Vintage Simmons Drums (UK) Users Group

On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 17:01 +0000, Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> ________________________________________________
> 
> 1. I see no bids, so...
>     Posted by: "jesper@..." jesper@... simplyanalogue
>     Date: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:57 pm ((PDT))
> 
> ...collectors, snatch it!!!
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290142179335&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
> 
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -

Quite keen to get that.  Does anyone have any technical info on what was
inside the SDX, or what software it ran?

Gordon

Planning to bid on that later. If I don't get it, will whoever does 
scan it in and post it somewhere ?  I'll do the same if I win it!

I've got the SDX circuit diagrams somewhere that I'm planning to scan 
one rainy day...guess that'll be about now then going on the current 
English weather :o)

Phil.

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...> 
wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 17:01 +0000, Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
> > ________________________________________________
> > 
> > 1. I see no bids, so...
> >     Posted by: "jesper@..." jesper@... simplyanalogue
> >     Date: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:57 pm ((PDT))
> > 
> > ...collectors, snatch it!!!
> > 
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=290142179335&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
> > 
> > electronically yours, jesper
> > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> 
> Quite keen to get that.  Does anyone have any technical info on 
what was

> inside the SDX, or what software it ran?
> 
> Gordon
>

I'm very interested in the schematics of the sdx
perhaps if the weather stays as sh(^&ty as it is now , perhaps I get some
time to build one, since I can't get o holiday

greetz 
berk
>-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>From: "Phil Murray" <philmurr@...>
>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:14:26 -0000
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Digest Number 956
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>Planning to bid on that later. If I don't get it, will whoever does 
>scan it in and post it somewhere ?  I'll do the same if I win it!
>
>I've got the SDX circuit diagrams somewhere that I'm planning to scan 
>one rainy day...guess that'll be about now then going on the current 
>English weather :o)
>
>Phil.
>
>--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...> 
>wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 17:01 +0000, Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>wrote:
>> > ________________________________________________
>> > 
>> > 1. I see no bids, so...
>> >     Posted by: "jesper@..." jesper@... simplyanalogue
>> >     Date: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:57 pm ((PDT))
>> > 
>> > ...collectors, snatch it!!!
>> > 
>> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
>ViewItem&item=290142179335&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
>> > 
>> > electronically yours, jesper
>> > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>> 
>> Quite keen to get that.  Does anyone have any technical info on 
>what was
>> inside the SDX, or what software it ran?
>> 
>> Gordon
>>
>
>


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Er, let "Wolfklang" get it easy and spread it via "simmonsmuseum.com".
B.t.w.: Anybody interested in getting ZI Pads repaired...
Cheers
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:50 PM
Subject: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Digest Number 956


> I'm very interested in the schematics of the sdx
> perhaps if the weather stays as sh(^&ty as it is now , perhaps I get some
> time to build one, since I can't get o holiday
>
> greetz
> berk
> >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
> >To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> >From: "Phil Murray" <philmurr@...>
> >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:14:26 -0000
> >Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Digest Number 956
> >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >Planning to bid on that later. If I don't get it, will whoever does
> >scan it in and post it somewhere ?  I'll do the same if I win it!
> >
> >I've got the SDX circuit diagrams somewhere that I'm planning to scan
> >one rainy day...guess that'll be about now then going on the current
> >English weather :o)
> >
> >Phil.
> >
> >--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 17:01 +0000, Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> >wrote:
> >> > ________________________________________________
> >> >
> >> > 1. I see no bids, so...
> >> >     Posted by: "jesper@..." jesper@... simplyanalogue
> >> >     Date: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:57 pm ((PDT))
> >> >
> >> > ...collectors, snatch it!!!
> >> >
> >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> >ViewItem&item=290142179335&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
> >> >
> >> > electronically yours, jesper
> >> > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> >>
> >> Quite keen to get that.  Does anyone have any technical info on
> >what was
> >> inside the SDX, or what software it ran?
> >>
> >> Gordon
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> 12move ADSL: Voordelig, snel en onbeperkt internet.
> Meer informatie vind je op http://adsl.12move.nl
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"> B.t.w.: Anybody interested in getting ZI Pads repaired...
> Cheers"
Yes! I looked in this many years ago and contacted Interlink
Electronics (producer of FSR's). At the time they stated that the pad
surfaces could not be made due to the oem contract. This might be
worth investigating again. Any ideas on how to repair ZI pads??

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <michael.buchner@...> wrote:
>
> Er, let "Wolfklang" get it easy and spread it via "simmonsmuseum.com".
> B.t.w.: Anybody interested in getting ZI Pads repaired...
> Cheers
> Michael
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...>
> To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:50 PM
> Subject: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Digest Number 956
> 
> 
> > I'm very interested in the schematics of the sdx
> > perhaps if the weather stays as sh(^&ty as it is now , perhaps I
get some
> > time to build one, since I can't get o holiday
> >
> > greetz
> > berk
> > >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
> > >To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> > >From: "Phil Murray" <philmurr@...>
> > >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:14:26 -0000
> > >Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Digest Number 956
> > >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > >Planning to bid on that later. If I don't get it, will whoever does
> > >scan it in and post it somewhere ?  I'll do the same if I win it!
> > >
> > >I've got the SDX circuit diagrams somewhere that I'm planning to scan
> > >one rainy day...guess that'll be about now then going on the current
> > >English weather :o)
> > >
> > >Phil.
> > >
> > >--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@>
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 17:01 +0000, Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> > >wrote:
> > >> > ________________________________________________
> > >> >
> > >> > 1. I see no bids, so...
> > >> >     Posted by: "jesper@" jesper@ simplyanalogue
> > >> >     Date: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:57 pm ((PDT))
> > >> >
> > >> > ...collectors, snatch it!!!
> > >> >
> > >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > >ViewItem&item=290142179335&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
> > >> >
> > >> > electronically yours, jesper
> > >> > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> > >>
> > >> Quite keen to get that.  Does anyone have any technical info on
> > >what was
> > >> inside the SDX, or what software it ran?
> > >>
> > >> Gordon
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> > 12move ADSL: Voordelig, snel en onbeperkt internet.
> > Meer informatie vind je op http://adsl.12move.nl
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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I had to repair an SDX some weeks ago and examined these ZI Pads. There are 2 typical faults: First the metal of the printed coil may oxidize away due to age and humidity. Second: The black plastic cover is damaged and shortcuts. To repair the first fault I make experiments with a "silver conductance paint", sorry for bad english. This is also useful to repair the SDS7's selector pad.
The black (carbon??) plastic is not difficult to replace, I made some experiments with only paper blackened by a pencil. And something to create space between the coil and the paper like small pieces of self adhesive foil. The whole thing, proudly labelled as "FSR" is something like the PCB and buttons of a remote control. The coil has a resistance overall of 15kohms. Now: It must be possible to replace the whole coil by a new etched PCB, may be gold plated (this is not really expensive).
Sometimes it is necessary to connect a wire to the ZI coil. But it is not possible to solder it, because the coil is printed on clear plastic foil. But: If you shoot a coppered staple into the wood near the connection, you can solder the wire to this staple nice and firmly. Then you can paint a connection from the foil to the staple with the "silver conductance paint".
I'm looking forward to repair some ZI Pads, the owner wants to send them to my place soon. So I will talk to you later if I find out more!
Michael

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le 26/07/07 3:28, michael.buchner@... à michael.buchner@debitel.net
a écrit :

> Er, let "Wolfklang" get it easy and spread it via "simmonsmuseum.com".
> B.t.w.: Anybody interested in getting ZI Pads repaired...
> Cheers
> Michael
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...>
> To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:50 PM
> Subject: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Digest Number 956
> 
> 
>> I'm very interested in the schematics of the sdx
>> perhaps if the weather stays as sh(^&ty as it is now , perhaps I get some
>> time to build one, since I can't get o holiday
>> 
>> greetz
>> berk
>>> -- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>>> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>>> From: "Phil Murray" <philmurr@...>
>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:14:26 -0000
>>> Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Digest Number 956
>>> Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Planning to bid on that later. If I don't get it, will whoever does
>>> scan it in and post it somewhere ?  I'll do the same if I win it!
>>> 
>>> I've got the SDX circuit diagrams somewhere that I'm planning to scan
>>> one rainy day...guess that'll be about now then going on the current
>>> English weather :o)
>>> 
>>> Phil.
>>> 
>>> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 17:01 +0000, Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>>> wrote:
>>>>> ________________________________________________
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. I see no bids, so...
>>>>> Posted by: "jesper@..." jesper@... simplyanalogue
>>>>> Date: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:57 pm ((PDT))
>>>>> 
>>>>> ...collectors, snatch it!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
>>> ViewItem&item=290142179335&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
>>>>> 
>>>>> electronically yours, jesper
>>>>> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>>>> 
>>>> Quite keen to get that.  Does anyone have any technical info on
>>> what was
>>>> inside the SDX, or what software it ran?
>>>> 
>>>> Gordon
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> ____________
>> 12move ADSL: Voordelig, snel en onbeperkt internet.
>> Meer informatie vind je op http://adsl.12move.nl
>> 
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>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Hi Michael
how much for some repairerd ZI pads ?
How many ?

bye,
PAtrice.

You have bad ZI pads? May be it would help you if I send you the DIY instruction. It is easy to repair them. Send me your private email address and on we go.
MichaEL

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le 28/09/07 2:19, michael.buchner@... à michael.buchner@debitel.net
a écrit :

You have bad ZI pads? May be it would help you if I send you the DIY
instruction. It is easy to repair them. Send me your private email address
and on we go.
MichaEL


>>>>
Well, in my case I'm fortunate enough for the moment to have them all in
very good conditions , but for how long ?
Therefore, you can contact me here ; jacquot.patrice@...
& let's speak about all that.

But i'm sure all users are not in that case...

it's good to know that there is some hope again for this wonderful
dynausaurus...

speak soon,
Patrice.
mmmh I don't share your opinion about the sounds & storing in an AKAI ...
Personnally I never had been convinced by AKAI...in term of sound...
The future now comes from DFH or whatever software...
But the SDX is shining  by its grain  & sound quality & of course the
original library , there is no soft at the moment that can give you this ...
We 'll have in the future to find a way to use these audio converters &
filters again ...
but yeah storage & editing can be done by any good computer system with a
nice green screen ...  ; - )



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Or you could always break down and buy a brand new set of Roland V-
Drums!!!!!!! ha ha



--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Jack <Jacquot.Patrice@...> 
wrote:
>
> le 28/09/07 2:19, michael.buchner@... à michael.buchner@...
> a écrit :
> 
> You have bad ZI pads? May be it would help you if I send you the 
DIY
> instruction. It is easy to repair them. Send me your private email 
address
> and on we go.
> MichaEL
> 
> 
> >>>>
> Well, in my case I'm fortunate enough for the moment to have them 
all in
> very good conditions , but for how long ?
> Therefore, you can contact me here ; jacquot.patrice@...
> & let's speak about all that.
> 
> But i'm sure all users are not in that case...
> 
> it's good to know that there is some hope again for this wonderful
> dynausaurus...
> 
> speak soon,
> Patrice.
> mmmh I don't share your opinion about the sounds & storing in an 
AKAI ...
> Personnally I never had been convinced by AKAI...in term of 
sound...
> The future now comes from DFH or whatever software...
> But the SDX is shining  by its grain  & sound quality & of course 
the
> original library , there is no soft at the moment that can give 
you this ...
> We 'll have in the future to find a way to use these audio 
converters &
> filters again ...
> but yeah storage & editing can be done by any good computer system 
with a

> nice green screen ...  ; - )
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

le 28/09/07 3:01, Jim à jbospunk@... a écrit :

Or you could always break down and buy a brand new set of Roland V-
Drums!!!!!!! ha ha


If it sounded good it would be done for a long time ... :-)
Personnaly, except the pads, I don't like much Roland Vdrum .
It sounds like a joke ... :-(
just my personnal taste.
this time I go to bed ... :-)
bye,



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