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introducing myself.....

introducing myself.....

2010-01-10 by hungry_ghostie

Hi There,

Al from London....

I just bought a simmons sdsv brain, and thought I'd join up here.

I triggered each cannel via an old synth to test it - seems pretty much working & sounds amazing!  Came with Kick, snare & 4 x tom modules.

Only issue is that four of the modules seem stuck on the factory preset.  Perhaps the buttons have given up?!  I was wondering if this is a common problem?

My housemate has some roland V-drums - so hopefully I'll be able to trigger it properly using the roland pads...About to start searching through messages regarding this!  

All the best

Al

Re: [Simmons Drums] introducing myself.....

2010-01-10 by jesper

hungry_ghostie skrev:
> Hi There,
> Al from London....
> I just bought a simmons sdsv brain, and thought I'd join up here.

Sounds like a splendid idea.

> I triggered each cannel via an old synth to test it - seems pretty much 
> working & sounds amazing! Came with Kick, snare & 4 x tom modules.

One extra tom compared to the standard setup. Always good to fill the 
boring blanks. :)

> Only issue is that four of the modules seem stuck on the factory preset. 
> Perhaps the buttons have given up?! I was wondering if this is a common 
> problem?

Check the archives, but as I recall there were quite recently 
discussions regarding this. I seem to remember that it was the IC 
associated with the switches, but I can't promise my brain is with me on 
that one. I semi-payed attention 'cause my hihat module is have similar 
ideas though it works after having been switched on a while.

> My housemate has some roland V-drums - so hopefully I'll be able to 
> trigger it properly using the roland pads...About to start searching 
> through messages regarding this!

"Triggering properly" should mean original hexaheads. :P But if you mean 
by hitting pads I think that should work well if you just search for the 
correct level settings and the odd XLR-solderings of the SDS-V.

> All the best
> Al

Once again, welcome to the list!

-- 
electronically yours, jesper

- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

Re: introducing myself.....

2010-01-10 by hungry_ghostie

Thanks very much Jesper,

Glad to be on the list!

ATB,

Al

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
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> hungry_ghostie skrev:
> > Hi There,
> > Al from London....
> > I just bought a simmons sdsv brain, and thought I'd join up here.
> 
> Sounds like a splendid idea.
> 
> > I triggered each cannel via an old synth to test it - seems pretty much 
> > working & sounds amazing! Came with Kick, snare & 4 x tom modules.
> 
> One extra tom compared to the standard setup. Always good to fill the 
> boring blanks. :)
> 
> > Only issue is that four of the modules seem stuck on the factory preset. 
> > Perhaps the buttons have given up?! I was wondering if this is a common 
> > problem?
> 
> Check the archives, but as I recall there were quite recently 
> discussions regarding this. I seem to remember that it was the IC 
> associated with the switches, but I can't promise my brain is with me on 
> that one. I semi-payed attention 'cause my hihat module is have similar 
> ideas though it works after having been switched on a while.
> 
> > My housemate has some roland V-drums - so hopefully I'll be able to 
> > trigger it properly using the roland pads...About to start searching 
> > through messages regarding this!
> 
> "Triggering properly" should mean original hexaheads. :P But if you mean 
> by hitting pads I think that should work well if you just search for the 
> correct level settings and the odd XLR-solderings of the SDS-V.
> 
> > All the best
> > Al
> 
> Once again, welcome to the list!
> 
> -- 
> electronically yours, jesper
> 
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
>

Re: introducing myself.....

2010-01-12 by hungry_ghostie

Thanks - I found that post you mentioned -  Also, after reading your reply I left the drum brain on for several hours , and the Kick module switches started to work eventually - sounds similar to your hi hat!

Looks like I need some new IC's and a bunch of switches for the remaining modules.

Al


--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "hungry_ghostie" <hungry_ghostie@...> wrote:
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>
> Thanks very much Jesper,
> 
> Glad to be on the list!
> 
> ATB,
> 
> Al
> 
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
> >
> > hungry_ghostie skrev:
> > > Hi There,
> > > Al from London....
> > > I just bought a simmons sdsv brain, and thought I'd join up here.
> > 
> > Sounds like a splendid idea.
> > 
> > > I triggered each cannel via an old synth to test it - seems pretty much 
> > > working & sounds amazing! Came with Kick, snare & 4 x tom modules.
> > 
> > One extra tom compared to the standard setup. Always good to fill the 
> > boring blanks. :)
> > 
> > > Only issue is that four of the modules seem stuck on the factory preset. 
> > > Perhaps the buttons have given up?! I was wondering if this is a common 
> > > problem?
> > 
> > Check the archives, but as I recall there were quite recently 
> > discussions regarding this. I seem to remember that it was the IC 
> > associated with the switches, but I can't promise my brain is with me on 
> > that one. I semi-payed attention 'cause my hihat module is have similar 
> > ideas though it works after having been switched on a while.
> > 
> > > My housemate has some roland V-drums - so hopefully I'll be able to 
> > > trigger it properly using the roland pads...About to start searching 
> > > through messages regarding this!
> > 
> > "Triggering properly" should mean original hexaheads. :P But if you mean 
> > by hitting pads I think that should work well if you just search for the 
> > correct level settings and the odd XLR-solderings of the SDS-V.
> > 
> > > All the best
> > > Al
> > 
> > Once again, welcome to the list!
> > 
> > -- 
> > electronically yours, jesper
> > 
> > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> > www.electronic-obsession.se
> >
>

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: introducing myself.....

2010-01-13 by jesper

hungry_ghostie skrev:
> Thanks - I found that post you mentioned - Also, after reading your 
> reply I left the drum brain on for several hours , and the Kick module 
> switches started to work eventually - sounds similar to your hi hat!
> 
> Looks like I need some new IC's and a bunch of switches for the 
> remaining modules.

I've planned to just resolder a few joints to start with. Often the heat 
of the machine slightly expands parts etc. This can 'cause such 
behaviour too...

-- 
electronically yours, jesper

- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

Re: introducing myself.....

2010-01-13 by the_green_dome

Hi

I had exactly this problem.  Took it to my local vintage electronics friend.  I assumed it was a switch problem, but this didn't seem to be the case.  

There was some issue with voltage building up on the power buss which runs through the back of the unit.  My friend thought it was somehow related to the input for the hihat pedal, and built a simple bypass to fool the device into thinking the pedal is present - and this seemed to fix the issue - but only for the Tom modules!  

Bass and Snare still suffer from the same issue - but very inconsistently.  Sometimes I switch on from cold and they are fine.  Other times I switch on and have to wait 15 - 20 minutes before I can start selecting other modules.

Strange!

Aaron

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "hungry_ghostie" <hungry_ghostie@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi There,
> 
> Al from London....
> 
> I just bought a simmons sdsv brain, and thought I'd join up here.
> 
> I triggered each cannel via an old synth to test it - seems pretty much working & sounds amazing!  Came with Kick, snare & 4 x tom modules.
> 
> Only issue is that four of the modules seem stuck on the factory preset.  Perhaps the buttons have given up?!  I was wondering if this is a common problem?
> 
> My housemate has some roland V-drums - so hopefully I'll be able to trigger it properly using the roland pads...About to start searching through messages regarding this!  
> 
> All the best
> 
> Al
>

Re: introducing myself.....

2010-01-13 by Chris

Hi Al,

I'm in London as well. Where did you get your SDSV? Ebay or somewhere local? I don't know anywhere that trades in that kind of thing and I frequent Denmark St quite a bit. I only ask because I want to lay my hands on one as well.

Cheers

Chris

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "hungry_ghostie" <hungry_ghostie@...> wrote:
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>
> Thanks - I found that post you mentioned -  Also, after reading your reply I left the drum brain on for several hours , and the Kick module switches started to work eventually - sounds similar to your hi hat!
> 
> Looks like I need some new IC's and a bunch of switches for the remaining modules.
> 
> Al
> 
> 
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "hungry_ghostie" <hungry_ghostie@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks very much Jesper,
> > 
> > Glad to be on the list!
> > 
> > ATB,
> > 
> > Al
> > 
> > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
> > >
> > > hungry_ghostie skrev:
> > > > Hi There,
> > > > Al from London....
> > > > I just bought a simmons sdsv brain, and thought I'd join up here.
> > > 
> > > Sounds like a splendid idea.
> > > 
> > > > I triggered each cannel via an old synth to test it - seems pretty much 
> > > > working & sounds amazing! Came with Kick, snare & 4 x tom modules.
> > > 
> > > One extra tom compared to the standard setup. Always good to fill the 
> > > boring blanks. :)
> > > 
> > > > Only issue is that four of the modules seem stuck on the factory preset. 
> > > > Perhaps the buttons have given up?! I was wondering if this is a common 
> > > > problem?
> > > 
> > > Check the archives, but as I recall there were quite recently 
> > > discussions regarding this. I seem to remember that it was the IC 
> > > associated with the switches, but I can't promise my brain is with me on 
> > > that one. I semi-payed attention 'cause my hihat module is have similar 
> > > ideas though it works after having been switched on a while.
> > > 
> > > > My housemate has some roland V-drums - so hopefully I'll be able to 
> > > > trigger it properly using the roland pads...About to start searching 
> > > > through messages regarding this!
> > > 
> > > "Triggering properly" should mean original hexaheads. :P But if you mean 
> > > by hitting pads I think that should work well if you just search for the 
> > > correct level settings and the odd XLR-solderings of the SDS-V.
> > > 
> > > > All the best
> > > > Al
> > > 
> > > Once again, welcome to the list!
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > electronically yours, jesper
> > > 
> > > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> > > www.electronic-obsession.se
> > >
> >
>

Re: introducing myself.....

2010-01-13 by hungry_ghostie

Hi Chris

I was very fortunate - I responded to an ad here: http://www.preloved.co.uk/  regarding a different drum machine, and the guy said he had happened to have a simmons brain for sale too.

I rarely see good 'vintage' stuff in shops in central london.  

http://www.musicmanreading.co.uk/equipment.htm#dm have some nice (well priced) stuff crop up from time to time, worth a look every now and again. 

ATB

Al





--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <gushi1@...> wrote:
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>
> 
> 
> Hi Al,
> 
> I'm in London as well. Where did you get your SDSV? Ebay or somewhere local? I don't know anywhere that trades in that kind of thing and I frequent Denmark St quite a bit. I only ask because I want to lay my hands on one as well.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Chris
> 
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "hungry_ghostie" <hungry_ghostie@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks - I found that post you mentioned -  Also, after reading your reply I left the drum brain on for several hours , and the Kick module switches started to work eventually - sounds similar to your hi hat!
> > 
> > Looks like I need some new IC's and a bunch of switches for the remaining modules.
> > 
> > Al
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "hungry_ghostie" <hungry_ghostie@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks very much Jesper,
> > > 
> > > Glad to be on the list!
> > > 
> > > ATB,
> > > 
> > > Al
> > > 
> > > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hungry_ghostie skrev:
> > > > > Hi There,
> > > > > Al from London....
> > > > > I just bought a simmons sdsv brain, and thought I'd join up here.
> > > > 
> > > > Sounds like a splendid idea.
> > > > 
> > > > > I triggered each cannel via an old synth to test it - seems pretty much 
> > > > > working & sounds amazing! Came with Kick, snare & 4 x tom modules.
> > > > 
> > > > One extra tom compared to the standard setup. Always good to fill the 
> > > > boring blanks. :)
> > > > 
> > > > > Only issue is that four of the modules seem stuck on the factory preset. 
> > > > > Perhaps the buttons have given up?! I was wondering if this is a common 
> > > > > problem?
> > > > 
> > > > Check the archives, but as I recall there were quite recently 
> > > > discussions regarding this. I seem to remember that it was the IC 
> > > > associated with the switches, but I can't promise my brain is with me on 
> > > > that one. I semi-payed attention 'cause my hihat module is have similar 
> > > > ideas though it works after having been switched on a while.
> > > > 
> > > > > My housemate has some roland V-drums - so hopefully I'll be able to 
> > > > > trigger it properly using the roland pads...About to start searching 
> > > > > through messages regarding this!
> > > > 
> > > > "Triggering properly" should mean original hexaheads. :P But if you mean 
> > > > by hitting pads I think that should work well if you just search for the 
> > > > correct level settings and the odd XLR-solderings of the SDS-V.
> > > > 
> > > > > All the best
> > > > > Al
> > > > 
> > > > Once again, welcome to the list!
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > electronically yours, jesper
> > > > 
> > > > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> > > > www.electronic-obsession.se
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: introducing myself.....

2010-01-14 by hungry_ghostie

Hi Aaron,

Very Strange!

I'll bear that in mind.  Its probably much more complicated than I'm hoping!

I assumed the problem was to do with the buttons (or related) becouse, after swapping some modules around, it looked like the problems are local to each module - it doesnt make a difference which socket they're in - the modules were consitant in there behaviour.

Thanks very much for the info,

Al


--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "the_green_dome" <aaronjthomas@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi
> 
> I had exactly this problem.  Took it to my local vintage electronics friend.  I assumed it was a switch problem, but this didn't seem to be the case.  
> 
> There was some issue with voltage building up on the power buss which runs through the back of the unit.  My friend thought it was somehow related to the input for the hihat pedal, and built a simple bypass to fool the device into thinking the pedal is present - and this seemed to fix the issue - but only for the Tom modules!  
> 
> Bass and Snare still suffer from the same issue - but very inconsistently.  Sometimes I switch on from cold and they are fine.  Other times I switch on and have to wait 15 - 20 minutes before I can start selecting other modules.
> 
> Strange!
> 
> Aaron
> 
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "hungry_ghostie" <hungry_ghostie@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi There,
> > 
> > Al from London....
> > 
> > I just bought a simmons sdsv brain, and thought I'd join up here.
> > 
> > I triggered each cannel via an old synth to test it - seems pretty much working & sounds amazing!  Came with Kick, snare & 4 x tom modules.
> > 
> > Only issue is that four of the modules seem stuck on the factory preset.  Perhaps the buttons have given up?!  I was wondering if this is a common problem?
> > 
> > My housemate has some roland V-drums - so hopefully I'll be able to trigger it properly using the roland pads...About to start searching through messages regarding this!  
> > 
> > All the best
> > 
> > Al
> >
>

Re: introducing myself.....

2010-01-16 by the_green_dome

> I'll bear that in mind.  Its probably much more complicated than I'm hoping!

True but these things are worth it, aren't they?!  My friend continually told me how impressed he was at the engineering and ingenuity that had gone into making the SDS-V - he said the quality was something you would never see in a modern instrument.

> I assumed the problem was to do with the buttons (or related) becouse, after swapping some modules around, it looked like the problems are local to each module - it doesnt make a difference which socket they're in - the modules were consitant in there behaviour.

Apparently the Tom modules connect to this power buss at the back, in a way which the Bass and Snare modules do not (although Bass and Snare must require a power feed of some sort?).  My technical knowledge is somewhere just below zero so I can't confirm or deny this.  

I'm led to believe that if you have one of the magical Cymbal or Hihat modules, they need to be put into slot 6 or 7, because they behave differently in those slots than in 1 to 5.  So it sounds like not only is each module different in behaviour, it also depends which slot you put them in?

Aaron

Re: introducing myself.....

2010-01-18 by hungry_ghostie

Cheers Aaron - All very usefull information - It'll definately be worth it if I can get it working as it should!

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "the_green_dome" <aaronjthomas@...> wrote:
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>
> > I'll bear that in mind.  Its probably much more complicated than I'm hoping!
> 
> True but these things are worth it, aren't they?!  My friend continually told me how impressed he was at the engineering and ingenuity that had gone into making the SDS-V - he said the quality was something you would never see in a modern instrument.
> 
> > I assumed the problem was to do with the buttons (or related) becouse, after swapping some modules around, it looked like the problems are local to each module - it doesnt make a difference which socket they're in - the modules were consitant in there behaviour.
> 
> Apparently the Tom modules connect to this power buss at the back, in a way which the Bass and Snare modules do not (although Bass and Snare must require a power feed of some sort?).  My technical knowledge is somewhere just below zero so I can't confirm or deny this.  
> 
> I'm led to believe that if you have one of the magical Cymbal or Hihat modules, they need to be put into slot 6 or 7, because they behave differently in those slots than in 1 to 5.  So it sounds like not only is each module different in behaviour, it also depends which slot you put them in?
> 
> Aaron
>

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: introducing myself.....

2010-01-19 by jesper

the_green_dome skrev:
> I'm led to believe that if you have one of the magical Cymbal or Hihat 
> modules, they need to be put into slot 6 or 7, because they behave 
> differently in those slots than in 1 to 5. So it sounds like not only is 
> each module different in behaviour, it also depends which slot you put 
> them in?

AFAIK location has no real importancy. It's just that some modules are
"thicker" so make sure not to short circuit anything. The bus feeds all
cards in the same way, it's just that all cards don't receives the feeds
they're getting. It's been a while, but I think I tested my hihat in
other locations to rule out imperfections in the connection.

But I might be wrong, I have my cymbal in slot 6 and Hihat in slot 7. :D

-- 
electronically yours, jesper

- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

[Simmons Drums] Re: introducing myself.....

2010-01-19 by the_green_dome

jesper <jesper@...> wrote:

> But I might be wrong, I have my cymbal in slot 6 and Hihat in slot 7. :D

Jealousy is a very unattractive emotion.  This is why I am hiding it so well.

Aaron