Vintage Simmons Drums (UK) Users Group

Hi all, 
     I just sold my backup SDS7 brain and selector pad to someone on E-
bay. The brain and selecter pad all worked fine before I sent it. Now 
he said that when he powered it up that there was no display read out 
and the selecter appear to switch kits but no display and a decay seems 
to be set on all sounds. "CRAP"!!! He said that he moved the program 
module in it and that cleared that up BUT the selecter pad when it is 
plugged in the display go's away. "CRAPPPPPPP"!!!!!!! 
    You guys tell me but I think that it is in the program module or 
maybe the battery module. 
    If someone can help with this that would be sweet. I'm not sure 
what to say other than Welcome to VINTAGE GEAR!
                                               Haley Johnson

Hi,
These are classic symptoms of power supply failure.  The display 
going bonkers, then coming back is a strong indicator of this 
problem.  Whenever you start to have these types of failures in a 
piece of vintage gear, the power supply should be on the top of your 
check list.  I hope this helps.
Bill


--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "crew38special" 
<crew38special@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>      I just sold my backup SDS7 brain and selector pad to someone 
on E-
> bay. The brain and selecter pad all worked fine before I sent it. 
Now 
> he said that when he powered it up that there was no display read 
out 
> and the selecter appear to switch kits but no display and a decay 
seems 
> to be set on all sounds. "CRAP"!!! He said that he moved the 
program 
> module in it and that cleared that up BUT the selecter pad when it 
is 
> plugged in the display go's away. "CRAPPPPPPP"!!!!!!! 
>     You guys tell me but I think that it is in the program module 
or 
> maybe the battery module. 
>     If someone can help with this that would be sweet. I'm not 
sure 

> what to say other than Welcome to VINTAGE GEAR!
>                                                Haley Johnson
>

crew38special skrev:
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I just sold my backup SDS7 brain and selector pad to someone on E-
> bay. The brain and selecter pad all worked fine before I sent it. Now
> he said that when he powered it up that there was no display read out
> and the selecter appear to switch kits but no display and a decay seems
> to be set on all sounds. "CRAP"!!! He said that he moved the program
> module in it and that cleared that up BUT the selecter pad when it is
> plugged in the display go's away. "CRAPPPPPPP"!!!!!!!
> You guys tell me but I think that it is in the program module or
> maybe the battery module.
> If someone can help with this that would be sweet. I'm not sure
> what to say other than Welcome to VINTAGE GEAR!
> Haley Johnson

I hope you sold it without guarantee 'cause shipping a SDS-7 is always 
risky... The selector pads sends some kind of digital message - right? 
If so, a loose wire can result in all kinds of weirdness.

I hope you guys agree on a decent solution.

-- 
electronically yours, jesper
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www.electronic-obsession.se
www.myspace.com/machinepop
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--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> crew38special skrev:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > I just sold my backup SDS7 brain and selector pad to someone on E-
> > bay. The brain and selecter pad all worked fine before I sent it. 
Now
> > he said that when he powered it up that there was no display read 
out
> > and the selecter appear to switch kits but no display and a decay 
seems
> > to be set on all sounds. "CRAP"!!! He said that he moved the 
program
> > module in it and that cleared that up BUT the selecter pad when 
it is
> > plugged in the display go's away. "CRAPPPPPPP"!!!!!!!
> > You guys tell me but I think that it is in the program module or
> > maybe the battery module.
> > If someone can help with this that would be sweet. I'm not sure
> > what to say other than Welcome to VINTAGE GEAR!
> > Haley Johnson
> 
> I hope you sold it without guarantee 'cause shipping a SDS-7 is 
always 
> risky... The selector pads sends some kind of digital message - 
right? 
> If so, a loose wire can result in all kinds of weirdness.
> 
> I hope you guys agree on a decent solution.
> 
> -- 
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
> www.myspace.com/machinepop
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>
Hi there,
I'm the buyer and certainly hold no grudges.  The brain works fine.  
Only the display goes out when the selector pad is connected.  I'm 
not too worried about it, but it would be cool to figure it out.  
I'll look a little closer at the multi-pin connectors when I get a 
chance.  Overall it's a great piece.

Roger

Hi All,
          I would just like to say that Roger Davis is one COOL customer!!! I fell so bad about the SDS7 brain that I sold to him on e-bay. I was REAL worried that something would go wrong with it because it made a trip across  the USA. EAST to WEST. I hope that someone out there can help with the problem with the selecter pad. It sure would be great if it worked right. Hats off to you Roger and know that I will help you out with this to the END!!!
                                                                                    Haley J.

monzarottie <roger.davis@...> wrote:
          --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> crew38special skrev:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > I just sold my backup SDS7 brain and selector pad to someone on E-
> > bay. The brain and selecter pad all worked fine before I sent it. 
Now
> > he said that when he powered it up that there was no display read 
out
> > and the selecter appear to switch kits but no display and a decay 
seems
> > to be set on all sounds. "CRAP"!!! He said that he moved the 
program
> > module in it and that cleared that up BUT the selecter pad when 
it is
> > plugged in the display go's away. "CRAPPPPPPP"!!!!!!!
> > You guys tell me but I think that it is in the program module or
> > maybe the battery module.
> > If someone can help with this that would be sweet. I'm not sure
> > what to say other than Welcome to VINTAGE GEAR!
> > Haley Johnson
> 
> I hope you sold it without guarantee 'cause shipping a SDS-7 is 
always 
> risky... The selector pads sends some kind of digital message - 
right? 
> If so, a loose wire can result in all kinds of weirdness.
> 
> I hope you guys agree on a decent solution.
> 
> -- 
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
> www.myspace.com/machinepop
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>
Hi there,
I'm the buyer and certainly hold no grudges. The brain works fine. 
Only the display goes out when the selector pad is connected. I'm 
not too worried about it, but it would be cool to figure it out. 
I'll look a little closer at the multi-pin connectors when I get a 
chance. Overall it's a great piece.

Roger



                         

       
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Hello,
the selector pad is only 16 switches, arranged in a matrix with 4 inputs and 4 outputs. These have always to be isolated. In your case, something must shortcut one or more of them to ground potential, disturbing the I/O section of the CPU. This might be: A bad jack, a bad cable or- a contact made when the selector jack is inserted into the socket. Several easy tests first: Try to insert the selector jack only half. Remove the selector jacks housing and plug it in without it. Examine your cable, if there is something hurt. While inserted, shake your selector cable near its jack and near the point, where it goes into the housing. What happens? Then: Check, if there is a connection/ shortcut between the ground wire and one of the 8 data wires in the jack. If so, search, where this happens.
I hope, this helps.
Michael 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Haley Johnson 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Selecter Pad for the SDS7


  Hi All,
  I would just like to say that Roger Davis is one COOL customer!!! I fell so bad about the SDS7 brain that I sold to him on e-bay. I was REAL worried that something would go wrong with it because it made a trip across the USA. EAST to WEST. I hope that someone out there can help with the problem with the selecter pad. It sure would be great if it worked right. Hats off to you Roger and know that I will help you out with this to the END!!!
  Haley J.

  monzarottie <roger.davis@...> wrote:
  --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
  >
  > crew38special skrev:
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Hi all,
  > > I just sold my backup SDS7 brain and selector pad to someone on E-
  > > bay. The brain and selecter pad all worked fine before I sent it. 
  Now
  > > he said that when he powered it up that there was no display read 
  out
  > > and the selecter appear to switch kits but no display and a decay 
  seems
  > > to be set on all sounds. "CRAP"!!! He said that he moved the 
  program
  > > module in it and that cleared that up BUT the selecter pad when 
  it is
  > > plugged in the display go's away. "CRAPPPPPPP"!!!!!!!
  > > You guys tell me but I think that it is in the program module or
  > > maybe the battery module.
  > > If someone can help with this that would be sweet. I'm not sure
  > > what to say other than Welcome to VINTAGE GEAR!
  > > Haley Johnson
  > 
  > I hope you sold it without guarantee 'cause shipping a SDS-7 is 
  always 
  > risky... The selector pads sends some kind of digital message - 
  right? 
  > If so, a loose wire can result in all kinds of weirdness.
  > 
  > I hope you guys agree on a decent solution.
  > 
  > -- 
  > electronically yours, jesper
  > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
  > www.electronic-obsession.se
  > www.myspace.com/machinepop
  > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
  >
  Hi there,
  I'm the buyer and certainly hold no grudges. The brain works fine. 
  Only the display goes out when the selector pad is connected. I'm 
  not too worried about it, but it would be cool to figure it out. 
  I'll look a little closer at the multi-pin connectors when I get a 
  chance. Overall it's a great piece.

  Roger

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Michael Buchner skrev:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> the selector pad is only 16 switches, arranged in a matrix with 4 inputs 
> and 4 outputs. These have always to be isolated. In your case, something 
> must shortcut one or more of them to ground potential, disturbing the 
> I/O section of the CPU. This might be: A bad jack, a bad cable or- a 
> contact made when the selector jack is inserted into the socket. Several 
> easy tests first: Try to insert the selector jack only half. Remove the 
> selector jacks housing and plug it in without it. Examine your cable, if 
> there is something hurt. While inserted, shake your selector cable near 
> its jack and near the point, where it goes into the housing. What 
> happens? Then: Check, if there is a connection/ shortcut between the 
> ground wire and one of the 8 data wires in the jack. If so, search, 
> where this happens.
> I hope, this helps.

That was my first idea too, an ohm-meter is also really cheap to buy and 
easy to use without being dangerous to neither the user of the 
equipment, even if you're an electronic rookie.

-- 
electronically yours, jesper
- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se
www.myspace.com/machinepop
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