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--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "pa21.t21@..." <pa21@...> wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
> I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.
>
> thx in advance
>
> pat
>

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "pa21.t21@..." <pa21@...> wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
> I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.
>
> thx in advance
>
> pat
>

>
> Kind of a wide range that I have seen on Ebay. Anywhere from $125.00 US
> to $*50.00 US. All depends on condition and how much someone is willing
> to pay for it really.
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>, "pa21.t21@..." <pa21@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi List,
> >
> > I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain
> go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.
> >
> > thx in advance
> >
> > pat
> >

>________________________________
> From: simmonssds7fan <ptmetcalf@...>
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013, 21:18
>Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price
>
>
>
>
>
>Kind of a wide range that I have seen on Ebay. Anywhere from $125.00 US to $*50.00 US. All depends on condition and how much someone is willing to pay for it really.
>
>--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "pa21.t21@..." <pa21@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.
>>
>> thx in advance
>>
>> pat
>>
>
>
>
>
>

>
> In Europe everything below 100 euros is a bargain (if it works that
> is!). Some dealers have pushed them up to 350 euros, but that's really
> hard to get from a sane person... ;)

> Sanity and Simmons drums... sounds like a contradiction :-P

>________________________________
> From: jesper <jesper@...>
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013, 22:09
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price
>
>
>
>
>superwolle70 skrev 2013-06-10 23:00:
>> Sanity and Simmons drums... sounds like a contradiction :-P
>
>:D
>
>--
>electronically yours, jesper - who just bought a Trixer
>
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--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...> wrote:
>
>
> Kind of a wide range that I have seen on Ebay. Anywhere from $125.00 US to $*50.00 US. All depends on condition and how much someone is willing to pay for it really.
>
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "pa21.t21@" <pa21@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi List,
> >
> > I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.
> >
> > thx in advance
> >
> > pat
> >
>

>________________________________
> From: simmonssds7fan <ptmetcalf@...>
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2013, 2:13
>Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price
>
>
>
>
>That sound read "$125.00 US to $850.00 US"....sorry about the typo...
>:p
>
>--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Kind of a wide range that I have seen on Ebay. Anywhere from $125.00 US to $*50.00 US. All depends on condition and how much someone is willing to pay for it really.
>>
>>
>> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "pa21.t21@" <pa21@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi List,
>> >
>> > I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.
>> >
>> > thx in advance
>> >
>> > pat
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>

> my first ebay bid, maybe 5 years ago I saw an SDS 3 for sale thought ooo
> might be nice to have a spare, it was around 250£ so I bid thought meh
> i'll spend a little more for what I bought mine for maybe ten years
> previously so I placed a bid of 450.. last day of auction arrived.. I
> learned about about snipe bidding that day and how out of touch I was
> with the current value of things.
> It sold for over 1k.. mine cost 50£ around 1996.

> my first ebay bid, maybe 5 years ago I saw an SDS 3 for sale thought ooo

> might be nice to have a spare, it was around 250£ so I bid thought meh

> i'll spend a little more for what I bought mine for maybe ten years

> previously so I placed a bid of 450.. last day of auction arrived.. I

> learned about about snipe bidding that day and how out of touch I was

> with the current value of things.

> It sold for over 1k.. mine cost 50£ around 1996.

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Jacquot.Patrice@... wrote:
>
> Fully agree Jesper,
>
> every SImmons isn't Gold. we can't expect a great price of every single model released.
> Not that simple. Otherwise buying & selling that brand could be a full time job in itself.
>
> ^^
>
>
>
>
> ----- Mail d'origine -----
> De: jesper <jesper@...>
> À: Simmons Drums <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> Envoyé: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:19:36 +0200 (CEST)
> Objet: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price
>
>
>
>
>
> pa21@... skrev 2013-06-10 23:22:
>
> > my first ebay bid, maybe 5 years ago I saw an SDS 3 for sale thought ooo
>
> > might be nice to have a spare, it was around 250£ so I bid thought meh
>
> > i'll spend a little more for what I bought mine for maybe ten years
>
> > previously so I placed a bid of 450.. last day of auction arrived.. I
>
> > learned about about snipe bidding that day and how out of touch I was
>
> > with the current value of things.
>
> > It sold for over 1k.. mine cost 50£ around 1996.
>
>
> SDS-III is a different breed. Circa 200 units made and first commercial
>
> product from Simmons. Stylish as hell, rare as hen's teeth and wanted
>
> like few other analogue drum brains.
>
>
> SDS-8 was a commercial success. Thousands were produced. It looked
>
> boring, is common and often the poor man's entry to the analogue drum world.
>
>
> Well, something like that anyway. :) I have owned three SDS-8's and sold
>
> every one. I have a SDS-III and it sure stays here since it's so bloody
>
> amazing!
>
>
> --
>
> electronically yours, jesper
>
>
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>

> I agree that EVERY Simmons isn't gold, but it seems that the most common
> model, the SDS-V is.

> Every one I find on ebay always seems to go for
> huge amounts of money, and this is usually JUST the brain, nevermind the
> pads! And yet the SDS-7, the most sophisticated, expensive, and uncommon
> one seems to not be worth nearly as much, sad to say.

> The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "superwolle70" <superwolle70@...> wrote:
>
>
> > The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)
>
> at least 2 of each
>

> The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> simmonssds7fan skrev 2013-06-11 16:35:
> > I agree that EVERY Simmons isn't gold, but it seems that the most common
> > model, the SDS-V is.
>
> Agree!
>
> > Every one I find on ebay always seems to go for
> > huge amounts of money, and this is usually JUST the brain, nevermind the
> > pads! And yet the SDS-7, the most sophisticated, expensive, and uncommon
> > one seems to not be worth nearly as much, sad to say.
>
> Well, the SDX is more sophisticated, but to answer the Q: The SDS-V is
> iconic and seldom breaks down. The SDS-7 sure is cool, but harder to
> program and a bitch when it comes to failure and service.
>
> The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)
>
> --
> electronically yours, jesper
>
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "superwolle70" <superwolle70@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re : Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price


>
>> The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)
>
> at least 2 of each

Second that !

I should never have sold my other SDS-7....ok 4 was a bit too much but 2 is
the optimal number.

WT

>
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----- Original Message -----

From: "superwolle70" <superwolle70@...>

To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:30 PM

Subject: Re : Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price


>

>> The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)

>

> at least 2 of each


Second that !


I should never have sold my other SDS-7....ok 4 was a bit too much but 2 is

the optimal number.


WT


>

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--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...> wrote:
>
> I'm finding that the SDS-7 is not as unreliable as many purport it to be. While one of mine was described as "not working" when I purchased it, everything was an easy fix and that one is now working 100%. Yes, it is a pain to program, but once you have it programmed to the way you want it, you are set for a while. Granted, I haven't gigged out with it yet......
>
> Sounds like the most reliable ones are the SDS-V and the SDS-8. I can tell you that the SDS-9 is a royal pain and even more unreliable than the SDS-7 is claimed to be. I'm still trying to get mine working properly! :p
>
> I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper for me in the end.....
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
> >
> > simmonssds7fan skrev 2013-06-11 16:35:
> > > I agree that EVERY Simmons isn't gold, but it seems that the most common
> > > model, the SDS-V is.
> >
> > Agree!
> >
> > > Every one I find on ebay always seems to go for
> > > huge amounts of money, and this is usually JUST the brain, nevermind the
> > > pads! And yet the SDS-7, the most sophisticated, expensive, and uncommon
> > > one seems to not be worth nearly as much, sad to say.
> >
> > Well, the SDX is more sophisticated, but to answer the Q: The SDS-V is
> > iconic and seldom breaks down. The SDS-7 sure is cool, but harder to
> > program and a bitch when it comes to failure and service.
> >
> > The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)
> >
> > --
> > electronically yours, jesper
> >
> > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> > www.electronic-obsession.se
> >
>

> SDS7... a bitch to program??? Hmmm... in my opinion, the programming is
> actually simple enough once you get used to the procedure. (Unless it's
> the tedious process of reprogramming EVERY patch as a result of memory
> loss..) I actually enjoy tweaking and discovering its many nuances. Some
> of the better patches I came across were the result of messing about
> with random values. The "bitch" with respect to the SDS7 is the lack of
> the Memory Cartridge availability. I would kill to find one of those,
> lol. I own 3 SDS7's (2 fully loaded working and 1 non working for
> spares) and they won't be going anywhere!! :-)
>
> As for reliable, when I bought my second SDS7 it was literally dead. The
> previous owner said it was working when he had it. Upon inspection,
> there was nothing wrong with it other than the the fact that it had been
> transported a great distance.. and as we know the older SDS7's were
> plagued with loss of memory and patch info due to the cards and boards
> moving about in their slots. This particular unit is a later version
> with the "locking" slots that had been introduced to alleviate the loss
> of data problem. Nonetheless, I simply removed all the cards and front
> panel assembly, replaced the battery, cleaned and reassembled the unit
> and it's been rock solid ever since. Mind you, it hasn't left the studio
> and is powered by conditioned A/C on a UPS. The gig is a much harsher
> environment and can destroy electronics if one isn't mindful of the
> mains and power sources. (Bad power claimed the life of my Ensoniq ESQ-1
> moments before a gig many years ago.. that was fun!) Hauling a UPS to
> the gig can be the difference between taking home a working unit versus
> one with a burned out PSU or worse.
>
> Errrrr.... sorry.. what was the question again? lol...
>
> Teknik1

> SDS7... a bitch to program??? Hmmm... in my opinion, the programming is

> actually simple enough once you get used to the procedure. (Unless it's

> the tedious process of reprogramming EVERY patch as a result of memory

> loss..) I actually enjoy tweaking and discovering its many nuances. Some

> of the better patches I came across were the result of messing about

> with random values. The "bitch" with respect to the SDS7 is the lack of

> the Memory Cartridge availability. I would kill to find one of those,

> lol. I own 3 SDS7's (2 fully loaded working and 1 non working for

> spares) and they won't be going anywhere!! :-)

>

> As for reliable, when I bought my second SDS7 it was literally dead. The

> previous owner said it was working when he had it. Upon inspection,

> there was nothing wrong with it other than the the fact that it had been

> transported a great distance.. and as we know the older SDS7's were

> plagued with loss of memory and patch info due to the cards and boards

> moving about in their slots. This particular unit is a later version

> with the "locking" slots that had been introduced to alleviate the loss

> of data problem. Nonetheless, I simply removed all the cards and front

> panel assembly, replaced the battery, cleaned and reassembled the unit

> and it's been rock solid ever since. Mind you, it hasn't left the studio

> and is powered by conditioned A/C on a UPS. The gig is a much harsher

> environment and can destroy electronics if one isn't mindful of the

> mains and power sources. (Bad power claimed the life of my Ensoniq ESQ-1

> moments before a gig many years ago.. that was fun!) Hauling a UPS to

> the gig can be the difference between taking home a working unit versus

> one with a burned out PSU or worse.

>

> Errrrr.... sorry.. what was the question again? lol...

>

> Teknik1

> I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently
>purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper for me
>in the end.....

> I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about selling it
> when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7 I
> realized I was going to need both of them :-P

----- Original Message -----
From: jesper
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price



Scott Gibbons skrev 2013-06-14 00:40:
> I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about selling it
> when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7 I
> realized I was going to need both of them :-P

You always need MOOOOOOOOORE gear! ;)

--
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--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Scott Gibbons <scott@...> wrote:
>
> > I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently
> >purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper for me
> >in the end.....
>
>
> Programming the SDS7 is not as fast as spinning the pots on an SDS8, but
> there are so many sounds that the 7 is capable of that the 8 can't touch.
> The 8 is completely analogue while the 7 is a hybrid. You can get close to
> the sound of the 8 with the analogue section of the 7, but not the other
> way around. Also, the analogue section of the SDS7 really does sound
> better than the SDS800 to my ears.
>
> On the other hand, you can do live tweaking on the SDS8 that would be
> impossible on the 7, or on the similar Pearl Drum-X, like this:
>
> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800-1
>
> I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about selling it
> when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7 I
> realized I was going to need both of them :-P
>
> all my best,
> - Scott
>
>
> ps - some more links to some SDS sounds I have on SoundCloud:
>
> Using only the analogue section of the SDS7:
> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/sds7
>
> Using the digital and analogue sections of the SDS7:
> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds7
>
> Using the Run Generator on the SDS800:
> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800
>

> I can attest that programming an SDS7 is not as fast as an SDS8, as it took me the better part of a day to re-program all of the 39 factory defined kits back into the memory of one of my SDS7s. Better sound? Well I guess that is subjective. They all have their strengths and weaknesses sonically. I also agree that programming a 7 can be tedious, but once you get the hang of it, it kind of becomes second nature, however, it is still time consuming.
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Scott Gibbons <scott@...> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently
>>> purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper for me
>>> in the end.....
>>
>>
>> Programming the SDS7 is not as fast as spinning the pots on an SDS8, but
>> there are so many sounds that the 7 is capable of that the 8 can't touch.
>> The 8 is completely analogue while the 7 is a hybrid. You can get close to
>> the sound of the 8 with the analogue section of the 7, but not the other
>> way around. Also, the analogue section of the SDS7 really does sound
>> better than the SDS800 to my ears.
>>
>> On the other hand, you can do live tweaking on the SDS8 that would be
>> impossible on the 7, or on the similar Pearl Drum-X, like this:
>>
>> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800-1
>>
>> I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about selling it
>> when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7 I
>> realized I was going to need both of them :-P
>>
>> all my best,
>> - Scott
>>
>>
>> ps - some more links to some SDS sounds I have on SoundCloud:
>>
>> Using only the analogue section of the SDS7:
>> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/sds7
>>
>> Using the digital and analogue sections of the SDS7:
>> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds7
>>
>> Using the Run Generator on the SDS800:
>> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, WT <waveterm@...> wrote:
>
> I'd be interested in those factorypresets.
>
> Can you upload them ?
>
> WT
>
> 14 jun 2013 kl. 15:46 skrev "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...>:
>
> > I can attest that programming an SDS7 is not as fast as an SDS8, as it took me the better part of a day to re-program all of the 39 factory defined kits back into the memory of one of my SDS7s. Better sound? Well I guess that is subjective. They all have their strengths and weaknesses sonically. I also agree that programming a 7 can be tedious, but once you get the hang of it, it kind of becomes second nature, however, it is still time consuming.
> >
> > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Scott Gibbons <scott@> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently
> >>> purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper for me
> >>> in the end.....
> >>
> >>
> >> Programming the SDS7 is not as fast as spinning the pots on an SDS8, but
> >> there are so many sounds that the 7 is capable of that the 8 can't touch.
> >> The 8 is completely analogue while the 7 is a hybrid. You can get close to
> >> the sound of the 8 with the analogue section of the 7, but not the other
> >> way around. Also, the analogue section of the SDS7 really does sound
> >> better than the SDS800 to my ears.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, you can do live tweaking on the SDS8 that would be
> >> impossible on the 7, or on the similar Pearl Drum-X, like this:
> >>
> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800-1
> >>
> >> I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about selling it
> >> when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7 I
> >> realized I was going to need both of them :-P
> >>
> >> all my best,
> >> - Scott
> >>
> >>
> >> ps - some more links to some SDS sounds I have on SoundCloud:
> >>
> >> Using only the analogue section of the SDS7:
> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/sds7
> >>
> >> Using the digital and analogue sections of the SDS7:
> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds7
> >>
> >> Using the Run Generator on the SDS800:
> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 7:06 PM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price


> There is a spreadsheet here on the group page under files. SDS-7
> Presets.xls I believe it is called.
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, WT <waveterm@...> wrote:
>>
>> I'd be interested in those factorypresets.
>>
>> Can you upload them ?
>>
>> WT
>>
>> 14 jun 2013 kl. 15:46 skrev "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...>:
>>
>> > I can attest that programming an SDS7 is not as fast as an SDS8, as it
>> > took me the better part of a day to re-program all of the 39 factory
>> > defined kits back into the memory of one of my SDS7s. Better sound?
>> > Well I guess that is subjective. They all have their strengths and
>> > weaknesses sonically. I also agree that programming a 7 can be tedious,
>> > but once you get the hang of it, it kind of becomes second nature,
>> > however, it is still time consuming.
>> >
>> > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Scott Gibbons <scott@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently
>> >>> purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper
>> >>> for me
>> >>> in the end.....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Programming the SDS7 is not as fast as spinning the pots on an SDS8,
>> >> but
>> >> there are so many sounds that the 7 is capable of that the 8 can't
>> >> touch.
>> >> The 8 is completely analogue while the 7 is a hybrid. You can get
>> >> close to
>> >> the sound of the 8 with the analogue section of the 7, but not the
>> >> other
>> >> way around. Also, the analogue section of the SDS7 really does sound
>> >> better than the SDS800 to my ears.
>> >>
>> >> On the other hand, you can do live tweaking on the SDS8 that would be
>> >> impossible on the 7, or on the similar Pearl Drum-X, like this:
>> >>
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800-1
>> >>
>> >> I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about
>> >> selling it
>> >> when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7
>> >> I
>> >> realized I was going to need both of them :-P
>> >>
>> >> all my best,
>> >> - Scott
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ps - some more links to some SDS sounds I have on SoundCloud:
>> >>
>> >> Using only the analogue section of the SDS7:
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/sds7
>> >>
>> >> Using the digital and analogue sections of the SDS7:
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds7
>> >>
>> >> Using the Run Generator on the SDS800:
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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>
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