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2009-02-02 by superwolle70
Hi, I don't know if anybody even noticed, but the analog Clap Trap appeared in two different faces (different knobs, different font type, different arrangement of control components). I guess one is an older Musicaid version, the other already shows the new Simmons logo. Does anybody have both an can tell something about this (Thomas?)? Do they technically differ or is the younger version only facelifted? Thanks
2009-02-02 by Thomas Heckmann
Hi guys, I've uploaded a pic of all three different versions that I have already some time ago and here's the specs: - Analogue Clap Trap MK 1 Musicaid angled version without Humanizer, push buttons with LED like on OBX, OBXa aso. Ensemble Clap: Poti for Ragged-Tight and High-Low, Noise called Hiss and has Poti for Long-Short and High-Low (I actually opened mine and trimmed the inside Resonance Poti up, so I have oscillating Resonance as well. - Analogue Clap Trap MK 2 Simmons non angled flat version, adds knob for Humanizer (kind of random claps to make it more "human"), TR-909 like push buttons, but very liable to break off ! Ensemble: Poti for Ragged-Tight and High-Low, Noise called Crash and has Poti for Long-Short and High-Low (I also opened mine and trimmed the inside Resonance Poti up, so I have oscillating Resonance as well. Soundwise they differ like an EMS AKS to a VCS 3. Hope that helped and check out my photos... Best Thomas On Feb 2, 2009, at 10:45 AM, superwolle70 wrote: > Hi, > I don't know if anybody even noticed, but the analog Clap Trap > appeared in two different faces (different knobs, different font type, > different arrangement of control components). I guess one is an older > Musicaid version, the other already shows the new Simmons logo. Does > anybody have both an can tell something about this (Thomas?)? Do they > technically differ or is the younger version only facelifted? > Thanks > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Thomas P. Heckmann Trope Recordings - AFU limited - AFULAB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-02-02 by superwolle70
Thanks Thomas! That was both: Fast AND competent! Not typical for a community --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Heckmann <troperecordings@...> wrote:
> > Hi guys, > > I've uploaded a pic of all three different versions that I have > already some time ago and here's the specs: > > - Analogue Clap Trap MK 1 Musicaid angled version without Humanizer, > push buttons with LED like on OBX, OBXa aso. > Ensemble Clap: Poti for Ragged-Tight and High-Low, Noise called > Hiss and has Poti for Long-Short and High-Low (I actually > opened mine and trimmed the inside Resonance Poti up, so I have > oscillating Resonance as well. > > - Analogue Clap Trap MK 2 Simmons non angled flat version, adds knob > for Humanizer (kind of random claps to make it more "human"), > TR-909 like push buttons, but very liable to break off ! > Ensemble: Poti for Ragged-Tight and High-Low, Noise called Crash > and has Poti for Long-Short and High-Low (I also > opened mine and trimmed the inside Resonance Poti up, so I have > oscillating Resonance as well. > > Soundwise they differ like an EMS AKS to a VCS 3. > > Hope that helped and check out my photos... > > Best > > Thomas > > On Feb 2, 2009, at 10:45 AM, superwolle70 wrote: > > > Hi, > > I don't know if anybody even noticed, but the analog Clap Trap > > appeared in two different faces (different knobs, different font type, > > different arrangement of control components). I guess one is an older > > Musicaid version, the other already shows the new Simmons logo. Does > > anybody have both an can tell something about this (Thomas?)? Do they > > technically differ or is the younger version only facelifted? > > Thanks > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Thomas P. Heckmann > Trope Recordings - AFU limited - AFULAB > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2009-02-02 by jesper
superwolle70 skrev: > > > Hi, > I don't know if anybody even noticed, but the analog Clap Trap > appeared in two different faces (different knobs, different font type, > different arrangement of control components). I guess one is an older > Musicaid version, the other already shows the new Simmons logo. Does > anybody have both an can tell something about this (Thomas?)? Do they > technically differ or is the younger version only facelifted? > Thanks Are there even more versions? Mk2 has "humanizer" which mk1 is missing. But are you talking about mk1 or mk2 or do you mean the differencies between the two. -- electronically yours, jesper - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - www.electronic-obsession.se www.myspace.com/machinepop - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - "Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too."
2009-02-02 by Thomas Heckmann
Hmm, even though I was soooo precise... There's also the MK 3, which is the Digital Clap Trap, I was just showing the difference between the Musicaid and Simmons ANALOGUE CLAP TRAP ;-) On Feb 2, 2009, at 11:25 AM, jesper wrote: > superwolle70 skrev: >> >> >> Hi, >> I don't know if anybody even noticed, but the analog Clap Trap >> appeared in two different faces (different knobs, different font >> type, >> different arrangement of control components). I guess one is an older >> Musicaid version, the other already shows the new Simmons logo. Does >> anybody have both an can tell something about this (Thomas?)? Do they >> technically differ or is the younger version only facelifted? >> Thanks > > Are there even more versions? Mk2 has "humanizer" which mk1 is > missing. > But are you talking about mk1 or mk2 or do you mean the differencies > between the two. > > -- > electronically yours, jesper > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - > www.electronic-obsession.se > www.myspace.com/machinepop > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - > > "Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too." > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Thomas P. Heckmann Trope Recordings - AFU limited - AFULAB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-02-02 by superwolle70
I wanted to know the differences between this http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170298474377 and that http://www.simmonsmuseum.com/?area=downloads&download_id=45 --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
> > superwolle70 skrev: > > > > > > Hi, > > I don't know if anybody even noticed, but the analog Clap Trap > > appeared in two different faces (different knobs, different font type, > > different arrangement of control components). I guess one is an older > > Musicaid version, the other already shows the new Simmons logo. Does > > anybody have both an can tell something about this (Thomas?)? Do they > > technically differ or is the younger version only facelifted? > > Thanks > > Are there even more versions? Mk2 has "humanizer" which mk1 is missing. > But are you talking about mk1 or mk2 or do you mean the differencies > between the two. > > -- > electronically yours, jesper > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - > www.electronic-obsession.se > www.myspace.com/machinepop > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - > > "Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too." >
2009-02-02 by jesper
Thomas Heckmann skrev: > > > Hmm, even though I was soooo precise... > There's also the MK 3, which is the Digital Clap Trap, I was just > showing the difference between the Musicaid and Simmons ANALOGUE CLAP > TRAP ;-) I simply ignored mk3. Digital isn't my game! :D -- electronically yours, jesper - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - www.electronic-obsession.se www.myspace.com/machinepop - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - "Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too."
2009-02-02 by jesper
superwolle70 skrev: > > > I wanted to know the differences between this > http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170298474377 > <http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170298474377> > and that > http://www.simmonsmuseum.com/?area=downloads&download_id=45 Then Thomas description is good. But... to make things worse I've seen the mk1 with the white knob caps with index. At least that's what I recall... I want a mk2 for the humanizer function, but maybe Thomas can tell us how useful it is. :D -- electronically yours, jesper - with number 008 of mk1 - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - www.electronic-obsession.se www.myspace.com/machinepop - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - "Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too."
2009-02-02 by Thomas Heckmann
The Humanizer is basically randomly changing the Ragged function, that means kind of pitchy and more or less people clap...if you can call it that ;-) By the way, I'm trading one of my analogue Clap Traps MK1 (yes Jesper, the one in the auction) for anything interesting (like a SDS-3 or 4 ;-). It's in absolute pristine condition and working like new ! Thomas On Feb 2, 2009, at 11:47 AM, jesper wrote: > superwolle70 skrev: >> >> >> I wanted to know the differences between this >> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170298474377 >> <http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170298474377> >> and that >> http://www.simmonsmuseum.com/?area=downloads&download_id=45 > > Then Thomas description is good. But... to make things worse I've seen > the mk1 with the white knob caps with index. At least that's what I > recall... > > I want a mk2 for the humanizer function, but maybe Thomas can tell us > how useful it is. :D > > -- > electronically yours, jesper - with number 008 of mk1 > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - > www.electronic-obsession.se > www.myspace.com/machinepop > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - > > "Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too." > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Thomas P. Heckmann Trope Recordings - AFU limited - AFULAB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-02-02 by jesper
Thomas Heckmann skrev: > The Humanizer is basically randomly changing the Ragged function, that > means kind of pitchy and more or less people clap...if you can call > it that ;-) But is it any good? I know what it does, but when heard - is there any major advantages or just more fun toying with? :) > By the way, I'm trading one of my analogue Clap Traps MK1 (yes > Jesper, the one in the > auction) for anything interesting (like a SDS-3 or 4 ;-). It's in > absolute pristine condition and > working like new ! I have all of the above already and none for trade. :D -- electronically yours, jesper - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - www.electronic-obsession.se www.myspace.com/machinepop - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- - "Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too."