Vintage Simmons Drums (UK) Users Group

Hi!

It would be interesting to know your prices. Especially keeping the current
prices of the EPB in mind... I bought a cheap EPB and was given a batch of
E-proms by a friend working in the computer (hardware) business.
THey all had programs on them when I got them, but he kindly supplied me
with an ultra violet lamp too so that was easily fixed...
I kept one of those program proms however - it sounded to cool to spoil! %)

electronically yours, jesper

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From: "Greg" <sovereigng@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:45 PM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] EPROMs for Simmons drums available


> Do you have an SDS-1, SDS-7 or SDS-9 that you'd like to upgrade? I
> have numerous EPROMs available for these units. Bass drums, snare
> drums, toms, timbales, even samples of real cymbals like Paiste 22"
> Signature Mellow Ride (which is out of production), Zildjian 13"
> Quick Beat hi-hats and Zildjian 19" K China.
> Custom recording of EPROMs is available as well. You send me the
> competently recorded sound on CD, DAT or type IV cassette and I
> extract it and burn it onto an EPROM for you.
> If you need cymbal cards for your SDS-7 I have a few of those
> available as well. E-mail me for complete list.
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Hi Jesper,
I have an EPB, too. I keep it in a spare ATA case as it was in near mint
condition when I got it and I don't want to scratch it. I don't have much use
for it other than to tell fellow collectors that I have one. It is what I
used when I learned about EPROMs but have since upgraded to a pair of Oberheim
Prommers. The editing capabilities of the Prommer blow away the EPB. And it's
MIDI so if you're really bored you can spend some time setting it up as a
primitive drum machine and trigger the sounds from your sequencer. Woohoo!
In addition to that I have a semi-commercial recording studio. (My home
studio is stocked well enough to generate money, though I wouldn't want to
rely on that income.) I have better than average microphones, preamplifiers,
compressors, etc. I have many of the sought after drum machines to sample from.
I'm also a drummer who has gone w/out food to fund better percussion gear.
Thankfully, those days are long gone and now I can afford great gear AND food on
the same paycheck. I'm a bit of a snare drum and cymbal snob. I have 2 Noble &
Cooley SS Classic snare drums and I also have a Noble & Cooley/Zildjian
collaboration. All brass, shell made by Zildjian from their 'A' series cymbals just
to name a few. As for Cymbals, I use many Paiste Signature models in addition
to some Zildjian 'K's and even a few Sabians. I probably have around 30 cymbals
now. But it's taken years to build that collection.
I record these acoustic instruments, unprocessed, to ADAT or DAT and
then use the appropriate audio tools (EQ, gating, compression, reverb, etc.) as I
sample into the Prommer. I do further editing to clean up the heads and tails
of the samples in the Prommer. If I'm satisfied with the results, I'll burn
to a chip and then I'll play it on one of my SDS-1s. If I like the playability
and the sound quality I'll go ahead and label it. If not, I start the whole
process over. This is repeated until I have a chip I can be proud of.

Basically, I've taken the long way around and explained why you should
be coming to me for all your Simmons EPROMs.

Hope to hear from you soon.



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Hi!

> I have an EPB, too. I keep it in a spare ATA case as it was in near

mint

> condition when I got it and I don't want to scratch it. I don't have much

use

> for it other than to tell fellow collectors that I have one.

A point of owning one as good as any! =)

> It is what I
> used when I learned about EPROMs but have since upgraded to a pair of

Oberheim

> Prommers. The editing capabilities of the Prommer blow away the EPB.

So, they're not Simmons! ;) *puritan style*

> And it's
> MIDI so if you're really bored you can spend some time setting it up as a
> primitive drum machine and trigger the sounds from your sequencer. Woohoo!

I can do that with the EPB too... I have four Kenton Pro-4's and each has a
kadi out which can be splitable in 11 separate triggers... I only use two of
those four outs this far and trigger SDS-1 (x2), SDS-V, a Tama TS-305 and
the Pearl Syncussion... But there are channels left for the EPB if I want
too...

> In addition to that I have a semi-commercial recording studio. (My

home

> studio is stocked well enough to generate money, though I wouldn't want to
> rely on that income.) I have better than average microphones,

preamplifiers,

> compressors, etc. I have many of the sought after drum machines to sample

from.

Sample - yack! ;)

> I'm also a drummer who has gone w/out food to fund better percussion gear.
> Thankfully, those days are long gone and now I can afford great gear AND

food on

> the same paycheck. I'm a bit of a snare drum and cymbal snob. I have 2

Noble &

> Cooley SS Classic snare drums and I also have a Noble & Cooley/Zildjian
> collaboration. All brass, shell made by Zildjian from their 'A' series

cymbals just

> to name a few. As for Cymbals, I use many Paiste Signature models in

addition

> to some Zildjian 'K's and even a few Sabians. I probably have around 30

cymbals

> now. But it's taken years to build that collection.

As an electronic fanatic and only _very_ hobbyist drummer you've lost me...
Who needs meal cymbals when they have a SDS-V cymbal card?! >;)

> I record these acoustic instruments, unprocessed, to ADAT or DAT and
> then use the appropriate audio tools (EQ, gating, compression, reverb,

etc.) as I

> sample into the Prommer. I do further editing to clean up the heads and

tails

> of the samples in the Prommer. If I'm satisfied with the results, I'll

burn

> to a chip and then I'll play it on one of my SDS-1s. If I like the

playability

> and the sound quality I'll go ahead and label it. If not, I start the

whole

> process over. This is repeated until I have a chip I can be proud of.

THe way it should be... I'm into twisting neat sound into non-recognisable
weirdness. I guess we have a different approach to music...

> Basically, I've taken the long way around and explained why you

should

> be coming to me for all your Simmons EPROMs.

Nice to hear the story, but I think I'm more impressed with detuned and
fucked up noise from my OSCar or a mini sequence from the CS-30 rather than
one of your fancy cymbals... Not that I don't think you're doing a great
job - I bet you do, but I don't want my drum sounds to sound like drum
sounds... =)

electronically yours, jesper

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Excellent!
Jesper, I love fucked up sounds, too! I make plenty of those, but it's
all subjective. Some of my sounds are mildly distorted and rounded off with
compression. Some of them are very Aphex Twin. It's all a matter of taste and how
they get mixed in a song. Many Simmons owners are actually drummers like me
and would appreciate a raw drum sound that hasn't been fooled with so that they
can fuck it up themselves and make it their own.

I see we still have gear in common. I have an SDS-V w/ cymbal but no
hi-hat. Isn't that cymbal card sweet? I have 4 SDS-1s. Two work, ones on the
bench, the fourth is for parts. Two Tama TS-206s and a TS-204. No Syncussion.
Sorry. But there is a working SDS-7 in my room! And a broken one. 15 cards and
growing (it maxes out at 12 but who can say they have too many spares.) I love
electronic drums.

Greg



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Hi!

Anyone else on this list? ;)

> Jesper, I love fucked up sounds, too! I make plenty of those, but

it's

> all subjective. Some of my sounds are mildly distorted and rounded off

with

> compression. Some of them are very Aphex Twin. It's all a matter of taste

and how

> they get mixed in a song. Many Simmons owners are actually drummers like

me

> and would appreciate a raw drum sound that hasn't been fooled with so that

they

> can fuck it up themselves and make it their own.

Phil Collins-wannabes! ;) I like fiddling around with everything as much as
possible...

> I see we still have gear in common. I have an SDS-V w/ cymbal but no
> hi-hat. Isn't that cymbal card sweet?

It kicks ass! The HH to, it uses the same prom but has other settings/fly
wires inside...

> I have 4 SDS-1s. Two work, ones on the
> bench, the fourth is for parts. Two Tama TS-206s and a TS-204. No

Syncussion.

Tamas are OK, but if I was forced to throw the Simmons out I'd go for the
SY-1. It's amazing at both wicked and DEEEEP sounds...

> Sorry. But there is a working SDS-7 in my room! And a broken one. 15 cards

and

> growing (it maxes out at 12 but who can say they have too many spares.)

I love

> electronic drums.

Lofi and smashing analogue in a good mix, that's my motto!



electronically yours, jesper

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