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Hi!

I've found a MTM at the right price, but before buying it... this is what I
want it to do - will it?!

I have incoming midi data that I want to transfer to trigs for my SDS-V and
SDS-2. Does the MTM convert different velocities to voltages and thereby
making the SDS-V velocity sensitive?

Any info appreciated and if quick - the better!

electronically yours, jesper
www.electronic-obsession.se
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--- jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
"I've found a MTM at the right price, but before buying it... this is
what I want it to do - will it?!
 
"I have incoming midi data that I want to transfer to trigs for my
SDS-V and SDS-2. Does the MTM convert different velocities to voltages
and thereby making the SDS-V velocity sensitive?"

I though MTM was their MIDI mixer and the only thing MIDI about it was
the ability to change programs of mixer settings.  I bought one when
they first came out and it died on me after a couple months.  I took it
to be repaired and haven't seen it since.  After months and months of
asking about it, I forgot about it and when I finally, after a few
years asked about it again and was told it's "probably" long gone. 
Needless to say I no longer deal at ALL with Medley Music in Bryn Mawr,
PA, USA.  I took a keyboard there once for a battery change and had it
returned with a knob missing that was there when I brought it in.

Michael

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hi jesper et al......
i have a mtm manual around here somewhere i'll dig it out
it was one of those products way ahead of it's time and very complicated and clunky for what it was supoosed to do
(goes up stairs for manual)
according to the diagrams for setting up you should be able to trigger a sds 5
remember back the the sds v was not that old and not thought of as legecy product
what i can't work out from looking at the manual is if you'd get velocity sensitive output although i suspect you would as it goes in to great detail about threshold out puts and dynamics
what the hell if you have the ££$$ just buy it anyway then you know it's in safe hands..................
cheers
dp

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Perez 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] OK dudes... MTM info



  --- jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
  "I've found a MTM at the right price, but before buying it... this is
  what I want it to do - will it?!

  "I have incoming midi data that I want to transfer to trigs for my
  SDS-V and SDS-2. Does the MTM convert different velocities to voltages
  and thereby making the SDS-V velocity sensitive?"

  I though MTM was their MIDI mixer and the only thing MIDI about it was
  the ability to change programs of mixer settings.  I bought one when
  they first came out and it died on me after a couple months.  I took it
  to be repaired and haven't seen it since.  After months and months of
  asking about it, I forgot about it and when I finally, after a few
  years asked about it again and was told it's "probably" long gone. 
  Needless to say I no longer deal at ALL with Medley Music in Bryn Mawr,
  PA, USA.  I took a keyboard there once for a battery change and had it
  returned with a knob missing that was there when I brought it in.

  Michael

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--- jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
"I've found a MTM at the right price, but before buying it... this is
what I want it to do - will it?!
 
"I have incoming midi data that I want to transfer to trigs for my
SDS-V and SDS-2. Does the MTM convert different velocities to
voltages and thereby making the SDS-V velocity sensitive?"

I though MTM was their MIDI mixer and the only thing MIDI about it
was the ability to change programs of mixer settings.  I bought one
when
they first came out and it died on me after a couple months.  I took
it to be repaired and haven't seen it since.  After months and months
of
asking about it, I forgot about it and when I finally, after a few
years asked about it again and was told it's "probably" long gone. 
Needless to say I no longer deal at ALL with Medley Music in Bryn
Mawr, PA, USA.  I took a keyboard there once for a battery change and
had it returned with a knob missing that was there when I brought it
in.

Michael

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--- jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
"I've found a MTM at the right price, but before buying it... this is
what I want it to do - will it?!
 
"I have incoming midi data that I want to transfer to trigs for my
SDS-V and SDS-2. Does the MTM convert different velocities to voltages
and thereby making the SDS-V velocity sensitive?"

I though MTM was their MIDI mixer and the only thing MIDI about it was
the ability to change programs of mixer settings.  I bought one when
they first came out and it died on me after a couple months.  I took it
to be repaired and haven't seen it since.  After months and months of
asking about it, I forgot about it and when I finally, after a few
years asked about it again and was told it's "probably" long gone. 
Needless to say I no longer deal at ALL with Medley Music in Bryn Mawr,
PA, USA.  I took a keyboard there once for a battery change and had it
returned with a knob missing that was there when I brought it in.

Michael


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david:
> according to the diagrams for setting up you should be able to trigger a
sds 5

I have the manual too, and that was my interpretation too...

> remember back the the sds v was not that old and not thought of as legecy
product
what i can't work out from looking at the manual is if you'd get velocity
sensitive output although i suspect you would as it goes in to great detail
about threshold out puts and dynamics

Yes, but it's a bunch of talk and no specific examples. The MTM is obviously
designed for drummers.

> what the hell if you have the \ufffd\ufffd$$ just buy it anyway then you know it's
in safe hands..................

Well, yes, but I just bought an SDS-7 from Graham here on the list (though
through Ebay, I need the total Graham!) and when that arrives along with two
analogue effects I've bought from a friend my rack is FULL!

So, I don't feel like constructing a new rack to fit one unit I'm not 100%
sure is doing what I want it to do!

electronically yours, jesper
www.electronic-obsession.se
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Polyfoni \ufffdr \ufffdverskattat

The MTM does exactly what you are hoping it does.  I use two MTM's 
(one for my SDSV and the other for an SDS7) and they work 
wonderfully.  

Via Midi the SDSV will react just as if you were triggering it from a 
pad, velocity changes and all - so does the SDS7.  I trigger the 
brains in a variety of ways via the MTM.  I use a MidiKat to 
incorporate the Simmons stuff along with other samplers and sound 
modules, but also trigger them from my keyboard and my sequencer
(Sonar). 

Hope this helps!  

Lance