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adam:
> Hi, everybody! in my SDS7 when I use selector pad to change the
> programs, looks like switch no. 7 and 16 doesn't work ( I'ts not
> changing the program number in SDS7). I plug in another selector pad
> and it's the same... also when I do it using MTM buttons-the same...
> any ideas? have a nice day, Adam Lewandowski

I'm not sure how the selector cable is wired in the SDS-7, but if it's plain
triggers in that cord, one might be broken affecting 7 and 16... Have you
tried a different cable?

electronically yours, jesper
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--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@e...> wrote:
> adam:
> > Hi, everybody! in my SDS7 when I use selector pad to change the
> > programs, looks like switch no. 7 and 16 doesn't work ( I'ts not
> > changing the program number in SDS7). I plug in another selector pad
> > and it's the same... also when I do it using MTM buttons-the same...
> > any ideas? have a nice day, Adam Lewandowski
> 
> I'm not sure how the selector cable is wired in the SDS-7, but if
it's plain
> triggers in that cord, one might be broken affecting 7 and 16...
Have you
> tried a different cable?
> 
> electronically yours, jesper
I inserted 2 different selector pads                                 
                                                                     
                    with cables  and a cable connecting MTM and SDS7,
which I've tested so the cables are ok ... Inside the SDS7 there is a
 connector soldered directly  on the board...

adam with an update:
> I inserted 2 different selector pads                                 
>                                                                      
>                     with cables  and a cable connecting MTM and SDS7,
> which I've tested so the cables are ok ... Inside the SDS7 there is a
>  connector soldered directly  on the board...                        

short circuit inside the selector pad then?

electronically yours, jesper - looking for answers
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> short circuit inside the selector pad then?
> 
> electronically yours, jesper - looking for answers
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short cicuit in 2 selector pads?... I think there must be something in
simmons brain but what?

> > short circuit inside the selector pad then?
> >
> > electronically yours, jesper - looking for answers

adam:
> short cicuit in 2 selector pads?... I think there must be something in
> simmons brain but what?

OK, I misunderstood... sorry...

2 different pads and 2 different cables tested - right? Do you have a volt
meter so you can check for short circuits?

electronically yours, jesper
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> short circuit inside the selector pad then?
> 
> electronically yours, jesper - looking for answers
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now I made connection: selector pad into MTM sel. pad input,then from
MTM selector out  by the cable to theSDS7 sel. pad input. Pressing
switches in selector pad from 1 to 16 change patch numbers in MTM and
SDS7 from 1 to 16 exept for the SDS7 which is not reacting when I
press switch no. 7 and 16...sound  complicated...but I'm polish and
even in my language it's not easy... I'm sure there must be something
wrong with SDS7...HELP!!!

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> OK, I misunderstood... sorry...
> 
> 2 different pads and 2 different cables tested - right? Do you have
a volt
> meter so you can check for short circuits?
> 
> electronically yours, jesper
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yes, I have a volt meter, ohm meter etc.

adam:
> yes, I have a volt meter, ohm meter etc.

With the SDS-7 powered and a selector cable in place, can you check if you
get any weird voltages on different pins... and with power off, check for
short circuits between pins...

These are just guesses since I don't own a SDS-7, but it sounds like there
are stuff happening on the pins involving program 7 and 16 that shouldn't
happen...

Lasse, any inputs on the issue?

electronically yours, jesper
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jesper@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] SDS7 problem


> adam:
> > yes, I have a volt meter, ohm meter etc.
>
> With the SDS-7 powered and a selector cable in place, can you check if you
> get any weird voltages on different pins... and with power off, check for
> short circuits between pins...
>
> These are just guesses since I don't own a SDS-7, but it sounds like there
> are stuff happening on the pins involving program 7 and 16 that shouldn't
> happen...
>
> Lasse, any inputs on the issue?

I don\ufffdt have a selector pad but are you sure its not a programming issue ?
If I recall correctly, you can rearrange the order in which the SDS-7
respond to pad selections.

Wait, I\ufffdll go out to the Studio to fetch the manuals ( bloody
rain.........).........

I\ufffdll be back

LJ

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----- Original Message ----- 

From: <jesper@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] SDS7 problem


> adam:
> > yes, I have a volt meter, ohm meter etc.
>
> With the SDS-7 powered and a selector cable in place, can you check if you
> get any weird voltages on different pins... and with power off, check for
> short circuits between pins...
>
> These are just guesses since I don't own a SDS-7, but it sounds like there
> are stuff happening on the pins involving program 7 and 16 that shouldn't
> happen...
>
> Lasse, any inputs on the issue?

Yes, you can rearrange the order in the SDS-7.

Press pad 4 = patch 39.
Press pad 9 = patch 22

and so on....

As for the MTM, it will always select the same numbered patch as the pad you
press. I.e. press pad 1 = MTM patch 1. Press pad 5 = MTM patch 5.

Try to reprogram the order in which the SDS assign programs to selector
pads.

Do you have the manual ?

LJ

http://hem.spray.se/ppgwave/studiopics.html

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> As for the MTM, it will always select the same numbered patch as the
pad you
> press. I.e. press pad 1 = MTM patch 1. Press pad 5 = MTM patch 5.
> 
> Try to reprogram the order in which the SDS assign programs to selector
> pads.
> 
> Do you have the manual ?
> 
> LJ
> 
> http://hem.spray.se/ppgwave/studiopics.html

Yes I have the manual and I know about assigning programs. What I did,
I programmed once again in SDS7 assigment that selector pad 1=program
1 in SDS7, 2=2 etc. up to pad 16 . Anyway It always been like that in
my SDS7... As I wrote earlier today when changing patch number in MTM,
SDS7 is not responding to patch 7 and 13... the only way I can change
the numbers in SDS7 is to use sds7 rotary knob... Than you guys for
help anyway, tommorrow I'll try with this volt meter...

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Lewandowski" <adam2@o...>
wrote:
You know guys, my set up is: SDS7, SPM 8:2 mixer, MTM, BOSS DR770 drum
machine and YAMAHA SPX 50D reverb. Everything is connected together
via MIDI so one press of selector pad changes everything... Playing
live there is no better way to do it fast...