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I am sure this has been covered before but since I am new I have a question
regarding cheating with Simmons' brains ...

On my small, inexpensive Roland TD3 drum module, I can take a Y-cable, plug
TWO different pads into it, plug into one jack and have the same sound come
out of both pads ... two pads working while using one trigger ... has
anyone ever tried this with a Simmons brain and does it work?

Thanks


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What "Simmons brains" are you talking about? Hopefully the vintage 80s ones... With those it cannot work because the inputs are all mono (except the snare input of the SDS9)

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, harvey bendover <cadiumcar@...> wrote:
>
> I am sure this has been covered before but since I am new I have a question
> regarding cheating with Simmons' brains ...
>
> On my small, inexpensive Roland TD3 drum module, I can take a Y-cable, plug
> TWO different pads into it, plug into one jack and have the same sound come
> out of both pads ... two pads working while using one trigger ... has
> anyone ever tried this with a Simmons brain and does it work?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

yes, vintage ... sds1000 in particular

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:02 AM, superwolle70 <superwolle70@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> What "Simmons brains" are you talking about? Hopefully the vintage 80s
> ones... With those it cannot work because the inputs are all mono (except
> the snare input of the SDS9)
>
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, harvey bendover wrote:
> >
> > I am sure this has been covered before but since I am new I have a
> question
> > regarding cheating with Simmons' brains ...
> >
> > On my small, inexpensive Roland TD3 drum module, I can take a Y-cable,
> plug
> > TWO different pads into it, plug into one jack and have the same sound
> come
> > out of both pads ... two pads working while using one trigger ... has
> > anyone ever tried this with a Simmons brain and does it work?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


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I think he only talks about a splitter, not a stereo cable (i e insert),
so yes, it works. You just send the trigger from different sources. The
pads are not powered and therefor there are no "active" components in them.
If two identical trigger signals arrive at the brain at the same time it
just ends up as one. If you however trigger with synthesizers etc you
can accidentally double the trigger level and damage the input (at least
in theory).
Side note: I have modified my Star Synare 1 with external triggers for
all the "pad areas" (12 in total). Since it's _one_ monophonic synth
behind all sound generation a double trigger combines the voltages of
the areas and the result is an even higher pitch than the two intended.
Having tuned them over an octave a C and a G# can result in something
odd like a very flat E2b. Weird and cool!

--
electronically yours, jesper

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Basic superwolle70 skrev 2013-03-01 16:02:

> What "Simmons brains" are you talking about? Hopefully the vintage 80s
> ones... With those it cannot work because the inputs are all mono
> (except the snare input of the SDS9)
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>, harvey bendover wrote:
> >
> > I am sure this has been covered before but since I am new I have a
> question
> > regarding cheating with Simmons' brains ...
> >
> > On my small, inexpensive Roland TD3 drum module, I can take a
> Y-cable, plug
> > TWO different pads into it, plug into one jack and have the same
> sound come
> > out of both pads ... two pads working while using one trigger ... has
> > anyone ever tried this with a Simmons brain and does it work?
> >
> > Thanks

yes, a splitter! i thought it would work - thanks

On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 8:42 AM, jesper <jesper@...>wrote:

> I think he only talks about a splitter, not a stereo cable (i e insert),
> so yes, it works. You just send the trigger from different sources. The
> pads are not powered and therefor there are no "active" components in them.
> If two identical trigger signals arrive at the brain at the same time it
> just ends up as one. If you however trigger with synthesizers etc you
> can accidentally double the trigger level and damage the input (at least
> in theory).
> Side note: I have modified my Star Synare 1 with external triggers for
> all the "pad areas" (12 in total). Since it's _one_ monophonic synth
> behind all sound generation a double trigger combines the voltages of
> the areas and the result is an even higher pitch than the two intended.
> Having tuned them over an octave a C and a G# can result in something
> odd like a very flat E2b. Weird and cool!
>
> --
> electronically yours, jesper
>
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
>
>
> Basic superwolle70 skrev 2013-03-01 16:02:
> > What "Simmons brains" are you talking about? Hopefully the vintage 80s
> > ones... With those it cannot work because the inputs are all mono
> > (except the snare input of the SDS9)
> >
> > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>, harvey bendover wrote:
> > >
> > > I am sure this has been covered before but since I am new I have a
> > question
> > > regarding cheating with Simmons' brains ...
> > >
> > > On my small, inexpensive Roland TD3 drum module, I can take a
> > Y-cable, plug
> > > TWO different pads into it, plug into one jack and have the same
> > sound come
> > > out of both pads ... two pads working while using one trigger ... has
> > > anyone ever tried this with a Simmons brain and does it work?
> > >
> > > Thanks
>
>
>
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I think Superwolle70 is thinking about using a stereo-to-dual mono
splitter, and dual zone pads/voices... That wouldn't work, just like he
says.

But I read your email differently... I understand that you want to use a
mono-to-dual mono splitter to route two pads to the same trigger input. So
you could have a couple different pads triggering the same TOM input on an
SDS800 and use the Run Generator to give the rightful look & sound of
doing tom runs :-) Cool! That should work just fine!

Just be sure that the splitter you're buying is mono, not stereo.

all my best,
- Scott