could be slaved to anything really.

z

NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook
X :::: B :::: S




On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:
Hi,

I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606 (tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right.

My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in, x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6 trigger in.

This generally worked quite well and even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.

Cheers, vout

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:
>
> hello! so i am trying to get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
>
> i see that it expects 15 volts. this is a lot...
>
> but i am trying to lock it to a garfield electronics mini doc. i figured this would do it.
>
> thanks!
>
> z
>
> NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
>
> --------------------------------------
>
>
> New Alliance East - Mastering
>
> New Alliance East - Facebook
>
> X :::: B :::: S
>



Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-18 by Nick Zampiello

ok cool, i was unclear as to what changing these would do. thanks!

z
NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook
X :::: B :::: S


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On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:03 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:

Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the trick.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.

I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it. than it could be slaved to anything really.

z

NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook
X :::: B :::: S




On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:
Hi,

I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606 (tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right.

My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in, x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6 trigger in.

This generally worked quite well and even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.

Cheers, vout

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:
>
> hello! so i am trying to get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
>
> i see that it expects 15 volts. this is a lot...
>
> but i am trying to lock it to a garfield electronics mini doc. i figured this would do it.
>
> thanks!
>
> z
>
> NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
>
> --------------------------------------
>
>
> New Alliance East - Mastering
>
> New Alliance East - Facebook
>
> X :::: B :::: S
>





Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-20 by Nick Zampiello

so i looked inside the sds 6 and there's a lot of modification going on...

i attached a picture of that section of board. and the scheme.

there's no R20 and R21 is routed to C14. but i don't see C14 on my scheme.

maybe it's the one behind IC6?

thanks in advance

z

NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------


New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook

X :::: B :::: S





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On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:13 AM, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:

ok cool, i was unclear as to what changing these would do. thanks!

z

NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------


New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook

X :::: B :::: S





On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:03 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:



Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the
level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the
trick.

----- Original Message -----
>From: Nick Zampiello
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question
>
>
>awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.
>
>
>I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it. than it could be slaved to anything really.
>
>
>z
>
>
>
>
>NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
>
>--------------------------------------
>
>
>New Alliance East - Mastering
>
>
>New Alliance East - Facebook
>
>
>X :::: B :::: S
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606
(tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even
though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and
trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than
just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with
cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right.
>
>My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in,
x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6
trigger in.
>
>This generally worked quite well and
even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.
>
>Cheers, vout
>
>--- In
Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...>
wrote:
>>
>> hello! so i am trying to
get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
>>
>> i see that it expects 15 volts. this
is a lot...
>>
>> but i am trying to lock it
to a garfield electronics mini doc. i figured this would do it.
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> z
>>
>> NEW ALLIANCE
EAST!!!!
>>
>>
--------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> New Alliance East - Mastering
>>
>> New Alliance East - Facebook
>>
>> X :::: B :::: S
>>
>
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-21 by Michael Buchner


Do you have the midi or non-midi version? The expansion boards are totally different. Check pin 2 of IC 6 and follow the track: R20 is located between Gate in and out jacks. R21 is near IC 6. One of the SDS6 here has R20 cut off and R21 lowered to 5K6.
Works with any trigger.
Best
Michael
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

so i looked inside the sds 6 and there's a lot of modification going on...

i attached a picture of that section of board. and the scheme.

there's no R20 and R21 is routed to C14. but i don't see C14 on my scheme.

maybe it's the one behind IC6?

thanks in advance

z

NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook

X :::: B :::: S

On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:13 AM, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:

ok cool, i was unclear as to what changing these would do. thanks!

z

NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook

X :::: B :::: S

On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:03 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:



Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the
level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the
trick.

----- Original Message -----
>From: Nick Zampiello
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question
>
>
>awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.
>
>
>I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it. than it could be slaved to anything really.
>
>
>z
>
>
>
>
>NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
>
>--------------------------------------
>
>
>New Alliance East - Mastering
>
>
>New Alliance East - Facebook
>
>
>X :::: B :::: S
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606
(tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even
though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and
trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than
just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with
cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right.
>
>My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in,
x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6
trigger in.
>
>This generally worked quite well and
even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.
>
>Cheers, vout
>
>--- In
Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...>
wrote:
>>
>> hello! so i am trying to
get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
>>
>> i see that it expects 15 volts. this
is a lot...
>>
>> but i am trying to lock it
to a garfield electronics mini doc. i figured this would do it.
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> z
>>
>> NEW ALLIANCE
EAST!!!!
>>
>>
--------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> New Alliance East - Mastering
>>
>> New Alliance East - Facebook
>>
>> X :::: B :::: S
>>
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-21 by Nick Zampiello

no midi, i wish!

did you see thew attached pics?

thanks,.

z
NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook
X :::: B :::: S


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On Monday, October 21, 2013 10:10 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:

Do you have the midi or non-midi version? The expansion boards are totally different. Check pin 2 of IC 6 and follow the track: R20 is located between Gate in and out jacks. R21 is near IC 6. One of the SDS6 here has R20 cut off and R21 lowered to 5K6.
Works with any trigger.
Best
Michael
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

so i looked inside the sds 6 and there's a lot of modification going on...

i attached a picture of that section of board. and the scheme.

there's no R20 and R21 is routed to C14. but i don't see C14 on my scheme.

maybe it's the one behind IC6?

thanks in advance

z

NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook

X :::: B :::: S

On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:13 AM, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:

ok cool, i was unclear as to what changing these would do. thanks!

z

NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook

X :::: B :::: S

On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:03 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:



Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the
level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the
trick.

----- Original Message -----
>From: Nick Zampiello
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question
>
>
>awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.
>
>
>I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it. than it could be slaved to anything really.
>
>
>z
>
>
>
>
>NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
>
>--------------------------------------
>
>
>New Alliance East - Mastering
>
>
>New Alliance East - Facebook
>
>
>X :::: B :::: S
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606
(tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even
though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and
trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than
just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with
cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right.
>
>My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in,
x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6
trigger in.
>
>This generally worked quite well and
even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.
>
>Cheers, vout
>
>--- In
Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...>
wrote:
>>
>> hello! so i am trying to
get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
>>
>> i see that it expects 15 volts. this
is a lot...
>>
>> but i am trying to lock it
to a garfield electronics mini doc. i figured this would do it.
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> z
>>
>> NEW ALLIANCE
EAST!!!!
>>
>>
--------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> New Alliance East - Mastering
>>
>> New Alliance East - Facebook
>>
>> X :::: B :::: S
>>
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-22 by jesper

The list isn't allowing attached files. You need to upload and send a
link. This is mainly for spam prevention...

--
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Nick Zampiello skrev 2013-10-21 18:03:
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> no midi, i wish!
>
> did you see thew attached pics?
>
> thanks,.
>
> z
> NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
>

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-22 by Michael Buchner


I cannot get the pics via the groups page. Send them to my email: buchnerelectronics@...
Michael
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

no midi, i wish!

did you see thew attached pics?

thanks,.

z
NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook
X :::: B :::: S




On Monday, October 21, 2013 10:10 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:

Do you have the midi or non-midi version? The expansion boards are totally different. Check pin 2 of IC 6 and follow the track: R20 is located between Gate in and out jacks. R21 is near IC 6. One of the SDS6 here has R20 cut off and R21 lowered to 5K6.
Works with any trigger.
Best
Michael
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

so i looked inside the sds 6 and there's a lot of modification going on...

i attached a picture of that section of board. and the scheme.

there's no R20 and R21 is routed to C14. but i don't see C14 on my scheme.

maybe it's the one behind IC6?

thanks in advance

z

NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook

X :::: B :::: S

On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:13 AM, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:

ok cool, i was unclear as to what changing these would do. thanks!

z

NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook

X :::: B :::: S

On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:03 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:



Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the
level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the
trick.

----- Original Message -----
>From: Nick Zampiello
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question
>
>
>awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.
>
>
>I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it. than it could be slaved to anything really.
>
>
>z
>
>
>
>
>NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
>
>--------------------------------------
>
>
>New Alliance East - Mastering
>
>
>New Alliance East - Facebook
>
>
>X :::: B :::: S
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606
(tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even
though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and
trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than
just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with
cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right.
>
>My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in,
x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6
trigger in.
>
>This generally worked quite well and
even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.
>
>Cheers, vout
>
>--- In
Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...>
wrote:
>>
>> hello! so i am trying to
get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
>>
>> i see that it expects 15 volts. this
is a lot...
>>
>> but i am trying to lock it
to a garfield electronics mini doc. i figured this would do it.
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> z
>>
>> NEW ALLIANCE
EAST!!!!
>>
>>
--------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> New Alliance East - Mastering
>>
>> New Alliance East - Facebook
>>
>> X :::: B :::: S
>>
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

2013-10-22 by Nick Zampiello

i put the pics in the yahoo simmons group files section


http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/NJpmUh__aw_5la30zTJoZC_aozf_D_hzrMAPunV1UVLF5-XwHah5IF2srAc_OSHHHjPaWb79Kf16g-aToTE0_CsUdxvwfLU9OJSw/SDS6%20Gate%20input%20pic.JPG

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/NJpmUq1ph6L5la300_5w5H9eriXy_arG0vaqmY758M5wZknNORB9Xc0WSQkrRCW0gnKpl_YxqKWe84kRBB15kiC_r9pRp1hEMqHA/SDS%206%20scheme.JPG

z


NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

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New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook
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On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:29 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:

I cannot get the pics via the groups page. Send them to my email: buchnerelectronics@...
Michael
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

no midi, i wish!

did you see thew attached pics?

thanks,.

z
NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!

--------------------------------------

New Alliance East - Mastering

New Alliance East - Facebook
X :::: B :::: S




On Monday, October 21, 2013 10:10 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:

Do you have the midi or non-midi version? The expansion boards are totally different. Check pin 2 of IC 6 and follow the track: R20 is located between Gate in and out jacks. R21 is near IC 6. One of the SDS6 here has R20 cut off and R21 lowered to 5K6.
Works with any trigger.
Best
Michael
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question

so i looked inside the sds 6 and there's a lot of modification going on...

i attached a picture of that section of board. and the scheme.

there's no R20 and R21 is routed to C14. but i don't see C14 on my scheme.

maybe it's the one behind IC6?

thanks in advance

z

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On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:13 AM, Nick Zampiello <newallianceeast@...> wrote:

ok cool, i was unclear as to what changing these would do. thanks!

z

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On Friday, October 18, 2013 11:03 AM, Michael Buchner <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:



Check R 21 and R 20 on the expansion board, the
level is set there. To rise R 20 value to 1M or simply cut it away should do the
trick.

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>From: Nick Zampiello
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 12:22 AM
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Simmons SDS 6 gate question
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>awesome thanks for the info. i was able to get it to sync if i ran the sequencer clock from the Garfield DR Click into the preamp of the 2600 for a little added gain before the SDS 6 input.
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>I was looking at the scheme and it wouldn't be simple to change the input of the SDS 6 so i might make a little box that just cranks the voltage / current a little before it. than it could be slaved to anything really.
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>On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:17 PM, "vout@..." <vout@...> wrote:
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>Hi,
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>I was able to sync the SDS6 to a TR606
(tom) trigger output, it seems to have enough juice to drive the SDS6 even
though the voltages are theoretically wrong. The SDS6 sync inputs (tape and
trigger) are very fussy, I think they need a bit of current drive rather than
just a certain voltage level. Always reminded me of 80's computers with
cassette loading where you spent ages trying to get the level just right.
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>My sync chain was DAW midi out -> x0xb0x midi in,
x0xb0x din sync out -> TR606 sync24 in, TR606 tom trigger out -> SDS6
trigger in.
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>This generally worked quite well and
even allowed me to apply swing to the SDS6 using the x0xb0x swing function.
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>Cheers, vout
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>> hello! so i am trying to
get a simmons sds 6 to chase a clock pulse and i can't get it to play...
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>> i see that it expects 15 volts. this
is a lot...
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>> but i am trying to lock it
to a garfield electronics mini doc. i figured this would do it.
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>> thanks!
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