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Hi list,

(you get to hear it first...)

now it's up and running again, my spare SDS-IV. It's been serviced and
I've manufactured a new trigger cable and added new knobs (SDS-V style)
since many of the originals were broken or lost. Some internal problems
have been fixed and everything is cleaned and tested. Comes complete
with drum brain (including that vicious Moog-styled filter), the
original twin pads, trigger cable and power cord.

There are scratches and marks 'cause this baby has seen the road. But
it's fully functional and still looking great. The pads have the
original Premier skins and the manufacturing label is undamaged and
bears the serial (4)174 which would indicate it's among the last 30 or so...

Feel free to bitch about the price, but I think it's reasonable because
of rarity and I ask 6000 SEK.

Here's the unit in question at work. triggering from a sequencer and
yours truely fiddling around with the settings to give an idea about the
sound range.
http://www.electronic-obsession.se/studio/simmonssounds/sds4.mp3

Remember that it's a mp3 and that computer speakers won't give this
vicious little sister of the SDS-III any justice. And yes... I can take
a few shots for those wanting to see before deciding. :)

mail offlist,
--
electronically yours, jesper

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www.electronic-obsession.se

nice demo jasper, you know i like demos of very unusual stuff. ;=)


interesting, i find som zaps do sound a little bit like my old juno-106 when i try to make zaps there, glassy thing, not as those hard right in yer chest minimoog or pro one zaps who genereates these sounds pefectly.'

do any you folks feel similar ?


thanx!

/k



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Från: jesper <jesper@...>
Till: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Skickat: måndag, 19 december 2011 23:38
Ämne: [Simmons Drums] FS: MusicAid SDS-IV



Hi list,

(you get to hear it first...)

now it's up and running again, my spare SDS-IV. It's been serviced and
I've manufactured a new trigger cable and added new knobs (SDS-V style)
since many of the originals were broken or lost. Some internal problems
have been fixed and everything is cleaned and tested. Comes complete
with drum brain (including that vicious Moog-styled filter), the
original twin pads, trigger cable and power cord.

There are scratches and marks 'cause this baby has seen the road. But
it's fully functional and still looking great. The pads have the
original Premier skins and the manufacturing label is undamaged and
bears the serial (4)174 which would indicate it's among the last 30 or so...

Feel free to bitch about the price, but I think it's reasonable because
of rarity and I ask 6000 SEK.

Here's the unit in question at work. triggering from a sequencer and
yours truely fiddling around with the settings to give an idea about the
sound range.
http://www.electronic-obsession.se/studio/simmonssounds/sds4.mp3

Remember that it's a mp3 and that computer speakers won't give this
vicious little sister of the SDS-III any justice. And yes... I can take
a few shots for those wanting to see before deciding. :)

mail offlist,
--
electronically yours, jesper

- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se



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KW skrev 2011-12-21 05:26:

> nice demo jasper, you know i like demos of very unusual stuff. ;=)
>
> interesting, i find som zaps do sound a little bit like my old juno-106
> when i try to make zaps there, glassy thing, not as those hard right in
> yer chest minimoog or pro one zaps who genereates these sounds pefectly.'
>
> do any you folks feel similar ?

The lack of "oumph!" is due to the fact that this is fed straight into a
lousy AD-converter in an old laptop. If you, in addition to this, listen
through crappy PC-speakers it gets even worse.

In a decent studio environment it sure can give you bass below hearing
range if you like. Once I almost turned the cones of the speakers inside
out when thinking the synth was broken. It resulted in a poorly
tightened rack blind coming loose and smashing a glass of wine all over
my mixer. :S

Try to do that with something oldschool digital... :D

--
electronically yours, jesper

- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

i'm sure the bass is heavy on this sds4. i forgot to tell you i ment the high frequencies. sometimes the sds4 sounds near a Juno106.

for an example between 00'20'' - 00'22'' the high pitched attack of the bass reacts very similar to the Juno106. i hope you understand better now what i meat with "glassy"

i'm sure it has nothing to do with soundcard quantisation of high frequencies on your laptop, it should manage these events ;=)

cheers....

/k



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Från: jesper <jesper@...>
Till: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Skickat: onsdag, 21 december 2011 10:06
Ämne: Re: [Simmons Drums] FS: MusicAid SDS-IV



KW skrev 2011-12-21 05:26:

> nice demo jasper, you know i like demos of very unusual stuff. ;=)
>
> interesting, i find som zaps do sound a little bit like my old juno-106
> when i try to make zaps there, glassy thing, not as those hard right in
> yer chest minimoog or pro one zaps who genereates these sounds pefectly.'
>
> do any you folks feel similar ?

The lack of "oumph!" is due to the fact that this is fed straight into a
lousy AD-converter in an old laptop. If you, in addition to this, listen
through crappy PC-speakers it gets even worse.

In a decent studio environment it sure can give you bass below hearing
range if you like. Once I almost turned the cones of the speakers inside
out when thinking the synth was broken. It resulted in a poorly
tightened rack blind coming loose and smashing a glass of wine all over
my mixer. :S

Try to do that with something oldschool digital... :D

--
electronically yours, jesper

- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se



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KW skrev 2011-12-21 13:47:

> i'm sure the bass is heavy on this sds4. i forgot to tell you i ment the
> high frequencies. sometimes the sds4 sounds near a Juno106.
>
> for an example between 00'20'' - 00'22'' the high pitched attack of the
> bass reacts very similar to the Juno106. i hope you understand better
> now what i meat with "glassy"
>
> i'm sure it has nothing to do with soundcard quantisation of high
> frequencies on your laptop, it should manage these events ;=)
>
> cheers....

OK, then I follow. Since you can choose sinewave as waveform I guess
that is to blame. With very few overtones you often get "glassy"
results. It's almost like a self oscillating filter.

106 on the other hand, is not one of my dream synths. :)

--
electronically yours, jesper

- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

I think the sinewave of the sds3 and sds4 is created with self oscilating
transistorladder (moog) vcf.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: jesper <jesper@...>
Date: Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] FS: MusicAid SDS-IV
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com


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KW skrev 2011-12-21 13:47:

> i'm sure the bass is heavy on this sds4. i forgot to tell you i ment the
> high frequencies. sometimes the sds4 sounds near a Juno106.
>
> for an example between 00'20'' - 00'22'' the high pitched attack of the
> bass reacts very similar to the Juno106. i hope you understand better
> now what i meat with "glassy"
>
> i'm sure it has nothing to do with soundcard quantisation of high
> frequencies on your laptop, it should manage these events ;=)
>
> cheers....

OK, then I follow. Since you can choose sinewave as waveform I guess
that is to blame. With very few overtones you often get "glassy"
results. It's almost like a self oscillating filter.

106 on the other hand, is not one of my dream synths. :)


--
electronically yours, jesper

- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se





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Music at: http://www.mono-poly.nl


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I wish i had the cash to buy it from you.
Wanna swap it for some cool outboard?

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Dennis Verschoor <modular@...> wrote:

> I think the sinewave of the sds3 and sds4 is created with self oscilating
> transistorladder (moog) vcf.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: jesper <jesper@...>
> Date: Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] FS: MusicAid SDS-IV
> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> **
>
>
> KW skrev 2011-12-21 13:47:
>
> > i'm sure the bass is heavy on this sds4. i forgot to tell you i ment the
> > high frequencies. sometimes the sds4 sounds near a Juno106.
> >
> > for an example between 00'20'' - 00'22'' the high pitched attack of the
> > bass reacts very similar to the Juno106. i hope you understand better
> > now what i meat with "glassy"
> >
> > i'm sure it has nothing to do with soundcard quantisation of high
> > frequencies on your laptop, it should manage these events ;=)
> >
> > cheers....
>
> OK, then I follow. Since you can choose sinewave as waveform I guess
> that is to blame. With very few overtones you often get "glassy"
> results. It's almost like a self oscillating filter.
>
> 106 on the other hand, is not one of my dream synths. :)
>
>
> --
> electronically yours, jesper
>
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Music at: http://www.mono-poly.nl
>



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Music at: http://www.mono-poly.nl


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Dennis Verschoor skrev 2011-12-21 14:03:

> I think the sinewave of the sds3 and sds4 is created with self oscilating
> transistorladder (moog) vcf.

Could be, I haven't dug into that part of the schematics. But glassy
sure is a good description.

Regarding trades - mail offlist and we'll talk.

--
electronically yours, jesper

- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se