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Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-02 by Rob

does anyone know how that works, that, when steve strikes the same pad 
(in the video the snare pad) like 5 times after one another, it is 
always doing another sound? (snare - rim - snare - snare somewhat 
deeper...)
so he isn't just triggering the sound(notes) itself, but some kind of 
sequence?

greetz from munich
robert

Am 02.03.2007 um 03:55 schrieb nivea_soft5:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwNkLsiNEFQ&mode=related&search




	
		
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-02 by jesper@electronic-obsession.se

Isn't there such a possibility on the MTM? Or am I imagining...? Even the 
TMI might sort that out I think, at least with some help. Are you sure he's 
not stepping through a sequence while playing?

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Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "


> does anyone know how that works, that, when steve strikes the same pad
> (in the video the snare pad) like 5 times after one another, it is
> always doing another sound? (snare - rim - snare - snare somewhat
> deeper...)
> so he isn't just triggering the sound(notes) itself, but some kind of
> sequence?
>
> greetz from munich
> robert
>
> Am 02.03.2007 um 03:55 schrieb nivea_soft5:
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-02 by sovereigng@aol.com

Good answer. But how old is this video? The  MTM has that capability but was 
not released until '84 or '85 unless I'm  mistaken?
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-02 by Rob

thanx for answering jesper.
i never have used an MTM so i am not aware of it's capabilities :o(
i only used the TMI to trigger single sounds via midi, so i am not sure 
about this
i was only judging from the video, where i can't see steve doing any 
additional things while playing. it looks he's not even hitting the pad 
in different zones, that's why i was wondering ;o)

stay tuned
robert

Am 02.03.2007 um 12:51 schrieb <jesper@...>:

> Isn't there such a possibility on the MTM? Or am I imagining...? Even 
> the
>  TMI might sort that out I think, at least with some help. Are you 
> sure he's
>  not stepping through a sequence while playing?

>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Rob" <hogfire80@...>
>   > does anyone know how that works, that, when steve strikes the same 
> pad
>  > (in the video the snare pad) like 5 times after one another, it is
>  > always doing another sound? (snare - rim - snare - snare somewhat
>  > deeper...)
>  > so he isn't just triggering the sound(notes) itself, but some kind 
> of
>  > sequence?
>  >
>  > greetz from munich
>  > robert

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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-02 by Rob

the video should be from 1981

Am 02.03.2007 um 13:20 schrieb sovereigng@...:

> Good answer. But how old is this video? The MTM has that capability 
> but was
>  not released until '84 or '85 unless I'm mistaken?

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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-02 by sovereigng@aol.com

Can that be verified? Sometimes dates get  mixed up when dating these bands.
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-02 by jesper@electronic-obsession.se

It is possible that he's triggering the clock input of a sequencer which is 
then set up to go to differrent cards of the SDS-V. That's my guess then. No 
magic trick, though a nice one! :)

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Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "


> the video should be from 1981
>
> Am 02.03.2007 um 13:20 schrieb sovereigng@...:
>
>> Good answer. But how old is this video? The MTM has that capability
>> but was
>>  not released until '84 or '85 unless I'm mistaken?
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Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-03 by Berk Aarts

In most samplers it's possible to layer sounds
and they trigger at different velocity levels ( in theory you can trigger
127 different samples in this waY)
perhaps he assigned say 5 different samples ( this is an example)
vel 0-30 snare
vel 31-60 deepsnare
vel 61-90 rimshot
vel 90-110 bassdrum
vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink

perhaps thats the way he's doing this
I know that in the roland PM 16 this is also possible and also layer 3 notes
( for chordplaying etc) and pitchbending, modulation etc
drag YOU have to program it yourself
good luck and have fun

BERK!




>-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>From: Rob <hogfire80@...>
>Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:58:15 +0100
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>does anyone know how that works, that, when steve strikes the same pad 
>(in the video the snare pad) like 5 times after one another, it is 
>always doing another sound? (snare - rim - snare - snare somewhat 
>deeper...)
>so he isn't just triggering the sound(notes) itself, but some kind of 
>sequence?
>
>greetz from munich
>robert
>
>Am 02.03.2007 um 03:55 schrieb nivea_soft5:
>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwNkLsiNEFQ&mode=related&search
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by Rob

that would be a very good guess i think!
thank you.

> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
*LOL*
=;o)



Am 03.03.2007 um 17:48 schrieb Berk Aarts:

> In most samplers it's possible to layer sounds
> and they trigger at different velocity levels ( in theory you can 
> trigger
> 127 different samples in this waY)
> perhaps he assigned say 5 different samples ( this is an example)
> vel 0-30 snare
> vel 31-60 deepsnare
> vel 61-90 rimshot
> vel 90-110 bassdrum
> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
>
> perhaps thats the way he's doing this
> I know that in the roland PM 16 this is also possible and also layer 3 
> notes
> ( for chordplaying etc) and pitchbending, modulation etc
> drag YOU have to program it yourself
> good luck and have fun
>
> BERK!


		
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by jesper@electronic-obsession.se

"most samplers" - weren't we talking 1981 here? I still bet on the stepped 
sequencer I proposed...

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Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "


> that would be a very good guess i think!
> thank you.
>
>> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
> *LOL*
> =;o)
>
>
>
> Am 03.03.2007 um 17:48 schrieb Berk Aarts:
>
>> In most samplers it's possible to layer sounds
>> and they trigger at different velocity levels ( in theory you can
>> trigger
>> 127 different samples in this waY)
>> perhaps he assigned say 5 different samples ( this is an example)
>> vel 0-30 snare
>> vel 31-60 deepsnare
>> vel 61-90 rimshot
>> vel 90-110 bassdrum
>> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
>>
>> perhaps thats the way he's doing this
>> I know that in the roland PM 16 this is also possible and also layer 3
>> notes
>> ( for chordplaying etc) and pitchbending, modulation etc
>> drag YOU have to program it yourself
>> good luck and have fun
>>
>> BERK!
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Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by Berk Aarts

That explains the moustache !!
I thought Rob wanted to simulate the same effect
and this is one way off doing it (imo)

BERK!


>-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>From: <jesper@electronic-obsession.se>
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:45:57 +0100
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>"most samplers" - weren't we talking 1981 here? I still bet on the stepped
>
>sequencer I proposed...
>
>electronically yours, jesper
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>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Rob" <hogfire80@...>
>To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:36 PM
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
>
>
>> that would be a very good guess i think!
>> thank you.
>>
>>> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
>> *LOL*
>> =;o)
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 03.03.2007 um 17:48 schrieb Berk Aarts:
>>
>>> In most samplers it's possible to layer sounds
>>> and they trigger at different velocity levels ( in theory you can
>>> trigger
>>> 127 different samples in this waY)
>>> perhaps he assigned say 5 different samples ( this is an example)
>>> vel 0-30 snare
>>> vel 31-60 deepsnare
>>> vel 61-90 rimshot
>>> vel 90-110 bassdrum
>>> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
>>>
>>> perhaps thats the way he's doing this
>>> I know that in the roland PM 16 this is also possible and also layer
3
>>> notes
>>> ( for chordplaying etc) and pitchbending, modulation etc
>>> drag YOU have to program it yourself
>>> good luck and have fun
>>>
>>> BERK!
>>
>>
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Steve Negus and SAGA electronic drumming

2007-03-04 by Rob

well i read an interview with steve negus, which he did in the very  
early SAGA days, concerning the title "how long", which is on their  
first 1978 album i believe. there is a 1/16 note synthie-sound sequence  
at the beginning of the song which is triggering the drum, as explained  
here:
http://saga-germany.de/gallery2/specials_diverses/soundideas0001?full=1

so steve has always been in the front row concerning electronic  
drumming (using MOOG drums in the very very early days and as he states  
bringing the first SIMMONS set into canada), probably he had a special  
solution for this.

there's another interesting interview about how steve got involved into  
electronic stuff and especially simmons drums:
http://saga-germany.de/gallery2/specials_canadianmusician/ 
CanadianMusician2b?full=1
the interview goes over the next to pages also (it's all jpegs from the  
magazine)

stay tuned
robert

Am 04.03.2007 um 14:45 schrieb <jesper@...>:

> "most samplers" - weren't we talking 1981 here? I still bet on the  
> stepped
>  sequencer I proposed...
>  electronically yours, jesper
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Rob" <hogfire80@...>
>  > that would be a very good guess i think!
>  >

>  > Am 03.03.2007 um 17:48 schrieb Berk Aarts:
>  >> In most samplers it's possible to layer sounds
>  >> and they trigger at different velocity levels ( in theory you can
>  >> trigger
>  >> 127 different samples in this waY)
>  >> perhaps he assigned say 5 different samples ( this is an example)
>  >> vel 0-30 snare
>  >> vel 31-60 deepsnare
>  >> vel 61-90 rimshot
>  >> vel 90-110 bassdrum
>  >> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink

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Re: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by Rob

well actually i was just wondering how they might have done it at that 
time.
but it sure would be a nice show-effect nowadays also ;o)
thanx for your thoughts

Am 04.03.2007 um 15:04 schrieb Berk Aarts:

> I thought Rob wanted to simulate the same effect
> and this is one way off doing it (imo)
>
> BERK!




	
		
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Re: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by jesper@electronic-obsession.se

OK, you want to duplicate it - then I'm with you... sorry! :)

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Subject: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "


That explains the moustache !!
I thought Rob wanted to simulate the same effect
and this is one way off doing it (imo)

BERK!


>-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>From: <jesper@...>
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:45:57 +0100
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>"most samplers" - weren't we talking 1981 here? I still bet on the stepped
>
>sequencer I proposed...
>
>electronically yours, jesper
>- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
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>
>Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
>split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
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>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Rob" <hogfire80@...>
>To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:36 PM
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
>
>
>> that would be a very good guess i think!
>> thank you.
>>
>>> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
>> *LOL*
>> =;o)
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 03.03.2007 um 17:48 schrieb Berk Aarts:
>>
>>> In most samplers it's possible to layer sounds
>>> and they trigger at different velocity levels ( in theory you can
>>> trigger
>>> 127 different samples in this waY)
>>> perhaps he assigned say 5 different samples ( this is an example)
>>> vel 0-30 snare
>>> vel 31-60 deepsnare
>>> vel 61-90 rimshot
>>> vel 90-110 bassdrum
>>> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
>>>
>>> perhaps thats the way he's doing this
>>> I know that in the roland PM 16 this is also possible and also layer
3
>>> notes
>>> ( for chordplaying etc) and pitchbending, modulation etc
>>> drag YOU have to program it yourself
>>> good luck and have fun
>>>
>>> BERK!
>>
>>
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by ken_evans_99

I've used velocity triggering for two sounds from one pad (Roland 
PM7??) and an Ensoniq ASR-10....ok, but unreliable, way too twitchy, 
and that's only two velocity layers and an '89-ish vinatge sampler. 
Some of the early Emax's had velocity layers (from memory - oops, 
showing my age) but I think they only had two layers total as opposed 
to the Ensoniq 16+/ASR's 8 layers....my brain hurts.  don't think 
there was a sampler around pre-'83-ish that could do velocity layers.



--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> OK, you want to duplicate it - then I'm with you... sorry! :)
> 
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
> 
> Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
> split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
> 
> "Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...>
> To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 3:04 PM
> Subject: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
> 
> 
> That explains the moustache !!
> I thought Rob wanted to simulate the same effect
> and this is one way off doing it (imo)
> 
> BERK!
> 
> 
> >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
> >To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> >From: <jesper@...>
> >Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:45:57 +0100
> >Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
> >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >"most samplers" - weren't we talking 1981 here? I still bet on the 
stepped
> >
> >sequencer I proposed...
> >
> >electronically yours, jesper
> >- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> >www.electronic-obsession.se
> >
> >Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
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> >
> >"Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Rob" <hogfire80@...>
> >To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:36 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
> >
> >
> >> that would be a very good guess i think!
> >> thank you.
> >>
> >>> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
> >> *LOL*
> >> =;o)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 03.03.2007 um 17:48 schrieb Berk Aarts:
> >>
> >>> In most samplers it's possible to layer sounds
> >>> and they trigger at different velocity levels ( in theory you 
can
> >>> trigger
> >>> 127 different samples in this waY)
> >>> perhaps he assigned say 5 different samples ( this is an 
example)
> >>> vel 0-30 snare
> >>> vel 31-60 deepsnare
> >>> vel 61-90 rimshot
> >>> vel 90-110 bassdrum
> >>> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
> >>>
> >>> perhaps thats the way he's doing this
> >>> I know that in the roland PM 16 this is also possible and also 
layer
> 3
> >>> notes
> >>> ( for chordplaying etc) and pitchbending, modulation etc
> >>> drag YOU have to program it yourself
> >>> good luck and have fun
> >>>
> >>> BERK!
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Th
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by jesper@electronic-obsession.se

To bring this more on topic we can mention the SDS-1 and the lovely "run 
time" which upon re-triggering doesn't necessarily restart the sample but 
starts from the point the run time has reached. I simply love it on longer 
lo-fi stuff. =)

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From: "ken_evans_99" <tycho33@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "


I've used velocity triggering for two sounds from one pad (Roland
PM7??) and an Ensoniq ASR-10....ok, but unreliable, way too twitchy,
and that's only two velocity layers and an '89-ish vinatge sampler.
Some of the early Emax's had velocity layers (from memory - oops,
showing my age) but I think they only had two layers total as opposed
to the Ensoniq 16+/ASR's 8 layers....my brain hurts.  don't think
there was a sampler around pre-'83-ish that could do velocity layers.



--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> OK, you want to duplicate it - then I'm with you... sorry! :)
>
> electronically yours, jesper
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
>
> Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
> split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>
> "Varf\ufffdr har du s\ufffd m\ufffdnga pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 \ufffdr)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...>
> To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 3:04 PM
> Subject: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
>
>
> That explains the moustache !!
> I thought Rob wanted to simulate the same effect
> and this is one way off doing it (imo)
>
> BERK!
>
>
> >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
> >To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> >From: <jesper@...>
> >Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:45:57 +0100
> >Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
> >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >"most samplers" - weren't we talking 1981 here? I still bet on the
stepped
> >
> >sequencer I proposed...
> >
> >electronically yours, jesper
> >- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> >www.electronic-obsession.se
> >
> >Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
> >split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
> >
> >"Varf\ufffdr har du s\ufffd m\ufffdnga pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 \ufffdr)
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Rob" <hogfire80@...>
> >To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:36 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
> >
> >
> >> that would be a very good guess i think!
> >> thank you.
> >>
> >>> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
> >> *LOL*
> >> =;o)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 03.03.2007 um 17:48 schrieb Berk Aarts:
> >>
> >>> In most samplers it's possible to layer sounds
> >>> and they trigger at different velocity levels ( in theory you
can
> >>> trigger
> >>> 127 different samples in this waY)
> >>> perhaps he assigned say 5 different samples ( this is an
example)
> >>> vel 0-30 snare
> >>> vel 31-60 deepsnare
> >>> vel 61-90 rimshot
> >>> vel 90-110 bassdrum
> >>> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
> >>>
> >>> perhaps thats the way he's doing this
> >>> I know that in the roland PM 16 this is also possible and also
layer
> 3
> >>> notes
> >>> ( for chordplaying etc) and pitchbending, modulation etc
> >>> drag YOU have to program it yourself
> >>> good luck and have fun
> >>>
> >>> BERK!
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by michael.buchner@debitel.net

The drumtech changed the sounds by switching the four presets of the snare module. 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jesper@electronic-obsession.se 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "


  "most samplers" - weren't we talking 1981 here? I still bet on the stepped 
  sequencer I proposed...

  electronically yours, jesper
  - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
  www.electronic-obsession.se

  Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
  split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp

  "Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Rob" <hogfire80@...>
  To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

  > that would be a very good guess i think!
  > thank you.
  >
  >> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
  > *LOL*
  > =;o)
  >
  >
  >
  > Am 03.03.2007 um 17:48 schrieb Berk Aarts:
  >
  >> In most samplers it's possible to layer sounds
  >> and they trigger at different velocity levels ( in theory you can
  >> trigger
  >> 127 different samples in this waY)
  >> perhaps he assigned say 5 different samples ( this is an example)
  >> vel 0-30 snare
  >> vel 31-60 deepsnare
  >> vel 61-90 rimshot
  >> vel 90-110 bassdrum
  >> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
  >>
  >> perhaps thats the way he's doing this
  >> I know that in the roland PM 16 this is also possible and also layer 3
  >> notes
  >> ( for chordplaying etc) and pitchbending, modulation etc
  >> drag YOU have to program it yourself
  >> good luck and have fun
  >>
  >> BERK!
  >
  >
  >
  > __________________________________________________________
  > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > Yahoo! Groups Links
  >
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by Rob

sure something possible :o)
is that a guess or do you know that?

stay tuned
robert

Am 04.03.2007 um 17:47 schrieb <michael.buchner@...>:

> The drumtech changed the sounds by switching the four presets of the 
> snare module.


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Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by Berk Aarts

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

sorry for that

BERK!


>-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>From: <michael.buchner@...>
>Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 17:47:29 +0100
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
>Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>The drumtech changed the sounds by switching the four presets of the snare
>module. 
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: jesper@electronic-obsession.se 
>  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>  Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:45 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
>
>
>  "most samplers" - weren't we talking 1981 here? I still bet on the stepped
>
>  sequencer I proposed...
>
>  electronically yours, jesper
>  - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>  www.electronic-obsession.se
>
>  Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan
>  split-EP at www.electronic-obsession.se/label.asp
>
>  "Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Rob" <hogfire80@...>
>  To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>  Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:36 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
>
>  > that would be a very good guess i think!
>  > thank you.
>  >
>  >> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
>  > *LOL*
>  > =;o)
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Am 03.03.2007 um 17:48 schrieb Berk Aarts:
>  >
>  >> In most samplers it's possible to layer sounds
>  >> and they trigger at different velocity levels ( in theory you can
>  >> trigger
>  >> 127 different samples in this waY)
>  >> perhaps he assigned say 5 different samples ( this is an example)
>  >> vel 0-30 snare
>  >> vel 31-60 deepsnare
>  >> vel 61-90 rimshot
>  >> vel 90-110 bassdrum
>  >> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink
>  >>
>  >> perhaps thats the way he's doing this
>  >> I know that in the roland PM 16 this is also possible and also layer
>3
>  >> notes
>  >> ( for chordplaying etc) and pitchbending, modulation etc
>  >> drag YOU have to program it yourself
>  >> good luck and have fun
>  >>
>  >> BERK!
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > __________________________________________________________
>  > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de
>  >
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>  >
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>  >
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by Lars Johansson

Rimshot trigger.

LJ

http://medlem.spray.se/waveterm/LJLab2006/

----- Ursprungligt meddelande ----- 
Från: "Rob" <hogfire80@...>
Till: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Skickat: den 4 mars 2007 20:00
Ämne: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "
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> sure something possible :o)
> is that a guess or do you know that?
> 
> stay tuned
> robert
> 
> Am 04.03.2007 um 17:47 schrieb <michael.buchner@...>:
> 
>> The drumtech changed the sounds by switching the four presets of the 
>> snare module.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
>

Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by Tommy Vernice

I agree with Michael. Very simple.
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From: "michael.buchner@..." <michael.buchner@...>
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2007 8:47:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "









  


    
            The drumtech changed the sounds by switching the four presets of the snare module. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: jesper@electronic- obsession. se 

  To: Simmons_Drums@ yahoogroups. com 

  Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:45 PM

  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "



"most samplers" - weren't we talking 1981 here? I still bet on the stepped 

  sequencer I proposed...



electronically yours, jesper

  - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -

  www.electronic- obsession. se



Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan

  split-EP at www.electronic- obsession. se/label. asp



"Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)



----- Original Message ----- 

  From: "Rob" <hogfire80@yahoo. de>

  To: <Simmons_Drums@ yahoogroups. com>

  Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:36 PM

  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "



> that would be a very good guess i think!

  > thank you.

  >

  >> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink

  > *LOL*

  > =;o)

  >

  >

  >

  > Am 03.03.2007 um 17:48 schrieb Berk Aarts:

  >

  >> In most samplers it's possible to layer sounds

  >> and they trigger at different velocity levels ( in theory you can

  >> trigger

  >> 127 different samples in this waY)

  >> perhaps he assigned say 5 different samples ( this is an example)

  >> vel 0-30 snare

  >> vel 31-60 deepsnare

  >> vel 61-90 rimshot

  >> vel 90-110 bassdrum

  >> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink

  >>

  >> perhaps thats the way he's doing this

  >> I know that in the roland PM 16 this is also possible and also layer 3

  >> notes

  >> ( for chordplaying etc) and pitchbending, modulation etc

  >> drag YOU have to program it yourself

  >> good luck and have fun

  >>

  >> BERK!

  >

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Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "

2007-03-04 by Tommy Vernice

I agree with Michael. Very simple.
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From: "michael.buchner@..." <michael.buchner@...>
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2007 8:47:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "









  


    
            The drumtech changed the sounds by switching the four presets of the snare module. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: jesper@electronic- obsession. se 

  To: Simmons_Drums@ yahoogroups. com 

  Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:45 PM

  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "



"most samplers" - weren't we talking 1981 here? I still bet on the stepped 

  sequencer I proposed...



electronically yours, jesper

  - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -

  www.electronic- obsession. se



Order your own copy of the Machinepop/Imiafan

  split-EP at www.electronic- obsession. se/label. asp



"Varför har du så många pianon?" (Nora Persson, 9 år)



----- Original Message ----- 

  From: "Rob" <hogfire80@yahoo. de>

  To: <Simmons_Drums@ yahoogroups. com>

  Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:36 PM

  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Steve Negus and SAGA " Times Up "



> that would be a very good guess i think!

  > thank you.

  >

  >> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink

  > *LOL*

  > =;o)

  >

  >

  >

  > Am 03.03.2007 um 17:48 schrieb Berk Aarts:

  >

  >> In most samplers it's possible to layer sounds

  >> and they trigger at different velocity levels ( in theory you can

  >> trigger

  >> 127 different samples in this waY)

  >> perhaps he assigned say 5 different samples ( this is an example)

  >> vel 0-30 snare

  >> vel 31-60 deepsnare

  >> vel 61-90 rimshot

  >> vel 90-110 bassdrum

  >> vl 111-127 bliep bliep skwoink

  >>

  >> perhaps thats the way he's doing this

  >> I know that in the roland PM 16 this is also possible and also layer 3

  >> notes

  >> ( for chordplaying etc) and pitchbending, modulation etc

  >> drag YOU have to program it yourself

  >> good luck and have fun

  >>

  >> BERK!

  >

  >

  >

  > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

  > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger. yahoo.de

  >

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  >

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