Vintage Simmons Drums (UK) Users Group

Hi list,

finally I'm starting to get time to find out what this baby can do. From 
what I've guessed it was meant to control the SDS-7 - right? But it 
works as well with SDS-V, doesn't it? I know the trigger levels are 
slightly different but otherwise?

Also, is there some cool hold function to allow the eighth channel to 
control the foot switch for the Hihat in SDS-V? Just a thought...

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The HiHat pedal cannot be controlled by the MTM and it cannot record
controller events. It can only record program change events of the
selector pad (this means you can change SDS7 programs via midi!).
The feature list says that pulse height and width of the output signal
can be controlled so you should achieve good trigger pulses for the SDSV

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> Hi list,
> 
> finally I'm starting to get time to find out what this baby can do.
From 

> what I've guessed it was meant to control the SDS-7 - right? But it 
> works as well with SDS-V, doesn't it? I know the trigger levels are 
> slightly different but otherwise?
> 
> Also, is there some cool hold function to allow the eighth channel to 
> control the foot switch for the Hihat in SDS-V? Just a thought...
> 
> -- 
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
> www.myspace.com/machinepop
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> 
> "Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too."
>

superwolle70 skrev:
> 
> 
> The HiHat pedal cannot be controlled by the MTM and it cannot record
> controller events. It can only record program change events of the
> selector pad (this means you can change SDS7 programs via midi!).
> The feature list says that pulse height and width of the output signal
> can be controlled so you should achieve good trigger pulses for the SDSV

But that said the pedal should be controllable, with the right 
connections/voltages. :)

Thanks for the info, I'll read through the manual and dig into the 
features later this weekend. I've realised that despite the fact that I 
have a bunch of other e-drum brains it's the V and 7 that will make best 
use of the velocity controlled response.

-- 
electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se
www.myspace.com/machinepop
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -

"Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too."

Yes, sorry, you are right. Channel 8 can be run in "HiHat mode". As
SDS7 and V HiHat is technically the same, this should work with the
SDSV HiHat also

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> superwolle70 skrev:
> > 
> > 
> > The HiHat pedal cannot be controlled by the MTM and it cannot record
> > controller events. It can only record program change events of the
> > selector pad (this means you can change SDS7 programs via midi!).
> > The feature list says that pulse height and width of the output signal
> > can be controlled so you should achieve good trigger pulses for
the SDSV
> 
> But that said the pedal should be controllable, with the right 
> connections/voltages. :)
> 
> Thanks for the info, I'll read through the manual and dig into the 
> features later this weekend. I've realised that despite the fact that I 
> have a bunch of other e-drum brains it's the V and 7 that will make
best 

> use of the velocity controlled response.
> 
> -- 
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
> www.myspace.com/machinepop
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> 
> "Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too."
>

superwolle70 skrev:
> 
> 
> Yes, sorry, you are right. Channel 8 can be run in "HiHat mode". As
> SDS7 and V HiHat is technically the same, this should work with the
> SDSV HiHat also

And before anyone sends warnings - I will be careful and read carefully 
and or check voltages etc.

-- 
electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se
www.myspace.com/machinepop
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -

"Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too."

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--- On Fri, 21/11/08, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:

From: jesper <jesper@...>
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: MTM - tips & tricks?
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 21 November, 2008, 10:08 AM






superwolle70 skrev:
> 
> 
> Yes, sorry, you are right. Channel 8 can be run in "HiHat mode". As
> SDS7 and V HiHat is technically the same, this should work with the
> SDSV HiHat also

And before anyone sends warnings - I will be careful and read carefully 
and or check voltages etc.

-- 
electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic- obsession. se
www.myspace. com/machinepop
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -

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--- On Fri, 21/11/08, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:

From: jesper <jesper@...>
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: MTM - tips & tricks?
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 21 November, 2008, 10:08 AM

superwolle70 skrev:
> 
> 
> Yes, sorry, you are right. Channel 8 can be run in "HiHat mode". As
> SDS7 and V HiHat is technically the same, this should work with the
> SDSV HiHat also

And before anyone sends warnings - I will be careful and read carefully 
and or check voltages etc.

-- 
electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic- obsession. se
www.myspace. com/machinepop

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i have an mtm but find i get better midi to triggering of my sdsV and sds7 from my analogue solutions mt16. which is weird because its the greatest midi to trig module out there. but it works great with simmons stuff.

--- On Fri, 11/21/08, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:

From: jesper <jesper@...>
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: MTM - tips & tricks?
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 12:30 AM






superwolle70 skrev:
> 
> 
> The HiHat pedal cannot be controlled by the MTM and it cannot record
> controller events. It can only record program change events of the
> selector pad (this means you can change SDS7 programs via midi!).
> The feature list says that pulse height and width of the output signal
> can be controlled so you should achieve good trigger pulses for the SDSV

But that said the pedal should be controllable, with the right 
connections/ voltages. :)

Thanks for the info, I'll read through the manual and dig into the 
features later this weekend. I've realised that despite the fact that I 
have a bunch of other e-drum brains it's the V and 7 that will make best 
use of the velocity controlled response.

-- 
electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic- obsession. se
www.myspace. com/machinepop
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -

"Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too."
 














      

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yes,  the MTM has a slice delay when Midi used...
it was its reputation when it came out.
I use them anyway to trigg all our deary non midi modules from a  
confortable surface ...

P.






Le 21 nov. 08 à 15:58, Zahir Manek a écrit :

> i have an mtm but find i get better midi to triggering of my sdsV  
> and sds7 from my analogue solutions mt16. which is weird because its  
> the greatest midi to trig module out there. but it works great with  
> simmons stuff.
>
> --- On Fri, 11/21/08, jesper <jesper@electronic-obsession.se> wrote:
>
> From: jesper <jesper@...>
> Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: MTM - tips & tricks?
> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 12:30 AM
>
> superwolle70 skrev:
> >
> >
> > The HiHat pedal cannot be controlled by the MTM and it cannot record
> > controller events. It can only record program change events of the
> > selector pad (this means you can change SDS7 programs via midi!).
> > The feature list says that pulse height and width of the output  
> signal
> > can be controlled so you should achieve good trigger pulses for  
> the SDSV
>
> But that said the pedal should be controllable, with the right
> connections/ voltages. :)
>
> Thanks for the info, I'll read through the manual and dig into the
> features later this weekend. I've realised that despite the fact  
> that I
> have a bunch of other e-drum brains it's the V and 7 that will make  
> best
> use of the velocity controlled response.
>
> -- 
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic- obsession. se
> www.myspace. com/machinepop
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>
> "Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too."
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 



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Zahir Manek skrev:
> 
> 
> i have an mtm but find i get better midi to triggering of my sdsV and 
> sds7 from my analogue solutions mt16. which is weird because its the 
> greatest midi to trig module out there. but it works great with simmons 
> stuff.

I've used the kadi outs of my Kenton Pro-4's this far but would love the 
dynamics and "full force" of the MTM. I'll probably return with a review 
later...

-- 
electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se
www.myspace.com/machinepop
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -

"Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too."

Patrice Jacquot skrev:
> 
> 
> 
> yes, the MTM has a slice delay when Midi used...
> it was its reputation when it came out.
> I use them anyway to trigg all our deary non midi modules from a
> confortable surface ...

On the other hand, over midi you can just move the entire part a little 
and there is no harm done... or even cut in the finished recording if 
it's not to bad.

-- 
electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se
www.myspace.com/machinepop
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -

"Spotify is fully legal and so should our content be too."