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919 GBP. That's cruel and vicious but also proves what many people says. 
THe SDS-3 is a lot of drum synth in a cool package with "vintage", 
"cult" and "classic" written all over it.

I sure got an energy boost to finally dig into mine. *sleep kids, 
sleep... dad wants to solder*

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electronically yours, jesper
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I wonder wether I get a rich man if I saw hexagonal plywood planks and
set them on Ebay

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300230722595&mfe=sidebar
> 
> 919 GBP. That's cruel and vicious but also proves what many people
says. 

> THe SDS-3 is a lot of drum synth in a cool package with "vintage", 
> "cult" and "classic" written all over it.
> 
> I sure got an energy boost to finally dig into mine. *sleep kids, 
> sleep... dad wants to solder*
> 
> -- 
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
> www.myspace.com/machinepop
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>

900� for an SDSIII ?  incredible...
does someone want mine ? & my SDSIV ...
for 1500�
  it's yours  :-D   :-D   :-D


We could even draw some hexagons & sign for DS ...Dave Simmons...
100� the drawing ... a real bragain !!! ...

All that sounds really stupid, but it all started with TR 909 no ????
Could it be the first stupid quote of the electronic history ?

weird world ...
Patrice.




Le 11 juin 08 � 14:48, superwolle70 a �crit :

> I wonder wether I get a rich man if I saw hexagonal plywood planks and
> set them on Ebay
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300230722595&mfe=sidebar
> >
> > 919 GBP. That's cruel and vicious but also proves what many people
> says.
> > THe SDS-3 is a lot of drum synth in a cool package with "vintage",
> > "cult" and "classic" written all over it.
> >
> > I sure got an energy boost to finally dig into mine. *sleep kids,
> > sleep... dad wants to solder*
> >
> > --
> > electronically yours, jesper
> > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> > www.electronic-obsession.se
> > www.myspace.com/machinepop
> > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> >
>
>
> 



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But you who always complain about the riot shields sure must enjoy the 
real pads more, no?!

I never grasped where you were going with the 909-comment though.

It's the world of modern collecting and modern history. A stradivarius 
is still just a violin made by an italian with a visual handicap but 
still far from a vintage Simmons unit price-wise...

-- 
electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se
www.myspace.com/machinepop
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Patrice Jacquot skrev:

> 900£ for an SDSIII ?  incredible...
> does someone want mine ? & my SDSIV ...
> for 1500€
>   it's yours  :-D   :-D   :-D
> 
> 
> We could even draw some hexagons & sign for DS ...Dave Simmons...
> 100€ the drawing ... a real bragain !!! ...
> 
> All that sounds really stupid, but it all started with TR 909 no ????
> Could it be the first stupid quote of the electronic history ?
> 
> weird world ...
> Patrice.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 11 juin 08 à 14:48, superwolle70 a écrit :
> 
>> I wonder wether I get a rich man if I saw hexagonal plywood planks and
>> set them on Ebay
>>
>> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
>>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300230722595&mfe=sidebar
>>> 919 GBP. That's cruel and vicious but also proves what many people
>> says.
>>> THe SDS-3 is a lot of drum synth in a cool package with "vintage",
>>> "cult" and "classic" written all over it.
>>>
>>> I sure got an energy boost to finally dig into mine. *sleep kids,
>>> sleep... dad wants to solder*
>>>
>>> --
>>> electronically yours, jesper
>>> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>>> www.electronic-obsession.se
>>> www.myspace.com/machinepop
>>> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -

Le 11 juin 08 à 15:26, jesper a écrit :

> But you who always complain about the riot shields sure must enjoy the
> real pads more, no?!

Absolutely !  ;- )
I never use them because I've been lazy to adapt the wiring ... & I  
suspect some potential crosstalk ...
the thing is I don't consider the SDSIII as playable drums...more like  
choosy & HQ effects...
But that's just my point of view...& point of use for the moment...

I'm not saying the SDSIII isn't a great synths ...
for me it's a great one ! For the price we used to see...
if 900£ was the new rate, it  suddenly wouldn't be so good ...

>
>
> I never grasped where you were going with the 909-comment though.


> about the 909 , I remember speaking about that with Dave in 98...
> we both agreed about the unjustified quote...when a few months(?)  
> earlier the same machine was sold 50£...
>
> The machine doesn't change in between ...it's as good or as bad all  
> over its lifetime...
> it's more all about excessive behaviour I think ...& personnal  
> fantasy...sudden fashion ...
>
> An SDX is a thousand times better  & more creative than a TR909, but  
> the last one is often sold at higher rates...
>
> There is also the aspect of some wealthy collectors who don't look  
> at what it cost & what is the real & basic value ...
> They want it so they don't mind paying the big price...
>
> But does it defines the new quote ?
> Not for me...
> it's just say that someone rich wanted it .
> it doesn't mean it's a new rule. (it might become if all wealthy  
> people wanted the same unit again & again...)
>
>
> It's the world of modern collecting and modern history.

I guess... (the weird world I'm talking about...)


> A stradivarius
> is still just a violin made by an italian with a visual handicap but
> still far from a vintage Simmons unit price-wise...

Yes but stradivarius were already exceptional & unique instruments &  
are getting better with age ...
which isn't the case at all of our electronic instruments...
When they came out , they weren't so exceptional...

I guess they become exceptional now the new market is so poor...

again that's only my point of view...



>> But in the end, it means we surely were right to fight with our  
>> wives by collecting Simmons instead of flats... ;- )
Patrice.
>>
>


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Patrice Jacquot skrev:
>  > But you who always complain about the riot shields sure must enjoy the
>  > real pads more, no?!
> 
> Absolutely ! ;- )
> I never use them because I've been lazy to adapt the wiring ... & I
> suspect some potential crosstalk ...

A friend helped me to dig out brand new speakers so with a bit of fresh 
foam I've soon refurbished all six of mine...

> the thing is I don't consider the SDSIII as playable drums...more like
> choosy & HQ effects...

I can imagine that, especially as a "normal" drummer. Being a synth geek 
I have the other view on the Simmons gear, the sonic/knob-twisting one...

> But that's just my point of view...& point of use for the moment...
> 
> I'm not saying the SDSIII isn't a great synths ...
> for me it's a great one ! For the price we used to see...
> if 900£ was the new rate, it suddenly wouldn't be so good ...

The market _is_ crazy. People sometimes spend 2500 euros on a MiniMoog. 
I have one, I can confirm that it's not worth that. :D

But as said, there is more than sound to this, more than collecting and 
more than looks etc.

-- 
electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se
www.myspace.com/machinepop
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -

> A friend helped me to dig out brand new speakers so with a bit of  
> fresh
> foam I've soon refurbished all six of mine...
>
>




Cool ...

on what stand do you put them ?
the standard cymbal one isn't great ...




> > the thing is I don't consider the SDSIII as playable drums...more  
> like
> > choosy & HQ effects...
>
> I can imagine that, especially as a "normal" drummer. Being a synth  
> geek
> I have the other view on the Simmons gear, the sonic/knob-twisting  
> one...
>






Yep, I don't devellop it yet but ...I look in that way too...
the SDSIII & a destructive bassline...

>
>
> > But that's just my point of view...& point of use for the moment...
> >
> > I'm not saying the SDSIII isn't a great synths ...
> > for me it's a great one ! For the price we used to see...
> > if 900£ was the new rate, it suddenly wouldn't be so good ...
>
> The market _is_ crazy. People sometimes spend 2500 euros on a  
> MiniMoog.
> I have one, I can confirm that it's not worth that. :D
>











That's it ! & when you think of the final use...
So I guess,
as a buyer you have to determine if the gear you want will be used as  
a center of your studio or just as spices here or there...
that should change the price you 'll put in it ...

>
>
> But as said, there is more than sound to this, more than collecting  
> and
> more than looks etc.
>





I guess...


anyway,
have a nice day .
Patrice.







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> electronically yours, jesper
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